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*later model Swiss marks added 'winder capabililty, iirc, in the 70s* wrench kevin stein several late model hunters had 'winder rails, but those swiss models also had maverick Capabilty. talk about revamping an old warhorse!

of course history buffs, in 1954 the original spec for what would become the F-4B Phantom 2, called the AH1 called for a quartet of guns similar to the F-100. then as Ceasar said the thinking of the time said guns were obsolete and the specs got changed.

just to be contrary, multiplayer!

edit: while not updated for (quite) a while, this thread will most likely be of some (vairable!) assistance http://combatace.com...hats-available/ shoot me a list of who else actively has sites goin besides here and DAT) and i could do a Gen 2 list. of coursr with links to the original list and the KB thread on updating Gen 1 to 2!

seems the same strategy as Thuds over NVietnam, if your stupid enough to fly infront of the gun........

the japanese are always good for doin some sort of artwork on their birds. more prolific than Luftwaffe special schemes even.

look in the SF1 download section under Cold War aircraft. there is a whole section on the F-84. unless you posted in the Gen 1 forum in which case http://combatace.com/files/file/8775-sf2-f-84g-v12/ that will take care of it all IF you are running GEN 2/SF2.

first your link goes to a bit on Mig21 v F-4E comparison. 2 many factors come into play not just the factory specs of the planes in question. 3 i doubt the maintenece has kept up to keep their birds fully mission capable, many of the pilots are running rather than bombing their own people and if a no fly zone is kicked off, not many of their pilots will care to take off and test the air armada arrayed against them with planes tech and tactics at least a decade newer than what they have. the trouble they may have given the USN in 81(wich still resulted in USN 2 libya 0) was a result of faulty missles and ROE restrictions. when the rematch went down in 89 missles were more reliable and ROE relaxed (think they only had to light ther radars to be considered a threat in 89) so it wetn down smoother for our side. in short any air action over libya would provide them the oppurtunity to get rid of some old warplanes!

if this continues down this path then i shall wish to register a compliant!!

what you dont remember Gordon Browns response when Argentina conducted an airborne invasion of Pristina, Kosovo?

sheesh you finally get your whole own forum and now you wanna play with real planes/skins! nice polish Li-2's tho.

well that is chicago politics. vote and vote often! and gee look who took over. ah well i'll claim the ol' hometown for the Cubs:grin:

god that shows how long i been away from home. didnt even know it had closed down. still remember the 727 landin on it tho, we couldnt what if it back in...... (yeah i know the answer. still want my bluesmobile)

intersesting as i would think not loading them would keep the rails off. as for your skin you might wanna change your decals from white to black. easy to do if you have Gimp or any other program that can look at TGA files.

NIGH! @Wrench, where ya gonna putt Miegs Field? NAS Glenview? Midway? i wont mention the last as that'll make it too obvious! and i still want the bluesmobile for a groundobject! or at least a 61 Ferrari GT 250.

the squadronlist ini controls the units you can pick to fly. however if you change one up without changing the data else where you may mess up a campaign. also many of the planes stock decals (F-4, F-100) use the squadronlist to determine what markings which unit gets. i modify mine all the time due to a thing i do with my Phantoms. matter of fact might hafta do it again due to NF4 patch being released:boredom: originally thought this was SF2 forum , howver it should still apply to Gen1

thats what i meant, not with modding. told you so! @ pureblue nice screenies. reminds me of a article in Int'l airpower review on turkish fast jets a few years back. just need some TuAF T-38s to round out!

you all didnt figure out that it was fake t the parental warning that it contained scenes with burce willis?

no your not!

you mean American airpower will no longer be providing 2000lb fishponds to those in the world who piss us off?

i'm sorry i didnt know that a dead soldier was political bulls**t. if mohmar was so great and powerful maybe he would have used his warplanes against our fielded forces, not bombed a disco frequented by American Servicemen. back then our political leadership believed that you yank the American tiger by the tail, you should be prepared to deal with the teeth!

EricJ thats cool with the dogfight only. woulda like to do a rematch on Eagle v 12 Hind, esp since i forgot some carry aphids and got my tail shot off after expending all my missles and closin in for guns! hmm maybe wingmen are useful sometimes......

damn and i thought the super glue commercials were takin it to a new level! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVNtSjONdSw

ok went back and read EricJ's posts on Eagle v Phantom combat. looking historically at it, by the time the Eagle was on the scene most users were switching ot bombtruck strike role for the Phantom. against a similar generation of jets the Phantoms 2 J-79's allowed it to fight vertical where its thrust let it get up there faster than the oppostion and the wieght allowed it to get down below faster. however the Eagles much higher thrust to weight ratio negates this advantage the F-4 held. going against say later model Mig 23 or 29 on late 80s strike missions, i will point my nose at the threat long enough to loose on of my 3 sparrows at em, then stay around 300 ft and 600kts. red air dont seem to get down low. i woulld think this could work against the eagle. matter of fact similar tactic was discussed in the book The Warbirds, tho F-4E v Mirage 2000. course much of my flying tends towards strike missions or old school 100 divisions of tanks in the fulda gap CAS. when i feel like a2a action i either get the F-80 or Spitfire cranked up or have an easy day and club baby seals in my Eagle or Tomcat. is this strictly restricted to dogfighting or could other scenarios be discussed (ie Phantom inbound to put ordinance on runway intercepted by Mig23, or Eagle intercepting Hinds)