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Ok, you all are going to laugh at me ... I just discovered Russo's 109F-4s happily residing in the download section. I says to myself "Hey, Kev, you don't have them. Its Russ's stuff, and will replace the old Wolf birds, expecially when one is a Trop, with the correct dust filter you need for Africa!!"

So I get them. As expected, they are excellent. But with one weird thing ... not one of the 3 aircraft in the package (and there are some GREAT, too BTW), has a loadout ini, because they don't have any hard points. Like the centerline, for the 300l tank, or even a bomb.

So, opinions, please. Should I rig up mount, maybe using the ETC50 rack via fakepilot? or what??? All my books show the F with centerline mounts

thanks! The planes are too good to not have them upgraded and/or repaired

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if we talk about the BF-109F-4 the answer is no , they had no bomb rack or drop tanks , the BF-109F4/R3 on the other hand was a recon bird an had a drop tank

in general the BF-109F versions was able to carry bombs or a droptank but it seems that the F4 did not

that is what i found on info , i dont know if on a later point in time if the F4 got some bomb rack or drop tank 

 

              BF-109F4

  • Lenght (m) : 8,94
  • Hight (m) : 2,60
  • Wingspan (m) : 9,924
  • max. Speed (km/h) : 600+
  • max. Range (km) : 570
  • Service Ceiling (m) : 12000
  • Weight  Emty (kg) : 2083
  • Flight Weight (kg) : 2890
  • Engine Type : DB 601 E
  • Engine-Mounted Armament(en) : MG 151/20
  • Fuselage Armament : MG 17
  • Wing Armament : NONE
  • Air-Dropped Weaponry : NONE
  • Radios : FuG VIIa , FuG 25a
  • Other Devices : Revi C/12 D

 

aaahhh....... the BF-109F4B and the BF-109F4/R6 was a JaBo version and could carry Bombs and the BF-109F4/R1 had wing mounted MG-151  all other BF-109F4 versions did not carry bombs or drop tanks and had no wing mounted guns

hope that helps , Volker

 

Edited by ravenclaw_007
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there is aexcellent side that anwsers all questions about BF-109 / Me-109 

https://me109.info/web.php?lang=de&auth=e&name=bf109e&versionscategory=6

unfortunatley it is in german , on the left side you can select the general version of the aircraft and on the right top ( with a white background ) you can select the sub-versions and get all infos about this version

if you like it easy you ask me and i translate it for you  :grandpa:

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Isn't that F-2 and F-4 had kits (Rüstsätze)

So on F-4 and F-2

R1 - ETC500/IXb for 250kg bomb 

R2 - 4x ETC50/VIId for 4 - 50kg bombs

R3 - kit for an extra 300dm3 fuel tank

R7 - 2x  MG 151/20  (20mm guns under wings)

R8 - photo camera Rb75/30 or Rb50/30..

Generally F-4  had engine - DB601E with VDM 9-1201A propeler and MG151/20. (and 7.92 machineguns).  New shape charger intakes and extra protection for the pilot.

F-2 had MG151/15 and DB601N engine.

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AFAIK the Me-109F-4 had in all subversions the capability to carry a 300 liter tank. But not all subversions were able to carry bombs.

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this is what I wanted/needed. All my books on the 109 showed F (varying variants) with the ability to carry a tanks. Oddly, the painting I've used for the F loading screen, doesn't have the sway braces showing. So, either not carrying a tank, or never did (see below). 

Checked the squadron/signal in action books, BOTH Modeler's Data Files (although prt 1 is protypes to E)

I know Russ would never make a mistake like that, so his must be right!

thanks gents!!

 

MTO_109_Loading.jpg

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Is that Jimmy Cagney in the cockpit???

(them puppies were built about 20-ish miles from where I'm sitting, over the hill in Burbank. Considering i'm half a mile east of Santa Monica airport, where all kinds of good things were built at Douglas) 

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