+Stary Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) ummm... I am puzzled here -I just bought the Yankee Air Pirate Carrier pack 2 (CV-34 Oriskany and F9F) and it has our KAW Team's Bobrock's Panter model included as payware? the LODs are newer that the 2010 ones, from March 2014 (both the plane and cockpit) textures seem updated but not all of them, and if this was with Bobrock's involvement all is fine I just need some clarification please from KAW Team edit: Changed topic title Edited August 23, 2015 by Stary Quote
+whiteknight06604 Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 I think the bobrock sold them the model. I heard something about it a while back but could be mistaken Quote
+Stary Posted August 23, 2015 Author Posted August 23, 2015 ok then all is fine I guess, seems I missed the Bob selled the model part OK< for clarification: I among others catched YAP team on stealing other's works and openly admitting will of piracy (which I have archived!) in the past so yeah I am touchy about them (some RS Phase 4 WIP ships textures still look kind of Silent Hunter 4...) so yeah on the other hand I think the small packs combo products are much better for them than full phases or whatnot 1 Quote
+Stary Posted August 23, 2015 Author Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) plane's ok if you know the Bobrock's F9F-2 we have here it's basically the same model with underwing pylons addition I think; the carrier is one certainly known artificial reef Oriskany so yeah can do for 14 bucks I think edit: Plane's devoted of A2A missions types is the biggest difference I found so far, flies ok for SF2 Edited August 23, 2015 by Stary Quote
Do335 Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) Have done a detailed comparison between the 2 in lodviewer (just to know what i bought). YAP one has an additional cockpit seat while the free one at CA has extra damage nodes. The cockpits show differences with a hexeditor compare, but no visual differences except some textures. Plus free one at CA has a LOD2. So it's all about the Essex CV far as I see. If WhiteboySamurai completes the long hull essex someday korea won't rely on this mod. The essex is pretty hi-def and has adequate data for the flak guns etc so not bad. Downside is no low level LODs. Edited August 23, 2015 by Do335 Quote
+CrazyhorseB34 Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 The boat is really bang on I think hinch did it. The Panther is Bob's i bought the boat! Quote
+Stary Posted August 24, 2015 Author Posted August 24, 2015 yeah I was kind of hoping of different Panther than the one we have -not that it is bad or anything, it's great- but yes, the carrier is the strong point of this pack wish they were selling some of their Rising Sun ships too Quote
Antares81 Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 I'm afraid, there' no future for SF2 NA carrier pack .... Quote
KJakker Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 Stary, I did SF2:NA data files for both the WWII (CV-9) and Korea (CV-34) versions of the the YAP Essex. If you want them let me know. 1 Quote
+Stary Posted August 25, 2015 Author Posted August 25, 2015 sure KJ, maybe post them here as I think more people might find it useful Quote
KJakker Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 Here are the data files and some alternate guns for the Alt2 and Alt3 file variants. I would really like to do another pass on them because I think a number of things could be updated but they should work for now. Just a reminder to everyone you will have to make a collision LOD for use in SF2:NA by copying and renaming the main ship LOD. The names I use in the data files are Essex_1115_COL.LOD and Essex_Korea_COL.LOD. No files other than the NA data files and the additional guns are included as that would be a violation of the YAP licence. NA Data for YAP Essex.7z 1 Quote
+Stratos Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 Thanks for the info about package quality Stary. Quote
+Stary Posted August 28, 2015 Author Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) Stratos having bought from YAP Risung Sun Phase 3 two days ago I must say the carrier packs seem to be much better quality stuff than that edit: worth the carrier (Oriskany) the plane is as I wrote basically the freeware F9F-2 updated here and there BUT with for example wrongly set attachement points so the HolyMoses rockets float under wing pylons and the bombs snik into the wings!!! Something that is also present in Rising Sun 3 planes and something that should have never ever happen! Quality control is non-existent, sadly. It's one of the things that is easiest to spot. Same with RS phase 3 wingtip vortice origin positions oin many a planes etc Edited August 28, 2015 by Stary Quote
+Stratos Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 Can be a problem of YAP being oriented to WOV? I mean there were problems moving the models to SF2, so maybe can be that... or not. Just an idea. In fact those chopper packs look cool, but I'm not sure that will work on SF2 without flaws. Quote
+Coupi Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) Very good information! Many thanks... However, about YAP the products... is it possible to have their templates with the sold packages? Best regards, Edited August 28, 2015 by Coupi Quote
+Stary Posted August 28, 2015 Author Posted August 28, 2015 I honestly have no idea Pierre and yeah I tested Rising Sun phase 3 with WoV (series1) and the issues are still there Quote
+Coupi Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 I honestly have no idea Pierre and yeah I tested Rising Sun phase 3 with WoV (series1) and the issues are still there Ok Stary... I think to begin with the Rising Sun 1 in order to test the Hawk 75N and the P-36A! Quote
+Stary Posted August 28, 2015 Author Posted August 28, 2015 Rising Sun 1 is quite ok, and yeah I bought it for Hawk and P-36 myself lol 1 Quote
+Stratos Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 and yeah I tested Rising Sun phase 3 with WoV (series1) and the issues are still there Then, is not good news. Shame as those choppers sure look cool. Quote
+Stary Posted August 30, 2015 Author Posted August 30, 2015 I'd wouldn't buy any choppers for SF/SF2 even if these were dozen a dime -it's simply not helicopters-friendly environment in my opinion. Sure some are nice adn have quite ok FM but still it's jet-centric engine. Though these helicopters-related statements are still there, buried unused in the inis Quote
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