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F-4E_78 cockpit with pave spike LOS ( line of sight ) indicator and SRI (slant range indicator)

of topic just found this picture showing F-4E´s from the 50th TFW at Shiraz Air Base (Iran) during exercise Cento, 1August 1977 , how time can change , and note there are no AN/ALE-40 on this aircrafts

i was checking pictures of F-4E´s from 1976 , 1977 and 1978 the first pictures of an F-4E with AN/ALE-40 that i found is dated june 1978 , the picture is from the TAM 1978 at RAF Wildenrath note: 68-0507 and 68-0532 with AN/ALE-40 , 68-0529 with out AN/ALE-40 maybe somebody can find some pictures from 1975 , 1976 , 1977 that shows a F-4E with AN/ALE-40 dispenser , i could not find any so far

this are my finds to in the same manual is the " typical " cockpit before the TO changes with out the chaff / flare panels , and that was the reason i ask the question about the AN/ALQ-40 because there are info´s in the net that the first dispenser was mounted in 1974 /1975 so maybe i make 2 cockpits for the 1975 F-4E one with and one with out this panels

it is not only swapping the dispenser from one aircraft to an other , in real life you have to add the wiring to an aircraft including the control panels in the cockpit and that is not something you do on the flight line since i´m building the cockpits for the F-4E i like to know if i add the AN/ALE-40 control panel to the 1975 cockpit or not , based on the flight manuals it is a no , if now somebody has first hand knowledge and tells me that this control panels where installed ( if only on some aircraft ) i can add the panel to the cockpit

good idea

i was curious what the NSN system is telling me as you can see this 3 AN/ALE-40 are registered in 1976 /1978 , did not find any one registered earlier

i´m going true all my manuals to get an answer and i just found this in the TO 1F-4E-2-30 manual , in the first picture is a note showing the different configuration of the AN/ALE-40 dispenser note1 showing that an all chaff configuration is possible and was done all the control panels shown in picture 2 are shown in the second cockpit layout in the flight manual from 1979 ( 1 february 1979 ) the first cockpit layout ( typical ) is not showing any of this panels so how did they use the AN/ALE-40 in 1974 ???? or did it take 5 years until all F-4´s where updated with the dispenser and than finally they added it in the flight manuals ???

i have the information that flares where available from 1978 onward , and only the chaff AN/ALE-40 where added from 1974 on to F-4´s and the first flight manual that i own is the one from 1979 showing the AN/ALE-40 control panel actually there are 2 cockpits shown in that manual , one typical with out the panel and one after TO 1F-4E-588 , TO 1F-4-1056 and TO 1F-4E-614 with this panel so if the AN/ALE-40 ( chaff/flare ) was added in 1974 how was it operated from the cockpit with out the control panel ?

i´m working on some new F-4E cockpits and came across of some AN/ALE-40 info , based on that info did most F-4s get an ALE-40 CHAFF dispenser by 1974 and the FLARE dispenser by 1978 , the AN/ALE-40 control panel in the cockpit is first showing in the 1979 flight manual in SF2 we have the AN/ALE-40 chaff and flare dispenser on the F-4E _75 what would be wrong if my info is correct , it would be interesting to know wehr the chaff only dispenser was mounted on the pylon , on the inner or the outer or on both sides or are this the chaff bundles that was carried in the air brake housing , and how was the chaff deployed given that no AN/ALE-40 control panel was in the cockpit until 1978/1979 i think i have to change that F-4E-75 model AN/ALE-40 control panel in the rear F-4 cockpit

only with good pictures , i can not find close or detail pictures of a ASPIDE missile

i´m not 100% sure but i think you have to use the actual animation slot number and you can not change it by replacing it with an other number , AnimationID=1 you have to change it to the real animation slot of the 3d model there is a way in the cockpit.ini where you can link an animation from the cockpit to the animation of the aircraft model like in the case below for the canopy , the aircraft animation for the canopy is on slot 3 in the cockpit it is on slot 1 [Canopy] Type=EXTERNAL_ANIMATION_LINK NodeName=CanopyFrame01 MovementType=ANIMATION AnimationID=1 ItemNumber=3 if you can do something similar in the data.ini i dont know

do you have the 3ds max file

did you add GunnerCanopy or Canopy2 to the to the data.ini fuselage entry , SystemName[xxx]=GunnerCanopy or Canopy2

link the animation to the landing gear , or in 3ds max move the animation slots to the slot for the landing gear

aahhh ok Thank You

thanks for that link that helped me with an other problem but in the post you mentioned Guru had a grey screen , how did he get it ???

i got the info that the F-4E had a CCT TV with a black gray tv screen and not the black green one we use in SF2 , adding a GreyTvFilter did not do the trick i have now a colored TV screen i need some help here , can somebody tell me how to get the tv screen monochrome ( black gray ) , any help is welcome

testing my new Red Top missile

this missile drives me crazy , i have the dimensions for it from the net , length 3,32 meters ( 10.9 feet ) diameter 0,23 meter ( 9.1 inch ) , so i made a cylinder with exact this dimension an made the missile out of it , than i added details and try to make the skin but i discovered that what ever i made it did not work there was always a mismatch with the pictures i have , so i changed the length of that missile to 3,96 meters and i was able to get everything done , but i like to have the missile with the length mention in the net , so scaled the missile just along the x axis until i got the right measurement with the result that some of the circular openings in the missile body are no longer round , but it is just a bit so i let it oval now Red Top missile , it took a long time to do this one but it is done now

good find yes this one shows the AN/ALE-40 panel in the front and rear cockpit for the F-4D but not for the F-4C and it is not mention from what year this cockpit layout is , but it must be from 1980 or later before that there was no AN/ALE-40 panel int the D cockpits

nope that is a F-4E only manual and yes it shows the AN/ALE-40 control panel , i do have almost everything that is available on flight manuals for the F-4E unfortunately i dont have the late flight manuals for the F-4C/D , but maybe in the future i will get them as well i do have a F-4C/D/E flight manual from 1973 and this one does not show the AN/ALE-40 control panel for all this aircraft , for the F-4C/D we should have a flight manual from 1980 up to 1990 to be sure

mounting the pylons with the AN/ALE-40 is not helping much , you need in the cockpit , front and rear , the AN/ALE-40 control panel and the wiring for it , with out it no chaff and no flares this is the panel in a F-4F rear cockpit there is a F-4C/D flight manual from 1984 - 1990 available at ebay .com , unfortunately they will not ship to germany so i can not buy it , in this manual you should be able to see if there are this control panels or not https://www.ebay.com/itm/221409795156?hash=item338d0d5c54:g:W1AAAOxyeZNTPytq&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoKLirUgBrrwgX44mMW%2BYEGqf3dnuVjbOqUgnWrqZn1dkjevZl%2FcudPuTGTQBZuvND%2FdqtXlZbwblz3PrH%2FWaQTWDjax4vzMx3NaUUCh8hJin7%2BKXj49IFnUvTMgVmcEOftPX8ML%2BQeHqUMfuqfFqxPuacppiBgFr3o2r%2BDWvL6EoNoXwM7yYd0esizV0KgToPajW8mS5HsSzkEr5QZvHxpo%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR7KK35jUYQ

Imperial Iranian Air Force F-4E 1972 cockpit based on the original flight manual radar off , texture not yet final radar on TISEO on AGM-65A selected mirror position corrected

here is the skin without the roundels , and a layer template (PSD) F16CFTGr Template.zip