Zweibrücken RF-4C skin?

[RustyKurnass 653]

Hi all guys,I searched in the download section,but look like if we miss the SEA/wraparound skins for the 26th TRW RF-4C during his day at  Zweibrücken.

I noted that in TMF RF-4C package we have the Euro 1 camo,but not the previous ones ( the 38th TRS ,one of the Wing Squadron with the short-lived 17th TRS,operated the RF-4C since 1965).

Is only a my error or the community lack these skins?

[+daddyairplanes 9,185]

hold one, theres a Gen one bird with this, checking if available on here or only in my files

 

[+daddyairplanes 9,185]

Gen 1, with Zweibrucken in Hill 2, a Euro One and SEA Wraparound (Mississipi ANG marking on skin). Its a copy from column 5s site and an executable rather than file based. suggest loading into a holding folder if you go this route and making the adjustments to the files to adjust from gen 1 to gen2

you may want to hunt around the D/L section for the templates that will suit your needs there is this one

 

by Sundowner, excellent templates but will need tweeking around the nose. It will however allow you to blank out the markings on the tail for the wraparound

there is a thread in the knowledge base concerning changing Gen1 birds to Gen 2

hope this helps

 

Edited May 4, 2018 by daddyairplanes

[Wrench 9,626]

FM will need a rebuild as well, given the 10 years past since it's release

[RustyKurnass 653]

Thanks guys!

Daddy,I've already downloaded and installed the TMF RF-4Cs and this triggered my request.

The Alconbury skin ( of which exist a separate skin also) is similar at my idea.

Honestly I don't know how work on a skin,out of my skill,but will try in some way.

Also check the KB section.

[+daddyairplanes 9,185]

11 hours ago, Wrench said:

FM will need a rebuild as well, given the 10 years past since it's release

should be similar to the C iirc, i remember reading about the QRF-4s being faster due to lack of slats but the QF-4E/Gs pulling more G (due to slats). could the stock F-4C serve as a good guideline?

Rusty, how are you at making decals? the biggest issue i could see with the mississippi  skin is to remove the markings on the tail. the easiest cheatenist way is to take the part from the psd template (just a square of the area around the tail) and over lay on top of the offending part in the skins jpg. basic cut and paste. the rest of the jpgs seem to be ok for a low viz skin without unit specific markings. will try to whip one up, but real life and the honey do list are giving me trouble getting to my own projects easy parts, so giving it a try may be faster.

beyond that, decals for unit markings and serial numbers and you got what you want. good luck and looking forward to seeing what you come up with

[amariani 4,697]

Is this what you're looking for?

[RustyKurnass 653]

1 hour ago, amariani said:

Is this what you're looking for?

Yes,specifically the first one!

[+daddyairplanes 9,185]

well why were ya hiding it amariani ?

on a serious note, the tail hook warning should come off the low viz versions (including wraparound), but nice catch on teh style of the dark grey on the nose (most units just did a anti glare on the top, not wrapped)

you wouldnt have some Alabama ANG hiding too would ya?

[amariani 4,697]

18 hours ago, daddyairplanes said:

well why were ya hiding it amariani ?

on a serious note, the tail hook warning should come off the low viz versions (including wraparound), but nice catch on teh style of the dark grey on the nose (most units just did a anti glare on the top, not wrapped)

you wouldnt have some Alabama ANG hiding too would ya?

Well, the grey and wraparound schemes came from one of the packages found here at CA. The SEA scheme was done by me using the templates also found here.

And YES, I do have the Alabama ANG unit. That one is in the Desert Storm Mod, if my memory serves me well.

26TRW.7z

[+daddyairplanes 9,185]

as far as i can tell its only Nevada ANG, not Alabama in ODS. unless its in one of the skinpacks or redux's out there.

it's on the todo list to make an ODS skin, one apiece for Alabama, Nevada, Zweibrucken and Bergstrom units. just not until current tanker project and Buffs at a minimum. at least unlike the Weasels, all the recce birds were gray by then

[+Coupi 4,295]

I like the SEA skin! Many thanks... 

[+Sundowner 4,583]

Somewhere.... I have at least 2 skins done for EVERY ANG unit, it's something I did a few years ago now, I wanted to try to do every F-4 unit in every camo scheme they'd used.

I don't think they all ever got released as there was just too many plus I thought it was just me that was that much of a Phantom Phanitic.

[+yakarov79 10,684]

56 minutes ago, daddyairplanes said:

as far as i can tell its only Nevada ANG, not Alabama in ODS. unless its in one of the skinpacks or redux's out there.

it's on the todo list to make an ODS skin, one apiece for Alabama, Nevada, Zweibrucken and Bergstrom units. just not until current tanker project and Buffs at a minimum. at least unlike the Weasels, all the recce birds were gray by then

in my ODS....

[RustyKurnass 653]

Thanks amariani,that's what I search for!!!!

Yakarov,your skins are beautiful!

And last sundowner.I think  there're more Phantom Phanatic than you think,personally I'll build each MiG-killer for both USAF and Navy in the 'Nam...I collected a lot of decals and kits but think that probably I'll die before finish my projects!

[+daddyairplanes 9,185]

1 hour ago, yakarov79 said:

in my ODS....

very nice. your own or did i miss something in the downloads? my ODS install right now is strictly what eburger68 did, original and updates

[amariani 4,697]

3 hours ago, daddyairplanes said:

as far as i can tell its only Nevada ANG, not Alabama in ODS. unless its in one of the skinpacks or redux's out there.

it's on the todo list to make an ODS skin, one apiece for Alabama, Nevada, Zweibrucken and Bergstrom units. just not until current tanker project and Buffs at a minimum. at least unlike the Weasels, all the recce birds were gray by then

Here...

117TRW.7z

 

Edited May 6, 2018 by amariani

[+yakarov79 10,684]

4 hours ago, daddyairplanes said:

very nice. your own or did i miss something in the downloads? my ODS install right now is strictly what eburger68 did, original and updates

My own new recce pack for ODS; skins, decals etc.

[+daddyairplanes 9,185]

ok, this is just funny, given i was hunting pics and doing a final scrub on serials when this topic popped up in Google

new stuff inbound,  my focus is 85 (Euro and Grey) and later, although there will be a wraparound skin too with a few serials

 

[+daddyairplanes 9,185]

On 5/4/2018 at 6:10 PM, RustyKurnass said:

Hi all guys,I searched in the download section,but look like if we miss the SEA/wraparound skins for the 26th TRW RF-4C during his day at  Zweibrücken

Rusty, if you've been watching the screenie threads, you'll notice new RF work including some comprehensive Zweibrucken skins for Euro 1 and Hill gray, and im working wraparound right now.

what time frame are you looking for exactly?  my plan is just the 1980s, but if you have a fairly accurate list of serials that were there at a given timeframe i wont mind knocking out a SEA skin as well.  but i do insist on a targeted list,  18-23 serials and no you dont get to copy and paste joe baugher over. 

research and the first few decals are always the hard part. i've got that done for what im doing,  so if you got research down on this it wont be hard for me to knock out the decals

[RustyKurnass 653]

Thx Daddy, I'll search for planes covering the mid ' 70s to mid 80s timeframe

[+daddyairplanes 9,185]

8 hours ago, RustyKurnass said:

Thx Daddy, I'll search for planes covering the mid ' 70s to mid 80s timeframe

i got from about 83 through 91 down

to be released in ........ two weeks

but i am hoping more for the brief fortnight than the longer 14 days......

[Blade 300]

RF-4C Phantoms of the 26th TRW in the '70s and early '80s (list based on my photo collection):

68-0565        SEA Camo    1978 Jun    17th TRS
68-0566        SEA Camo    1975 Jun    17th TRS
68-0567        SEA Camo    1978 Jun    17th TRS
68-0568        SEA Camo    1978 Jun    17th TRS

68-595        SEA Camo    1980 Jun    38th TRS (probably w/ 17th TRS previously)
68-596        SEA Camo    1979 Jun    38th TRS
68-599        WrapAround    1981 Jun    38th TRS
68-0600        WrapAround    1982 Sept    38th TRS
68-0602        SEA Camo    1979 Jul    38th TRS
69-350        SEA Camo    1979 Jun    38th TRS
69-360        SEA Camo    1983 Mar    38th TRS
69-361        SEA Camo    1979 Jul    38th TRS
69-365        SEA Camo    1980 May    38th TRS
69-366        SEA Camo    '70s        38th TRS
69-367        WrapAround            38th TRS
69-373        SEA Camo    1979 Jul-Aug    38th TRS
*69-374        SEA Camo    1978 Jun    No sqn markings
*69-374        SEA Camo    1981 Jan    38th TRS
72-152        WrapAround    1978 Jun    38th TRS (probably the 1st WrapAround)

68-558        SEA Camo    1973 Aug    No sqn markings
68-564        SEA Camo    1976 Aug    No sqn markings
69-364        SEA Camo    1978 Jul    No sqn markings, probably 17th TRS
69-372        SEA Camo    1977 Jun    No sqn markings
69-370        SEA Camo    1974 Sep    No sqn markings, probably 17th TRS

Note: 17th TRS inactivated on 1 Jan 1979.

Edited June 6 by Blade

[+daddyairplanes 9,185]

as noted, i have wraparound taken care of, esp since there doesnt appear to be any 17th TRS in wraparound

ignore the towelbar, forgot to remove it in lodviewer and its not present on the RF-4C_75, just the _LORAN. although they did have at least one (69-0350)

its a good start, although most recce units appeared to have 23 birds per. will take a look at the airdoc book on USAFE Phantoms after i wrap up Alabama RFs. last read through i was a little more focused on after 1983....

[+daddyairplanes 9,185]

well,  finally got a reason(ish) to work on Loran birds. Six of what Blade shared have the towel rack on them. and here i thought i wasnt messing with it until i get to Idaho ANG (well still might not depending)