MoonGoose

yeh delta wings should have a lot of drag due to lift and drag due to AoA... like MiG-21 and Mirages.

Well after 250 manual pages and several hours flying MiG-29S and various Su-27, i still get beaten hard by Falcons and Vipers... their RCS give me hard times in detecting em from range... i can evade AIM-120s most of the times but they do the same with my payload... and more than one time i got scared to hell when they pop in my six without ever gettin a blip on the RWR. but doing a stealth attack with radar off the whole mission using only the IRST sensors and infrared missiles is priceless. terrains are really good, clouds too, sounds amazing but afterburner effect sucks. it's really worth the price... best modern fighter sim ever.. there is a nice mission builder but lacks the wonderful random mission generator that thirdwire sims have. default missions aren't so bad... the best one is the CAP over the caucasus mountains... lot of hideaways for hit and run. well i really can't spot F-16 on radar .. is damn hard..

seems i fixed the fps somehow.. i had the CPU at 333FSB... think there is a hole/bug in that specific NB strap. So i raised from 333 to 360FSB (clock 3240MhZ) and seems much better... now im in 1680x1050 with high details (not maxed) and runs smooth even in a ramp start with lot of traffic. i'm ordering other 2Gb RAM because sometimes swap happens and i hate that. Anyway luckly managed to get a lock on a F-16 from 35 miles... so a fast climb to 30k feet to have a longer firing range with the R-77, fired that and got that kill... the second F-16 shot me a pair of amraams and luckly evaded em with a 3-9, but i got killed when that falcon caught me in gun range dogfight (where i do the worst of me ). but there are replacement afterburner effects? the stock one just suck

the thing i really love about FC2 is the challenging AI and how good the russian birds are done.. EDIT: i'm startin to know how to better use the sensors... i just love the stealth kills with IRST + R27ET combo... but i still suck in dogfight. need to study some dogfight tactic maneuvering. only thing is that i need something better than mine E6600@3200, HD 4870 and 2Gb DDR2. FPS drops a lot near ground combat zones.

Why so upset? there are many ways to say something. well if i was you, i should have checkd the FM of the MiG-15 verifying the engine thrust, and to see if lowering lift drag and zero lift drag or checking control surfaces to see where the problem is. Just that some flight models are based on normal difficulty setting and others in hard setting.. so they must be finely tuned.

uhm i play with all realism HARD (apart from fuel consumption, because AI never run out of fuel) and enemy skill level HARD. after 3 years of Thirdwire sims, playing over and over with a PS2 gamepad finely axis tuned, the game is rather easy. - the AI keep shooting sparrows from full range (and then is easy to dive to 100 feets and break the lock). - the AI got a nice accuracy with guns head-on. - the AI keeps firing IRMs not in a good firing AoA. - the AI strafing strategies and evading maneuvers are all the same two three types everytime (they start going climb/dive, or breakturns, and high climb escaping runs) - wingmans are generally underskilled (unless you pick some 90-100-130 skilled in roster) - wingmans have a good kill ratio with medium range SAHMs or AHMs but they miss lot of IRMs my typical debrief in a mid '90 decade escort mission flying MF MiG-29 fulcrum-C (with R-77 and R-73) often fighting F-15D and F-16C is 6-9 kills for me (50% missile PK so 2-3 kills and 3-4 gun kills) when outnumbered i usually run HOT while ordering my flight to break and engage air, then i draw fire from dumb AI shooting some R-77 here and there (that keeps em painting me and firing) and after evading some missiles (with low level fly trick) i try to flank em or go among em while my wingmans are free to lock. hunting with f-15 is easier too... but i really get kicked good when i try to ride those flying trucks you call F-4E well anyway AI gun skill is really good (wingmens gun skill sucks tho)

X3 terran conflict is a really good mix of combat, trade, faction relation, sandbox game. really REALLY a must have. "Frack" from Battlestar Galactica?

Guys, i did a lot of testing this morning on the MiG-23ML. i found that with the last updated SF2 version, the flight model is too much agile and forgiving... and i didn't fly in normal or easy flight model. then i edited the FM using all Nele's old accurate maths, drags, lifts and angles... and i see that yes, the FM is awesome, you can feel the difficulty, but seems too much like a heavy bomber rather an agile lightweight interceptor. So i tried to take the best of both FMs, combining the two, in a more "real feel" interceptor WHILE mantaining ALL nele's control surface angles, blowback speeds, control rates. For instance, nele used to set the stabilizers with a maxcontrol speed, to negate their control when the aircraft go over 400 knots. Though i kept fuel consumption in between updated version and nele's version... so we can use it with hard fuel consumption setting. this way you have at least the fuel to cruise a 130 miles intercept, a brief and fast dogfight, then return home in cruise speed, or if you need to run you HAVE to stay high altitude to gain decent fuel economy. i also used nele's internal fuel capacity to reflect the higher fuel consumption, and to have lesser agility with full tanks and more agility with half fuel. i kept some Cd0 factors in between the two versions, because now the MAX speed you can achieve is: - Clean load: only fuel, no weapons: MACH 2.08 at 11.000 meters (36.000 feet) - Combat load: fuel, ext tank, 4x missiles: MACH 1.67 at 11.000 meters (36.000 feet) also, to reach at least MACH 2.0 you need really a LOT of time and fuel... so you can't go mach 2 around. you only need to run that fast (if the fuel tank agree with you) when you desperating running away from bandits with no more weapons or reinforcements. Also the aircraft is in general agile, while is less forgiving. Random pulls will not give you advantage.. more mind work is essential. to cut short: - less agility than the last FM but more agility than nele's FM. - retained nele's radar data. - retained all nele's control surfaces, also swing-wing angles, control rates, flap angles, etc. - plane more unforgiving, stall is a real danger. - nele's fuel amount, increased fuel consumption, nele's exhaust temps, nele's engine inertia when throttling up/down. - nele's weapon stations max load, changed tank to Tank790_MiG23. - less drag than last FM, more drag than nele's FM. err... i can't upload files other than text, so i'll write the whole FM in code snippet here. 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FormationSpeedForPosition=0.7 FormationSpeedForRate=0.6 [RocketAttackAI] RollInRange=8500.0 RollInAlt=1450.0 PullOutRange=1400.0 PullOutAlt=250.0 ReleaseRange=2000.0 SecondPassRange=5000.0 SecondPassAlt=800.0 ReleaseCount=16 ReleaseInterval=0.08 AimPitchOffset=0.6 [strafeAI] RollInRange=6000.0 RollInAlt=1500.0 PullOutRange=800.0 PullOutAlt=200.0 ReleaseRange=1300.0 SecondPassRange=4500.0 SecondPassAlt=1100.0 ReleaseInterval=1.0 AimPitchOffset=-0.3 [DetectSystem] RadarName=Sapfir-23ML RadarType=AIR_INTERCEPT RangeUnit=KM RadarAzimuthLimit=60 RadarElevationLimit=30 RadarSearchTime=1.33 RadarSearchRange=75.0 RadarSearchStrength=55 RadarTrackTime=5.0 RadarTrackRange=55.0 RadarTrackStrength=40 DopplerLookdown=TRUE VisualBlindArc=5,6,7 VisualRestrictedArc=4L,8L MaxVisibleDistance=7400.0 HasRWR=TRUE [sound] EngineSoundName=MiG23Engine AfterburnerSoundName=JetBurner DamagedEngineSoundName= FlapsSoundName=Flaps AirbrakesSoundName=Airbrakes GearsSoundName=Gear [AircraftData] EmptyMass=10230.00 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XacMachTableDeltaX=0.40 XacMachTableStartX=0.00 XacMachTableData=-0.533,-0.555,-0.614,-0.880,-1.052 CheckStall=TRUE CLmax=0.4288 //AlphaStall=20.97 //AlphaMax=25.62 //AlphaDepart=30.29 //StallMoment=0.0 //Ymac=3.70 AlphaStall=21.57 AlphaMax=22.62 AlphaDepart=23.79 StallMoment=0.01 Ymac=2.857 VariableGeometry=TRUE MinExtentPosition= 5.88,-2.83,-0.68 MaxExtentPosition= 4.04,-0.19,-0.44 CollisionPoint[001]= 5.88,-1.69,-0.37 CollisionPoint[002]= 5.88,-3.02,-0.37 //HasVortexEmitter=TRUE //VortexEmitterName=WingtipVortexEmitter //VortexPosition=5.84,-1.75,-0.34 //VortexG=2.5 SystemName[001]=RightFlap SystemName[002]=RightPositionLight SystemName[003]=RightSlat SystemName[004]=RightOuterFlap [VertTail] ParentComponentName=Fuselage ModelNodeName=vertical_stabilizer DestroyedNodeName= ShowFromCockpit=TRUE DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE DamageRating=DESTROYED MassFraction=0.039 HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE //CD0=0.0020 CD0=0.0010 Cyb=-0.4752 Cyp=0.0330 Cyr=0.4729 Clb=0.0095 Clp=-0.0007 Clr=-0.0095 Cnb=0.2365 Cnp=-0.0164 Cnr=-1.6592 CD0MachTableNumData=7 CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.40 CD0MachTableStartX=0.00 CD0MachTableData=1.844,1.000,1.016,2.396,2.360,2.223,2.133 ClbAlphaTableNumData=15 ClbAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClbAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClbAlphaTableData=-41.143,-33.793,-26.615,-19.577,-12.660,-5.847,-2.471,-0.737,1.000,2.732,4.451,6.148,7.816,9.445,11.028 ClpAlphaTableNumData=15 ClpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClpAlphaTableData=82.281,62.462,44.830,29.739,17.492,8.338,2.465,0.000,1.000,5.457,13.294,24.371,38.481,55.360,74.691 ClrAlphaTableNumData=15 ClrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClrAlphaTableData=-10.719,-9.732,-8.556,-7.213,-5.730,-4.135,-2.460,-0.737,1.000,2.718,4.383,5.963,7.426,8.745,9.894 CnbAlphaTableNumData=15 CnbAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CnbAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CnbAlphaTableData=0.869,0.902,0.930,0.953,0.972,0.987,0.996,1.000,1.000,0.995,0.985,0.970,0.950,0.926,0.897 CnpAlphaTableNumData=15 CnpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CnpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CnpAlphaTableData=-5.802,-5.220,-4.531,-3.748,-2.886,-1.962,-0.994,0.000,1.000,1.987,2.941,3.844,4.678,5.427,6.077 CnrAlphaTableNumData=15 CnrAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CnrAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CnrAlphaTableData=0.159,0.408,0.623,0.720,0.807,0.884,0.951,1.006,1.000,0.982,0.902,0.812,0.711,0.473,0.159 MinExtentPosition= -0.10,-7.36,0.95 MaxExtentPosition= 0.10,-3.97,2.64 CollisionPoint[001]= 0.00,-7.45,2.64 CollisionPoint[002]= 0.00,-6.02,2.67 SystemName[001]=Rudder SystemName[002]=TailLight [LeftStab] ParentComponentName=Fuselage ModelNodeName=Left_Elevator DestroyedNodeName= ShowFromCockpit=TRUE DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE DamageRating=DISABLED MassFraction=0.006 HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE LiftSurface=TRUE CL0=-0.0068 CLa=0.1685 CD0=0.0004 Cmq=-1.7825 Cmad=-0.8818 Cyb=-0.0109 Clp=-0.0025 Cnb=0.0055 CL0MachTableNumData=5 CL0MachTableDeltaX=0.40 CL0MachTableStartX=0.00 CL0MachTableData=0.986,1.000,1.017,1.010,0.851 CLaMachTableNumData=5 CLaMachTableDeltaX=0.40 CLaMachTableStartX=0.00 CLaMachTableData=1.001,1.000,0.979,0.910,0.938 CD0MachTableNumData=5 CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.40 CD0MachTableStartX=0.00 CD0MachTableData=1.825,1.000,1.028,2.494,2.773 CmqMachTableNumData=5 CmqMachTableDeltaX=0.40 CmqMachTableStartX=0.00 CmqMachTableData=0.971,1.000,1.107,1.261,0.873 ClpAlphaTableNumData=15 ClpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClpAlphaTableData=1.474,1.361,1.264,1.182,1.115,1.063,1.027,1.006,1.000,1.009,1.034,1.074,1.129,1.200,1.285 XacMachTableNumData=5 XacMachTableDeltaX=0.40 XacMachTableStartX=0.00 XacMachTableData=-5.756,-5.764,-5.785,-6.117,-6.236 Ymac=-0.90 MovingSurface=TRUE ControlSystemID=1 MinExtentPosition= -2.54,-7.35,-0.22 MaxExtentPosition= -0.19,-5.37, 0.16 CollisionPoint[001]=-2.54,-6.77,-0.55 CollisionPoint[002]=-2.54,-7.45,-0.55 DummyComponent=TRUE SystemName[001]=LeftStabilizer SystemName[002]=LeftAileron [RightStab] ParentComponentName=Fuselage ModelNodeName=Right_Elevator DestroyedNodeName= ShowFromCockpit=TRUE DetachWhenDestroyed=TRUE DamageRating=DISABLED MassFraction=0.006 HasAeroCoefficients=TRUE LiftSurface=TRUE CL0=-0.0068 CLa=0.1685 CD0=0.0004 Cmq=-1.7825 Cmad=-0.8818 Cyb=-0.0109 Clp=-0.0025 Cnb=0.0055 CL0MachTableNumData=5 CL0MachTableDeltaX=0.40 CL0MachTableStartX=0.00 CL0MachTableData=0.986,1.000,1.017,1.010,0.851 CLaMachTableNumData=5 CLaMachTableDeltaX=0.40 CLaMachTableStartX=0.00 CLaMachTableData=1.001,1.000,0.979,0.910,0.938 CD0MachTableNumData=5 CD0MachTableDeltaX=0.40 CD0MachTableStartX=0.00 CD0MachTableData=1.825,1.000,1.028,2.494,2.773 CmqMachTableNumData=5 CmqMachTableDeltaX=0.40 CmqMachTableStartX=0.00 CmqMachTableData=0.971,1.000,1.107,1.261,0.873 ClpAlphaTableNumData=15 ClpAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 ClpAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 ClpAlphaTableData=1.474,1.361,1.264,1.182,1.115,1.063,1.027,1.006,1.000,1.009,1.034,1.074,1.129,1.200,1.285 XacMachTableNumData=5 XacMachTableDeltaX=0.40 XacMachTableStartX=0.00 XacMachTableData=-5.756,-5.764,-5.785,-6.117,-6.236 Ymac=0.90 MovingSurface=TRUE ControlSystemID=1 MinExtentPosition= 2.54,-7.35,-0.22 MaxExtentPosition= 0.19,-5.37, 0.16 CollisionPoint[001]= 2.54,-6.77,-0.55 CollisionPoint[002]= 2.54,-7.45,-0.55 DummyComponent=TRUE SystemName[001]=RightStabilizer SystemName[002]=RightAileron [RearFuselage] ParentComponentName=Fuselage ModelNodeName=FuselageRear ShowFromCockpit=TRUE DetachWhenDestroyed=FALSE DamageRating=DISABLED MassFraction=0.00 // Crew --------------------------------------------------------- [Pilot] SystemType=PILOT_COCKPIT PilotModelName=PVOpilot Position=0.0,3.80,0.38 SeatModelName=seat_f-100 SeatPosition=0.00,3.70,-0.05 MinExtentPosition=-0.25, 0.72, 0.65 MaxExtentPosition= 0.25, 1.66, 1.80 CanopyNodeName=CanopyFrame HasArmor=TRUE ArmorMaterial=GLASS Armor[FRONT].Thickness=20 // Engines --------------------------------------------------------- [Engine] ReferenceName=Soyuz/Khachaturov R-35F-300 SystemType=JET_ENGINE InputName=THROTTLE_CONTROL EngineID=1 HasAfterburner=TRUE NumAfterburnerStages=4 SLThrustDry=83850.00 SLThrustWet=127490.00 ThrustAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 ThrustPosition=0.00,-2.50,0.00 ThrottleRate=0.25 NozzleAnimationID=10 IdleThrottle=0.10 IdleRPM=0.44 IdleNozzle=0.90 CruiseThrottle=0.30 CruiseRPM=0.61 CruiseNozzle=0.25 MilThrottle=0.55 MilRPM=0.67 MilNozzle=0.25 MaxThrottle=0.78 MaxRPM=1.00 MaxNozzle=0.25 FullABThrottle=1.12 FullABRPM=1.00 FullABNozzle=0.90 AltitudeTableNumData=10 AltitudeTableDeltaX=3048.0 AltitudeTableStartX=0.0 AltitudeTableData=1.000,0.842,0.666,0.521,0.400,0.302,0.216,0.154,0.110,0.000 DryMachTableNumData=4 DryMachTableDeltaX=0.4 DryMachTableStartX=0.0 DryMachTableData=1.000,0.980,1.172,0.000 WetMachTableNumData=6 WetMachTableDeltaX=0.4 WetMachTableStartX=0.0 WetMachTableData=1.000,0.991,1.207,1.683,2.159,2.635 TSFCM0=0.95 TSFCM1=1.36 AfterburnerTSFC=1.960 MinFuelFlow=0.01 MomentOfInertia=-0.05 ExhaustEmitterName=CleanExhaustEmitter ExhaustEffectSize=1.0 ExhaustPosition=0.0,-7.30,-0.256 AfterburnerEmitterName=Mig_AB AfterburnerEffectSize=0.95 FireSuppression=TRUE MinExtentPosition=-0.55,-6.90,-0.20 MaxExtentPosition= 0.55,-0.10, 0.65 FireSuppression=TRUE GasTempMaxRPM=1170.0 GasTempIdleRPM=450.0 GasTempChangeRate=13.0 OverheatTemp=1300.0 DamageTempDelta=300.0 OilPressMaxRPM=35.0 OilPressIdleRPM=55.0 OilPressChangeRate=0.5 LowOilPress=12.0 LowOilTempDelta=400.0 // Control Surfaces --------------------------------------------------------- [LeftFlap] SystemType=HIGHLIFT_DEVICE CLiftdc=0.080 CDdc=0.0227 Cmdc=-0.00167 DeltaStallAlpha=-2.44 AreaRatio=0.982 DeploymentMethod=MANUAL_WITH_BLOWBACK Setting[1].Angle=25.0 Setting[1].DeployValue=113.5 Setting[1].RetractValue=115.9 Setting[2].Angle=50.0 Setting[2].DeployValue=113.5 Setting[2].RetractValue=115.9 MaxDeflection=50.0 MinDeflection=0.0 ControlRate=0.2 ModelNodeName=LeftWingFlap ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE BlowbackSpeed=130.00 [RightFlap] SystemType=HIGHLIFT_DEVICE CLiftdc=0.080 CDdc=0.0227 Cmdc=-0.00167 DeltaStallAlpha=-2.44 AreaRatio=0.982 DeploymentMethod=MANUAL_WITH_BLOWBACK Setting[1].Angle=25.0 Setting[1].DeployValue=113.5 Setting[1].RetractValue=115.9 Setting[2].Angle=50.0 Setting[2].DeployValue=113.5 Setting[2].RetractValue=115.9 MaxDeflection=50.0 MinDeflection=0.0 ControlRate=0.2 ModelNodeName=RightWingFlap BlowbackSpeed=130.00 [LeftInnerFlap] SystemType=HIGHLIFT_DEVICE CLiftdc=0.080 CDdc=0.0227 Cmdc=-0.00167 DeltaStallAlpha=-2.44 AreaRatio=0.982 DeploymentMethod=MANUAL_WITH_BLOWBACK Setting[1].Angle=25.0 Setting[1].DeployValue=113.5 Setting[1].RetractValue=115.9 Setting[2].Angle=50.0 Setting[2].DeployValue=113.5 Setting[2].RetractValue=115.9 MaxDeflection=50.0 MinDeflection=0.0 ControlRate=0.2 ModelNodeName=LeftWingFlapInner ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE BlowbackSpeed=130.00 [RightInnerFlap] SystemType=HIGHLIFT_DEVICE CLiftdc=0.080 CDdc=0.0227 Cmdc=-0.00167 DeltaStallAlpha=-2.44 AreaRatio=0.982 DeploymentMethod=MANUAL_WITH_BLOWBACK Setting[1].Angle=25.0 Setting[1].DeployValue=113.5 Setting[1].RetractValue=115.9 Setting[2].Angle=50.0 Setting[2].DeployValue=113.5 Setting[2].RetractValue=115.9 MaxDeflection=50.0 MinDeflection=0.0 ControlRate=0.2 ModelNodeName=RightWingFlapInner BlowbackSpeed=130.00 [LeftOuterFlap] SystemType=HIGHLIFT_DEVICE CLiftdc=0.080 CDdc=0.0227 Cmdc=-0.00167 DeltaStallAlpha=-2.44 AreaRatio=0.982 DeploymentMethod=MANUAL_WITH_BLOWBACK Setting[1].Angle=25.0 Setting[1].DeployValue=113.5 Setting[1].RetractValue=115.9 Setting[2].Angle=50.0 Setting[2].DeployValue=113.5 Setting[2].RetractValue=115.9 MaxDeflection=50.0 MinDeflection=0.0 ControlRate=0.2 ModelNodeName=LeftWingFlapOuter ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE BlowbackSpeed=130.00 [RightOuterFlap] SystemType=HIGHLIFT_DEVICE CLiftdc=0.080 CDdc=0.0227 Cmdc=-0.00167 DeltaStallAlpha=-2.44 AreaRatio=0.982 DeploymentMethod=MANUAL_WITH_BLOWBACK Setting[1].Angle=25.0 Setting[1].DeployValue=113.5 Setting[1].RetractValue=115.9 Setting[2].Angle=50.0 Setting[2].DeployValue=113.5 Setting[2].RetractValue=115.9 MaxDeflection=50.0 MinDeflection=0.0 ControlRate=0.2 ModelNodeName=RightWingFlapOuter BlowbackSpeed=130.00 [LeftSpoiler] SystemType=CONTROL_SURFACE InputName=ROLL_CONTROL MaxDeflection=0.0 MinDeflection=-60.0 CDdc=0.0096 Cldc=0.0126 Cndc=-0.0004 CldcAlphaTableNumData=15 CldcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CldcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CldcAlphaTableData=0.415,0.877,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,0.877,0.415 CndcAlphaTableNumData=15 CndcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CndcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CndcAlphaTableData=1.432,1.360,1.288,1.216,1.144,1.072,1.000,0.928,1.000,1.072,1.144,1.216,1.288,1.360,1.432 ControlRate=2.5 MaxControlSpeed=245.00 BlowbackSpeed=250.00 ModelNodeName=LeftSpoiler ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE [RightSpoiler] SystemType=CONTROL_SURFACE InputName=ROLL_CONTROL MaxDeflection=60.0 MinDeflection=-0.0 CDdc=0.0096 Cldc=0.0126 Cndc=-0.0004 CldcAlphaTableNumData=15 CldcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CldcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CldcAlphaTableData=0.415,0.877,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,0.877,0.415 CndcAlphaTableNumData=15 CndcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CndcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CndcAlphaTableData=1.432,1.360,1.288,1.216,1.144,1.072,1.000,0.928,1.000,1.072,1.144,1.216,1.288,1.360,1.432 ControlRate=2.5 MaxControlSpeed=245.00 BlowbackSpeed=250.00 ModelNodeName=rightspoiler ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE [LeftOuterSpoiler] SystemType=CONTROL_SURFACE InputName=ROLL_CONTROL MaxDeflection=0.0 MinDeflection=-45.0 CDdc=0.0096 Cldc=0.0126 Cndc=-0.0004 CldcAlphaTableNumData=15 CldcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CldcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CldcAlphaTableData=0.415,0.877,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,0.877,0.415 CndcAlphaTableNumData=15 CndcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CndcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CndcAlphaTableData=1.432,1.360,1.288,1.216,1.144,1.072,1.000,0.928,1.000,1.072,1.144,1.216,1.288,1.360,1.432 ControlRate=2.5 MaxControlSpeed=245.00 BlowbackSpeed=250.00 ModelNodeName=LeftOuterSpoiler ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE [RightOuterSpoiler] SystemType=CONTROL_SURFACE InputName=ROLL_CONTROL MaxDeflection=45.0 MinDeflection=-0.0 CDdc=0.0096 Cldc=0.0126 Cndc=-0.0004 CldcAlphaTableNumData=15 CldcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CldcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CldcAlphaTableData=0.415,0.877,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,0.877,0.415 CndcAlphaTableNumData=15 CndcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CndcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CndcAlphaTableData=1.432,1.360,1.288,1.216,1.144,1.072,1.000,0.928,1.000,1.072,1.144,1.216,1.288,1.360,1.432 ControlRate=2.5 MaxControlSpeed=245.00 BlowbackSpeed=250.00 ModelNodeName=rightouterspoiler ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE [LeftStabilizer] SystemType=CONTROL_SURFACE InputName=PITCH_CONTROL MovingSurface=TRUE //MaxDeflection=16.0 //MinDeflection=-24.0 //ControlRate=2.0 MaxDeflection=8.5 MinDeflection=-24.5 ControlRate=0.88 MaxControlSpeed=208.33 ModelNodeName=Left_Elevator ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE ControlSystemID=1 [RightStabilizer] SystemType=CONTROL_SURFACE InputName=PITCH_CONTROL MovingSurface=TRUE //MaxDeflection=16.0 //MinDeflection=-24.0 //ControlRate=2.0 MaxDeflection=8.5 MinDeflection=-24.5 ControlRate=0.88 MaxControlSpeed=208.33 ModelNodeName=Right_Elevator ControlSystemID=1 [LeftAileron] SystemType=CONTROL_SURFACE InputName=ROLL_CONTROL MaxDeflection=10.0 MinDeflection=-10.0 MaxControlSpeed=115.0 HasGearDownSetting=TRUE GearDownMaxDeflection=1.0 GearDownMinDeflection=-1.0 CDdc=0.0202 Cldc=0.0247 Cndc=-0.0022 CldcAlphaTableNumData=15 CldcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CldcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CldcAlphaTableData=0.834,0.984,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,0.984,0.834 CndcAlphaTableNumData=15 CndcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CndcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CndcAlphaTableData=1.990,1.825,1.660,1.495,1.330,1.165,1.000,0.835,1.000,1.165,1.330,1.495,1.660,1.825,1.990 //ControlRate=1.0 ControlRate=0.83 ModelNodeName=LeftAileron //ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE [RightAileron] SystemType=CONTROL_SURFACE InputName=ROLL_CONTROL MaxDeflection=10.0 MinDeflection=-10.0 MaxControlSpeed=115.0 HasGearDownSetting=TRUE GearDownMaxDeflection=1.0 GearDownMinDeflection=-1.0 CDdc=0.0202 Cldc=0.0247 Cndc=-0.0022 CldcAlphaTableNumData=15 CldcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CldcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CldcAlphaTableData=0.834,0.984,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,1.000,0.984,0.834 CndcAlphaTableNumData=15 CndcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CndcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CndcAlphaTableData=1.990,1.825,1.660,1.495,1.330,1.165,1.000,0.835,1.000,1.165,1.330,1.495,1.660,1.825,1.990 //ControlRate=1.0 ControlRate=0.83 ModelNodeName=RightAileron //ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE [Rudder] SystemType=CONTROL_SURFACE InputName=YAW_CONTROL ReverseInput=TRUE //MaxDeflection=15.0 //MinDeflection=-15.0 MaxDeflection=25.0 MinDeflection=-25.0 CDdc=0.0207 Cydc=0.1159 Cldc=0.0074 Cndc=-0.0649 CldcAlphaTableNumData=15 CldcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CldcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CldcAlphaTableData=-18.407,-16.176,-13.866,-11.488,-9.054,-6.577,-4.067,-1.537,1.000,3.532,6.047,8.533,10.977,13.368,15.693 CndcAlphaTableNumData=15 CndcAlphaTableDeltaX=4.00 CndcAlphaTableStartX=-28.00 CndcAlphaTableData=0.705,0.759,0.812,0.862,0.910,0.954,0.994,1.030,1.000,0.965,0.926,0.883,0.837,0.788,0.737 ControlRate=4.0 MaxControlSpeed=180 ModelNodeName=rudder ReverseModelOrientation=FALSE RotationAxis=Y-AXIS [LeftSlat] SystemType=HIGHLIFT_DEVICE DeploymentMethod=MANUAL_WITH_BLOWBACK CLiftdc=0.0431 CDdc=0.00227 Cmad=-0.65105 DeltaStallAlpha=6.00 AreaRatio=1.018 Setting[1].Angle=20.0 Setting[1].DeployValue=111.5 Setting[1].RetractValue=115.9 Setting[2].Angle=20.0 Setting[2].DeployValue=112.5 Setting[2].RetractValue=115.9 MaxDeflection=20.0 MinDeflection=0.0 ControlRate=2.0 ModelNodeName=LeftWingLeadingEdgeSlats BlowbackSpeed=130.00 [RightSlat] SystemType=HIGHLIFT_DEVICE DeploymentMethod=MANUAL_WITH_BLOWBACK CLiftdc=0.0431 CDdc=0.00227 Cmad=-0.65105 DeltaStallAlpha=6.00 AreaRatio=1.018 Setting[1].Angle=20.0 Setting[1].DeployValue=111.5 Setting[1].RetractValue=115.9 Setting[2].Angle=20.0 Setting[2].DeployValue=112.5 Setting[2].RetractValue=115.9 MaxDeflection=20.0 MinDeflection=0.0 ControlRate=2.0 ModelNodeName=RightWingLeadingEdgeSlats ReverseModelOrientation=TRUE BlowbackSpeed=130.00 [LeftSwingWing] SystemType=HIGHLIFT_DEVICE DeploymentMethod=AUTOMATIC_MACH Setting[1].Angle=47.40 Setting[1].DeployValue=0.80 Setting[1].RetractValue=0.85 Setting[2].Angle=74.40 Setting[2].DeployValue=0.35 Setting[2].RetractValue=0.37 MaxDeflection=74.40 MinDeflection=0.0 ControlRate=0.1 //ModelNodeName=LeftWing //RotationAxis=Z-AXIS AnimationID=1 CLiftdc=0.0710 CDdc=0.0190 [RightSwingWing] SystemType=HIGHLIFT_DEVICE DeploymentMethod=AUTOMATIC_MACH Setting[1].Angle=47.40 Setting[1].DeployValue=0.80 Setting[1].RetractValue=0.85 Setting[2].Angle=74.40 Setting[2].DeployValue=0.35 Setting[2].RetractValue=0.37 MaxDeflection=74.40 MinDeflection=0.0 ControlRate=0.1 //ModelNodeName=RightWing //RotationAxis=Z-AXIS AnimationID=1 CLiftdc=0.0710 CDdc=0.0190 // Internal Guns --------------------------------------------------------- [Gun] SystemType=FIXED_GUN GunTypeName=23MM_GSH23 InputName=FIRE_PRIMARY_GUN MuzzlePosition=0.00,2.65,-1.05 LightPosition= 0.00,2.65,-1.05 MaxAmmo=200 EjectShells=FALSE EjectPosition=-0.94,-1.85,0.50 EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0 MinExtentPosition=-0.13,-1.30,-1.05 MaxExtentPosition= 0.13, 2.65,-0.50 AimAngles=0.0,1.3,0.0 // Weapon Stations --------------------------------------------------------- [LeftGloveStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-1.330,0.50,-0.105 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=560.0 LengthLimit=4.90 AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,IRM,BOMB,RP,RCKT AttachmentType=SOVIET,WP ModelNodeName=AAM_GlovePylon_Left PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=LeftRail [RightGloveStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=1.330,0.50,-0.105 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=560.0 LengthLimit=4.90 AllowedWeaponClass=SAHM,IRM,BOMB,RP,RCKT AttachmentType=SOVIET,WP ModelNodeName=AAM_GlovePylon_Right PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=RightRail [LeftFuselageStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-0.40,0.55,-1.16 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=225.0 LengthLimit=2.99 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,2IR,BOMB,RP AttachmentType=SOVIET,WP ModelNodeName=AAM_Pylon_Left PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=LeftRail01 [RightFuselageStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=4 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.40,0.55,-1.16 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=225.0 LengthLimit=2.99 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,2IR,BOMB,RP AttachmentType=SOVIET,WP ModelNodeName=AAM_Pylon_Right PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.02 LaunchRailNodeName=RightRail01 [CenterFuselageStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.00,-0.25,-1.1 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=760.0 AllowedWeaponClass=FT,RCN AttachmentType=SOVIET,WP ModelNodeName=CenterPylon PylonMass=108.9 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=Tank790_MiG23 // ECM --------------------------------------------------------- [DecoyDispenser] SystemType=DECOY_DISPENSER EjectPosition=0.00,-2.50,-1.75 EjectVelocity=0.0,-5.0,-5.0 NumFlare=6 NumChaff=6 MinExtentPosition= MaxExtentPosition= [ECM] //SPS-141 onboard ECM SystemType=ECM_JAMMER JammerType=DECEPTIVE_JAMMER JammerStrength=15.0 MinExtentPosition=-0.25, 7.72, 0.65 MaxExtentPosition= 0.25, 8.0, 1.80 // Fuel Tanks --------------------------------------------------------- [FuselageFuelCell] SystemType=FUEL_TANK FuelTankID=1 MaxFuelAmount=3000.00 SelfHealing=TRUE FireSuppression=TRUE MinExtentPosition=-0.55,-1.55,-0.26 MaxExtentPosition= 0.55, 1.95, 0.34 HasArmor=TRUE ArmorMaterial=STEEL Armor[FRONT].Thickness=6 Armor[right].Thickness=6 Armor[left].Thickness=6 Armor[REAR].Thickness=6 Armor[TOP].Thickness=6 Armor[bOTTOM].Thickness=6 [RightWingFuelCell] SystemType=FUEL_TANK FuelTankID=2 MaxFuelAmount=350.00 SelfHealing=FALSE FireSuppression=FALSE MinExtentPosition=0.64,-2.50,-0.09 MaxExtentPosition=2.13,-1.60, 0.09 HasArmor=TRUE ArmorMaterial=STEEL Armor[FRONT].Thickness=2 Armor[right].Thickness=2 Armor[left].Thickness=2 Armor[REAR].Thickness=2 Armor[TOP].Thickness=2 Armor[bOTTOM].Thickness=2 [LeftWingFuelCell] SystemType=FUEL_TANK FuelTankID=3 MaxFuelAmount=350.00 SelfHealing=FALSE FireSuppression=FALSE MinExtentPosition=-0.64,-2.50,-0.09 MaxExtentPosition=-2.13,-1.60, 0.09 HasArmor=TRUE ArmorMaterial=STEEL Armor[FRONT].Thickness=2 Armor[right].Thickness=2 Armor[left].Thickness=2 Armor[REAR].Thickness=2 Armor[TOP].Thickness=2 Armor[bOTTOM].Thickness=2 // Landing Gears --------------------------------------------------------- [NoseGear] SystemType=LANDING_GEAR Retractable=TRUE DeployTime=5.0 AnimationID=4 DragArea=0.25 HideGearNode=TRUE ModelNodeName=NoseGearMainStrut InsideNodeName=NoseGearWell ShockNodeName=NoseGearMainArmDamper ShockAnimationID=7 ShockStroke=0.4 SpringFactor=3.0 DampingFactor=0.5 WheelNodeName001=NoseGearLeftWheel WheelNodeName002=NoseGearRightWheel RotationAxis=Z-Axis RollingRadius=0.240 CastoringWheel=TRUE CastoringNodeName=FrontPV Steerable=TRUE MaxSteeringSpeed=41.15 Locking=FALSE MaxSteeringAngle=45.0 InputName=YAW_CONTROL ControlRate=1.0 HasBrakes=FALSE RollingCoefficient=0.05 MaxDeploySpeed=128.61 [LeftMainGear] SystemType=LANDING_GEAR Retractable=TRUE DeployTime=5.0 AnimationID=4 DragArea=0.50 HideGearNode=FALSE ModelNodeName=LeftLandingGearMainActuator ShockNodeName=LeftLandingGearUnderArm InsideNodeName= //ReverseShockOrientation=FALSE ShockAnimationID=5 ShockStroke=0.40 SpringFactor=4.0 DampingFactor=3.0 WheelNodeName=LeftLandingGearWheel RollingRadius=0.45 CastoringWheel=FALSE HasBrakes=TRUE BrakingCoefficient=0.75 RollingCoefficient=0.05 MaxDeploySpeed=128.61 [RightMainGear] SystemType=LANDING_GEAR Retractable=TRUE DeployTime=5.0 AnimationID=4 DragArea=0.50 HideGearNode=FALSE ModelNodeName=RightLandingGearMainActuator01 ShockNodeName=RightLandingGearUnderArm InsideNodeName= //ReverseShockOrientation=TRUE ShockAnimationID=6 ShockStroke=0.40 SpringFactor=4.0 DampingFactor=3.0 WheelNodeName=RightLandingGearWheel RollingRadius=0.45 CastoringWheel=FALSE HasBrakes=TRUE BrakingCoefficient=0.75 RollingCoefficient=0.05 MaxDeploySpeed=128.61 // Airbrakes --------------------------------------------------------- [LeftAirbrake1] SystemType=AIRBRAKE DeployTime=3.0 RetractTime=1.5 AnimationID=3 ModelNodeName=AirbrakesTopLeft InsideNodeName= DragArea=0.675 MaxDeploySpeed=226.4 BlowbackSpeed=252.1 [LeftAirbrake2] SystemType=AIRBRAKE DeployTime=3.0 RetractTime=1.5 AnimationID=3 ModelNodeName=AirbrakeBottomLeft InsideNodeName= DragArea=0.675 MaxDeploySpeed=226.4 BlowbackSpeed=252.1 [RightAirbrake1] SystemType=AIRBRAKE DeployTime=3.0 RetractTime=1.5 AnimationID=3 ModelNodeName=AirbrakesTopRight InsideNodeName= DragArea=0.675 MaxDeploySpeed=226.4 BlowbackSpeed=252.1 [RightAirbrake2] SystemType=AIRBRAKE DeployTime=3.0 RetractTime=1.5 AnimationID=3 ModelNodeName=AirbrakeBottomRight InsideNodeName= DragArea=0.675 MaxDeploySpeed=226.4 BlowbackSpeed=252.1 // Lights --------------------------------------------------------- [LeftPositionLight] SystemType=LIGHT LightNodeName=FeuxLeft CanFlash=TRUE FlashTime=0.70 [RightPositionLight] SystemType=LIGHT LightNodeName=FeuxRight CanFlash=TRUE FlashTime=0.70 [LeftLandingLight] SystemType=LIGHT Position=-0.65,2.242,-0.731 LightSrcOffset=0.0,6.0,-0.2 Color=0.66,0.66,0.6 Brightness=0.05 LightSrcRange=5.0 CanFlash=FALSE IsLandingLight=TRUE [RightLandingLight] SystemType=LIGHT Position= 0.65,2.242,-0.731 LightSrcOffset=0.0,6.0,-0.2 Color=0.66,0.66,0.6 Brightness=0.05 LightSrcRange=5.0 CanFlash=FALSE IsLandingLight=TRUE [TailLight] SystemType=LIGHT Position=0.0,-7.82,2.13 LightSrcOffset=0.00,-0.20,0.00 Color=0.66,0.66,0.6 Brightness=0.02 LightSrcRange=0.3 CanFlash=FALSE //---------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to Nele's awesome FM, thanks to who updated the last MiG-23ML FM (can't find original readme) Let me know what you think... i really like this plane now.

thanks to you! i'm still working to get more drag in hard pulls and rebalancing to make it a little harder to fly.

Ciao ragazzi, vi saluto qua sul forum ITA (la prima volta che ci scrivo). Sono un fan di tutta la serie thirdwire da quando uscì Wings over Europe e nel tempo libero metto insieme e converto varie mod e aerei per la serie SF1 e SF2. ho qualche progetto di campagne ambientate nei 70 e 80 basate sul terreno dello stretto di Formosa e altri. Conosco spillone di fama.. praticamente tutti gli F-104 che ho sono fatti da lui . Mi diverto a modificare gli effetti e ho lavorato sull upgrade del cloudscape insieme a shrikehawk. Prediligo gli aerei russi.. in particolare i MiG-29 ma adoro anche i 25, 23, 21 e 31. (avevo iniziato a creare una campagna moderna che seguiva le campagne di WoE partendo dagli anni 90 ma si volava sia negli squadroni della PVO Strany sia nell'aviazione rossa d'attacco. poi non l'ho mai testata e debuggata a dovere.) Comunque, niente.. buon weekend, a presto. Corrado.

niiiiiiiiiiiiice! can't wait to escort some A-50!!!

Cheers guys!

that's the best photo in the thread!

Heh i like those threads too because we can talk of "what if" and be well known about this is theory... cos i really hope there will be no need in the future to fight against. i wish the wars could be fought only in a flight sim tournament we're all friends!

wanna really watch one of the best movies of the last 10 years? Shutter Island i swear you.. that movie just drove me crazy.

Fastcargo, first, i enjoy talking with real pilots (like ezlead and others) about something i like to know more... flying. (as i never held a stick of a fighter neither i saw one for real). Sure ezlead is right, and sure these relaxing polls about "who will win 1vs1" aren't a debate about who is the best pilot here. (and i'll never win.. im not a pilot ) don't misunderstand me... i like to get precious advices from people that made military aviation to the highest standards.. but i don't really understand if your point is to "snob" me or what... i really respect pilots... was my dream as a young child and i never realized it (no money for school and italian aviation isn't so exCiting like USA one) so returning in topic, i wrote that in a dogfight i THINK that skill is really what get the job done. maneuvering skill, knowledge of the plane, knowledge of combat moves, knowledge of physics and more... i just thought that from LONG range, who has the better radar, longest range and reliabily missiles, ECM and AWACS support, would win. Assuming the rookie at least knows how to use a radar and to arm a missile. if the skill of the ace pilot is so high to dive fast at 100 feets to put noise on the lock or using evading moves to counter the slowturning longer range missiles to get in range for a lock and fire... well then yes the rookie with better equipment surely lose. i was just wondering if the rookie with active homing missiles could fire and forget while the ace have to mantain painting the rookie to get his payload going there, was a big gap. even for an ace... but surely im wrong. but is a relaxing stress free thread and i just write cos i like this forum.. go easy on me EDIT: typo... exciting... not exiting heheh

yeah... so equipments win! +1