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On 25/4/2024 at 9:29 PM, daddyairplanes said:

yes as well as they are doing some fine tuning of both site and the mods prior to going live. not a bad idea really

do be prepared when you go to get it, last i checked it was about 15-16 GB install. thats after alot of trimming down; the Aircraft folder alone was 15 GB when they started, and the decals another dozen. its better now but still pretty damn big

Will definetly download it on my new PC when i get it then

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13 hours ago, daddyairplanes said:

if it is freely available, and enough interest in it takes off, im sure folks will get to tinkering and improving it (like we do everything else!)

Oh boy i love the SF community so much!

One of the best (if not the best) gaming community ever imo!

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On 4/26/2024 at 3:12 PM, daddyairplanes said:

its not the stuff commonly available here but the uncommon stuff (F-100F most immedieatly comes to mind)

if it is freely available, and enough interest in it takes off, im sure folks will get to tinkering and improving it (like we do everything else!)

I bet the F-100F was a primary point of interest for many people who downloaded YAP-RW when it was available. Certainly was for me!

Reading through the three active threads on the subject does clear up some confusion and questions I had about YAP-RW too.

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8 minutes ago, Viggen said:

Reading through the three active threads on the subject does clear up some confusion and questions I had about YAP-RW too.

when it goes live why not get it?

its a pretty comprehensive mod,  has a good amount that isnt available elsewhere and now with RW its available free.  the things that are still messed up may inspire new modders (or folks that have been inactive awhile) to join in

HERESY WARNING

and remember, im not even that into Vietnam stuff

 

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On 29/4/2024 at 9:57 PM, daddyairplanes said:

when it goes live why not get it?

its a pretty comprehensive mod,  has a good amount that isnt available elsewhere and now with RW its available free.  the things that are still messed up may inspire new modders (or folks that have been inactive awhile) to join in

HERESY WARNING

and remember, im not even that into Vietnam stuff

 

:lol:

when does it come out? and Drug War RW and Training School RW?

where can i follow updates and dates?

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19 hours ago, EricJ said:

Thanks, can't wait them to come out

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I don't know if it has been live for long but today october 10, YAP is back

Lot of stuff for purchase, for quite a bit of money ...

Happily I did download Yap-Revamp v2 + drug war + flight school when they were still free (thanks to a video of SF2 "master" youtuber Devin Horner)

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4 hours ago, Bev said:

I don't know if it has been live for long but today october 10, YAP is back

Lot of stuff for purchase, for quite a bit of money ...

Happily I did download Yap-Revamp v2 + drug war + flight school when they were still free (thanks to a video of SF2 "master" youtuber Devin Horner)

i think you're confusing the original YAP with YAP-RW.

The original YAP is for WOV and is still payware from YANKEE AIR PIRATE

YAP-RW is for the SF2 series and still free from YAP-RW – Yankee Air Pirate – Revamp Works (yap-revamp-works.com)

 

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Thanks Allen, you're right. I was mislead by the fact they apparently did split the 2 websites this year. I was not aware till now

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YAP are file thiefs. They take the work of others and sell them.

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as has been mentioned elsewheres, the current crew of YAP_RW  isnt charging, tries hard to give credit where due and will remove stuff if you should ask them to do so

the current YAP site (not RW) does mention several prominent modders from here (including you Gepard) and also has a cute little blurb on the bottom about "many files form the internet" and "credit to those that made it, apologies if we missed you".

But the RW team works hard to play by the civilized rules of the modding game, despite their original material

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3 hours ago, daddyairplanes said:

as has been mentioned elsewheres, the current crew of YAP_RW  isnt charging, tries hard to give credit where due and will remove stuff if you should ask them to do so

the current YAP site (not RW) does mention several prominent modders from here (including you Gepard) and also has a cute little blurb on the bottom about "many files form the internet" and "credit to those that made it, apologies if we missed you".

But the RW team works hard to play by the civilized rules of the modding game, despite their original material

This, and the owners of the original payware YAP site died years ago. I understand Gepard is hurt by the fact they monetized upon his free work, I'd also be furious about it in his place, but they're no longer with us, so it's pointless to beat a dead horse now.

IIRC the old site is still up just for history, the store shouldn't be working anymore, the RW team should have removed links to the store. The RW team is comprised of end users who had bought YAP products in the past and now are updating them to SF2 for free. So when YAP monetized upon stuff that shouldn't have been monetized in the first place, the end-users also got screwed for paying for contents coming from freeware sources.

I keep repeating myself, I think I explained several times that RW is unrelated to whatever wrongdoing YAP did in the past. I think it's time to move on. If people refer to the old SF1 version of YAP, Gepard has all the reasons to be angry at what they did. If it's about RW, Gepard can ask them to remove his works if he doesn't want them to be reshared outside of CombatACE. I see RW is pretty cautious about crediting like @daddyairplanes explained.

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