Silverbolt Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 http://www.webpark.ru/comments.php?id=45748 in translator says it was build in 1932 and crash in the first test, but i can't find more info abou it. Quote
Svetlin Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 For the real thing, follow the link: http://www.airwar.ru/enc/bww1/k7.html (text in Russian, you'll need a translator). P.S. Your link shows a what-if model based on the K-7 plane of Russian constructor Kalinin. Quote
+Stary Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 What the f... this is HUGE man... nice renders, any actual photos? I have no idea what's this, but makes my blood pumpin' Quote
TheChief2000 Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 Ha Ha I love the pics with the dorsal and ventral battleship turrets! Quote
i90807065 Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 Whoa russia has come up with some huge stuff, but thats possibly the biggest prop bomber/flying battleship ive ever seen... I did however find the pic of it vs. the nazi UFO hilarious Quote
MigHound Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) I read somewhere, it's a cheaper, cost effective substitute for the TU-160. It's the way of the future... Edited January 25, 2009 by MigHound Quote
+russouk2004 Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 The thing IS ridiculous.......but I gotta say the 3d models and renders are superb.. Quote
+lindr2 Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) http://www.webpark.ru/comments.php?id=45748 in translator says it was build in 1932 and crash in the first test, but i can't find more info abou it. Kalinin K-7, 11 test flights, (5.5 hrs time summary) crashed in 1933 15 crews died, 5 survived. http://airwar.ru/enc/bww1/k7.html Inside this airplane there was a RAILWAY that the gunners could move quickly. Plane had 360 deg turret defence, Each point was fired by three or more gunners. 12 turret with 8x20mm + 8x7.62mm Guns summary. Wing area 254 m.sq, span 53m, length - 28m, empty 21000 Kg. 16000kg loadout. max speed 234kmph, cruise 204 kmph, range 1000 km, ceiling 5000m 7 x AM-34 engines at 750 HP. Edited January 25, 2009 by lindr2 Quote
+krizis Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 Oh Silverbolt... are you always searching for such "news"? :))) Quote
gbnavy61 Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 Compensating for something there, Russia? Quite possibly the ugliest thing I've seen in a long time. Quote
ezlead Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Those 8 inch 50's would make the USS Newport News(Last all gun Cruiser)(21,000 tons) slide sideways in the water. I wonder what they would do to that thing? It would probably go backward if it would have stayed together. I love the Nazi flying saucer!! He** of an airplane for back in the day. Just think if it would have become operational. Quote
Viper6 Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 my goodness it's just a BIG target for fighters Quote
Thog10 Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 my goodness it's just a BIG target for fighters Well, after watching wave after wave of AI controlled F-100s get torched by the tail gunners of a flight of Il-28s, I am not sure how they would do against the Russian flying dreadnaughts. As ridiculous as they might be, someone very skilled did put a whole lot of time into them. Quote
Viper6 Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Well, after watching wave after wave of AI controlled F-100s get torched by the tail gunners of a flight of Il-28s, I am not sure how they would do against the Russian flying dreadnaughts. As ridiculous as they might be, someone very skilled did put a whole lot of time into them. Any good pilot would find and attack the weak points, from below Quote
Lexx_Luthor Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 This thing began to approach Zeppelin size. K-7 aroused intense interest among the public roundabout Stalingrad during the test flights, until the crash. viper:: BIG target for fighters I dunno m8/m8ette. Zero vs B-17. Aircraft arms were still mostly machine guns in the 1930s. Sikorsky's Ilya Moroumetz's had a positive kill ratio against German scouts. It was the "B-29" of 1915 doing alot of big ugly compensation over and behind the frontlines. Ah found it...B-29 time travel back to 1914 ~> http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/ilyamour.html Quote
Viper6 Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) By the time the B-29 was hitting japanese targets enemy fighters with good pilots were far and few between WWII showed that without good fighter escorts Bombers were toast.(Early 8th AF) But I guess WWI did not have capable fighters or pilots (lol) Edited January 26, 2009 by Viper6 Quote
Lexx_Luthor Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Zero vs B-17 -- Bf-109Dora vs K-7 -- 1930s ~> fighter arms were still mainly small calibre MG. We discuss "B-29" for the Ilya Moruomets~esuqe *looks* only...crew in glass nose. You have to visit the site (or another) to see what it looked like. Quote
Viper6 Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Zero vs B-17 -- Bf-109Dora vs K-7 -- 1930s ~> fighter arms were still mainly small calibre MG. We discuss "B-29" for the Ilya Moruomets~esuqe *looks* only...crew in glass nose. You have to visit the site (or another) to see what it looked like. RGR that Quote
Thog10 Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Any good pilot would find and attack the weak points, from below I agree. I was just wondering how our AI friends would do. Flying bombers online in Il-2 hyperlobby games, I am always amazed at how many pilots will make one decent pass from above/below/ahead, fail to shoot me down, and then settle in directly behind me where two or three of my gunners have a clear shot at their engines. Quote
Silverbolt Posted January 26, 2009 Author Posted January 26, 2009 Thanks for the reply mates, specially svetlinnh and Lindr2 Quote
Silverbolt Posted January 26, 2009 Author Posted January 26, 2009 Oh Silverbolt... are you always searching for such "news"? :))) oh yeah, russia amazes me...... what it should be called? the Tzar bomber? Quote
Lexx_Luthor Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Ah, found it from some years back. A diary by Amelia Bourne-Phipps, mentioning this K-7 monster. I don't think it ever left USSR, so I'd guess Amelia was there at the time. Here's the rub... No wonder! We hear that there is an aircraft requesting emergency landing permission - and not just any aircraft, but a Russian bomber, a Kalinin K-7, a veritable flying battleship, easily the biggest thing flying - and our Airfield is only just long enough in the best of conditions, which today is definitely NOT. They had requested to land far out West on Vostok Island, but the Authorities refused to let them anywhere near their airspace. (Some Political thing, by all accounts - at any rate, it will be the first actual Red Russian aircraft we have seen here.) Though we could hardly hear her over the storm, Miss Devinski called for volunteers to help the airport crews - naturally we all volunteered, even "Soppy" Forsythe from Missy K's bunch.... : : etc...more here ~> http://spontoon.rootoon.com/SPwEx005.html Quote
Lexx_Luthor Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) Thog:: Flying bombers online in Il-2 hyperlobby games, I am always amazed at how many pilots will make one decent pass from above/below/ahead, fail to shoot me down, and then settle in directly behind me where two or three of my gunners have a clear shot at their engines. Most likely -- exactly how untrained or inexperienced fighter pilots attacked the real things, back in the day. What do HyperLobby newbies try when flying P-40s against Ki-27s in that sim? The same thing the Flying Tiger P-40 pilots tried (only one time) against Ki-27s in violation of Chennault's orders. Turnfight! The *similarity* ends there of course!! AVG pilots got shot up, fortunately by small caliber MG, and listened to Chennault after that. Edited January 26, 2009 by Lexx_Luthor Quote
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