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yes, that is exactly what i mean about rear gunners being too accurate, if his aircraft is moving about ( and even in level flight it wouldnt be a really steady gun platform ) and taking evasive action, the poor old observer worked really hard to try and get a bead on what he was shooting at , even during WWII the massed guns of the B17's and B24's had little effect on incoming german fighters, yes of course they did get kills, but not that many !!! The drone was a 10 foot wingspan job, not moving terribly fast either, about 100 mph I would imagine, to simulate a helicopter more than a jet, so around the same sort of speeds a WWI aircraft would be moving at !! hard to hit trust me !!....with AAA artillery though it is a different matter, as the blast fro a near miss would really spoil a pilots day !! I am not trying to say that ground base MG's were ineffective, just that they were not a s accurate as prrtrayed in FE.....this buggers must have laser targeting, and imperial storm troopers shooting them hahahahahaha We were taught that the principle of AAA it is the aim of it to distract and discourage the enemy Aircraft from the target, any kills scored are a bonus, however the Germans had great success with 20 mm and 30 mm light flak, as they used it in large area deployments, but those things had a high rate of fire, explosive amunition and usually 4 barrels !!! To further illustrate my point ( and sorry I am going on a bit ) if you watch news reel of kamakaze attacks on US shipping, not the amount of AAA in the air at any one time it takes a hell of a lot of firepower even to knock down one determined enemy So to summarise, please dont anyone jump on me and say I am dissing the AAA I am just saying it is good actually.....just a little too good especially the mg's !! the actuall Archie is probably modelled quite correctly, however to get back to the original point ( 'cos I wandered off a bit, typical of me trangressin' ) the AAA artillery is a little too easy to kill, but like someone has already said, the crew of said Archibold gun would have been exposed and vunerable, so maybe ocjar was correct by saying use your imagination when it come to strafing guns Shutting up now, I can hear all the zzzzzzzzzzz's coming out of the site hahahaha

ohhh yeah...those airfield defence mg's are a little nasty to be sure, a little too accurate though in my opinion, I have done anti aircraft shoots with a machine gun ( a GPMG ) which fires a lot quicker than those old lewis and vickers did, and trust me it isnt easy to score hits , and certainly not as effective as those AI Mg's either last time I did an anti aircraft shoot we had 6 GPMG's on the firing line, with a radio controlled drone target, the standard rate of fire for AA shoots is 50 round bursts.......from 6 guns.........at 1000 - 1200 rpm.......and we were all highly trained and experienced gunners too.....errrrr we didnt hit the drone once in three passes !!! so maybe just maybe those AAA mg's at airfields need to be less accurate.....as do rear gunners in 2 seaters Far far too accurate in my opinion ( speaking as a machine gunner ) I know that rear gunners had a good kill ratio, however not that good !!! food for thought maybe guys ?

hmmmm yes that is an idea, probably soemting along the lines of what Grins is in the middle of..and I agree about the inconsistancies too !!

Cheers ocjar !! that did it !!!...easy when you know how eh !! thank you mate

I was sat right on the tail of the fokker, just undeneath his enpenage, was there following to sod about for ages too, so I would estimate within brick throwing distance !!! but I shall try your change to the AI data too and see what happens

Yes Ocjar that is very true, but even so it is too easy to kill em, I have taken out Archie batteries with one short burst before now, and in reality I dont believe the pilots of the day would have attempted it, as it stands at the moment the tepmtation to kill the annoying buggers is too great lol lol lol

hmmmmmmmm, actually I have tried it both ways, the default of the Gunbus doesnt have the _gunner tag, so I added it....still no joy.....will play around with it again tomorrow, also see if there are any other suggestions as well as your most excellent one for which I thank you

Hello fellow Pilots, has anyone else experienced the non firing gunner ? particularly in pushers, I flew a couple of sorties in a Gunbus today, and even though I was sat on the tail of a Fokker for what seemed like forever, my observer refused to fire, even at point blank range, I havent tries out the FE2 yet or some of the Farmans with front gunners, but certainly on the Gunbus , there would appear to be a particular lack of moral fibre from the prune blocking my view.....any suggesttions oh esteemed aviators ?

Yeah i totally agree, besides which taking on AAA with a twin vickers or Spandau would surley in real life be tantamount to suicide, taking out the crews however would stop those bounders shooting at the jolly old crate eh wot !! most ungenlemanly way of fighting a war old chap !!!.......but seriously, .303 ammo wouldnt do a lot of damage to an archie, and I would imagine the pilots would avoid them like the plague, so yes young master Grinseed please get the mod done to the guns mate :drinks:http://

This is typical SNAFU, if you look back at the history of our Armed Forces, all the way back to even as far as the Crimean War, if not before, consecutive penny pinching governments have shafted our fighting forces, they penny pinch, and make ill advised descisions. I think that HMG should all ( every man and woman jack of 'em ) be bundled into the back of a couple of Herc's, and flown out to Afganistan, and get stuck out on a 6 month deployment out there, then maybe....ands only maybe, will they get an idea, of what our guys and gals need on the frontline. hardly any of our M.P.'s have served in the Forces, and they havent got a damn clue, but then, they dont have a clue what it is like to be a " normal " peasant do they ? The Harrier, is a superlative airframe, so good in fact that we sold it to our friends and allies the Americans, who developed it even further ( using British Aerospace engineers ) From what I understand the US Marines love 'em, hell I love 'em, I worked with them enough, being ex RAF Regiment, and deploying with them on many occasions. Without the Harrier we would have been screwed royally in the Falklands ( hmmmm lets hope that little bushfire war never kicks off again eh ? ) But noooooooo....lets bin a perfectly good Aircraft, and buy errrrrrrr....I know....Typhoons !!! because we need interceptors dont we !! because the Tornado isnt any use is it ?.......just like the F15 isnt ????.....sorry being sarcastic !!! And finally..who had the wonderful bloody idea of sharing CV's with the French ? Yeah, that's gonna work really well isnt it ? Since when did the UK and France EVER see eye to eye on anything ? PER ARDUA

oops....it didnt come up for me when I came on here last night for some reason...see what you mean now lol

Sorry dude, but that is WWII kit, looks like home defence, or maybe airfield defence ordinance to me, not quite sure what the gun is, but it looks like some kind of Oerlikon deritive, maybe a 30mm looks too big for a 20mm Yep,it's a c.o.w gun, WWI vintage, but these things werent around until after the war

Wow !! what an amazing find, brilliant photos too....is there going to be a recovery attempt I wonder

thank you very much, a lot of hard work gone in there mate !!!

What about Bleriots ?.......sorry....dont beat me to death with the nearest blunt object....just throwing my spoon into the soup bow so to speak........( Buggers off very quickly and hides )

Good on ya Grin !!!

Well done Grin mate , much obliged to yer sir !!!

yea !!! well done matey, good on ya !!!

cheers buddy...another crate that is sorely needed

yay...at last, sorted it out, thanks guys, what it was, it looks like I had 2 WeaponData files, one that I had run trough the weapons editor, and sved as is the norm, what I had failed to realise was that the one in the cat file, was at odds with mine, I assumed that my file would automaticaly overwrite the one in the cat file, so I re extracted it, and used it as the master file and merged my file in to it, and it is all correct now, bloody silly oversight on my behalf, but hey with your wonderful help, I have learnt something , cant thank you all enough !!!!

no I did exactly as you said on the tin, I am going to try a couple of other things first, and I shall get back to you mate

Now if ya could just apply those 2 lovely lewis guns to the Brisfit......oops sorry, goin' on about it again

Dude...it is FE1, and I am not accusing anyone of anything at all, I stated....in very good, and very clear English, that I had ALREADY looked at the forums that you so kindly mentioned, and that I CANNOT find anything pertinent in those afore mentioned forums, anyway, this is ridiculous, I refuse to enter into a silly argument about whether or not anyone read posts properly or not, it is counter productive, and making comments such as this do not solve the issue in question, so if you have a reasonable suggestion to give me, then I shall be most appreciative.So Mr Red, and Mr Heck, if you are quite finished, please feel free to offer constructive suggestions, and let us get back to the issue in hand. Thank you !!!

Sarcasm ???....I wasnt actually being sarcastic, only pointing out that sometimes people dont actually read the post, and they make comments that are not helpful in the slightest, as for me refering to sarcasm, I was actually joking, igf you read the post correctly, taking the mickey out of myself actually......so I am sorry to say this, but your comment is a bit out of order, enough said !!!