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1 hour ago, Wrench said:

Capun

Сapun has the best model of interaction with its users, of course. You should strive for it. It is the high standard. How many users does Сapun have per month? 0? I'm just asking. I haven't visited it for about ten years. (maybe there are 100,000,000) :biggrin:

It is better to make registration on the site paid right away. A person comes in, looks and immediately leaves without registering. Without wasting either his or your time.  No need to delete registration. 

I thought it was some kind of error on the site. Many people will think the same and will bombard with questions about why it is not downloading.

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On ‎28‎/‎12‎/‎2024 at 1:27 PM, parath said:

Usually its 5 files per day. today i wanted to download some stuff and its saying "You may only download 1 kB per day" I haven't donwloaded anything today and its saying this. Anyone knows why? 

THANKS.

Hey, got same problem, you solved it?

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6 minutes ago, HoracioOrtega said:

Hey, got same problem, you solved it?

Is not a problem, but a new site policy. Want to download mods, grab a subscription.

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I mean the topic is on two pages already, how do you go through all of this and ask that question about if there's a fix...

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EJ: It's called not paying attention. A terminal illness in many humans (just look at Los Angeles freeways ...)

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Yeah I got that, but it was so disturbing that you can't miss it, it's like right there...

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5 hours ago, bazillius said:

I'm sure the money won't grow by a single cent, but people will leave. Do as you wish.

and about porn. Anyone who watches a lot of porn will grow hair on their palms.

Respectfully, you missed the point entirely.

The pot is empty.

I am looking down the barrel of two options; figure out how to pay the bills or turn it off.

I don't profit from CA it costs me money every single month without fail. Not fake money, real money that people pay their bills with and use to buy food and essentials. CA is a bill that keeps rolling in multiple times per month, payment due on receipt.  If I understand you correctly, I turn off the site you won't get downloads or the community. If I charge for people to use our bandwidth you threaten to leave because you disagree with it. Seems to me I'm screwed either way. No thanks for paying the bills for 25 years and never being late so they turn the servers off. No thanks for all that you do working here 365 days per year for 25 years. No hey I have suggestion that might be worth trying. Nothing. Instead, let's all assume that Erik is doing this to make money off people and tell everyone how disgusting that is. After 25 years that is what I'm worth, understood, copy all.

Hey while we're at it, CA needs $3000-$4000 in hardware and software. We've been running a deficit for so long I can't bring myself to paying for upgrades to bring us into this century. Instead, I've been patching us together just to keep us alive. Where do you suggest I get that money from?

Erik  

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44 minutes ago, Erik said:

Where do you suggest I get that money from?

 

I don't have any money either. All my money goes to war. I just want to say that in this way you are simply cutting off users from third world countries. I am one of them. Look at some of the comments above.There will be no increase in money this way. Although why are we arguing. I shouldn't have written this comment. Everyone has their own problems. Someone's oysters are too small, and someone's second-rate bread is too stale. i dont say you must pay for everything. i just write what will happen.

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2 minutes ago, bazillius said:

I don't have any money either. All my money goes to war. I just want to say that in this way you are simply cutting off users from third world countries. I am one of them. Look at some of the comments above.There will be no increase in money this way. Although why are we arguing. I shouldn't have written this comment. Everyone has their own problems. Someone's oysters are too small, and someone's second-rate bread is too stale. i dont say you must pay for everything. i just write what will happen.

With out more income CA will close. If CA closes then nobody gets anything. I just write what will happen.

Besides, we arent finished with the changes. You are commenting on an unfinished project. Maybe my support isn't good enough you want everything right now. No discomfort, no waiting.

Czy się rozumiemy?

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Hi everyone ; happy new year anyway !!

One simple question : how much is it to stay , and how to pay ? These are 2 questions in fact...

Indeed, I cannot resolve myself to get out of this community, and as I don't contribute (no time and no particular skill for it), It's fair to pay (not too much !)

thanks for answering

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3 minutes ago, C.Pascal said:

Hi everyone ; happy new year anyway !!

One simple question : how much is it to stay , and how to pay ? These are 2 questions in fact...

Indeed, I cannot resolve myself to get out of this community, and as I don't contribute (no time and no particular skill for it), It's fair to pay (not too much !)

thanks for answering

As mentioned on the previous page, you can post for free on the forums. If you want the downloads though, you gotta pay a subscription for access to download files now. Given the previous posts by Erik this may or may not be a permanent solution, but for now that's how I read the situation.

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I can understand the problem of multiple accounts and something should be done about it. I can understand that it may be in deficit and some source of income should be found. But charging 10$ a month for a simulator that started in 2006 and had its last update in 2013, it's crazy. Especially since it was envisioned by its creator as open and easy to modify. And it was a freeware for all these years.

And there is more on it. I am now not able to download not even my own uploads, which is crazy. I was recently convinced to come back to modding, despite my severe lack of time, but the reworked RAZBAM F-102 was the only one that I managed to upload before the announcement. I have ready in my HD a veltro2K F-102 with reworked skins by me (something that I don't do often) + all the FM upgrades + a lot of goodies from Eagle (avionics, cockpit + IR delete). I have also ready reworked F-89s with new FMs (LOTS OF CHANGES, MUCH MORE REALISTIC NOW) and the new avionics and cockpit of Eagle. I have also reworked the F-104s, I have ready all the F-104A/B/C/D models both TW and AJ, now that I corrected critical values the Starfighter suddenly became the handful that it really was, I was talking also and used as a beta tester a person that his dad actually flew the F-104 he is himself a pilot and I was working on the F/G/J/S models. Well, guess what. I am not going to release now anything. Let it be I am finished with modding with SF2.

Now, someone will ask, is this that much to pay ? As you may have been aware, I had purchased most of RAZBAM and DLCs are well as YAP, so it's not that I am not willing paying. My answer is that since 2017 I had been largely inactive. While I was regularly logging into Combat Ace, I was more into looking and rarely downloading let alone installing. I haven't played the sim for almost a year until a couple of months ago. And I think I am not the only one. As years are going on, more and more people are becoming more casual with the SF2, simply because they are growing older and newer sims are becoming available. So giving that sum for me it's something excessive.

If you keep this, the SF2 modding will slowly fade away and die. You can see yourselves that there is a drastic decrease in downloads in comparison with what was happening a decade ago – which is to be expected, it's an old simulator now. For sure, it's the end of the FE2. Which is so unfortunate.

Now could had been done?

Some talk with the TW maybe?

One of the main reason that someone would still want to purchase from TW this old simulator WAS the huge aftermarket support from Combat Ace that now there's no more. Would TW still want to market this? Why not just give to you the rights? Or if not be enabled with Combat Ace somehow?

Or even better work on an update? Why not having an update that we can download only from CA (and of course pay for it)?

This is will keep the SF2/FE2 alive. If not, you just put the nail in the coffin.

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38 minutes ago, C.Pascal said:

Hi everyone ; happy new year anyway !!

One simple question : how much is it to stay , and how to pay ? These are 2 questions in fact...

Indeed, I cannot resolve myself to get out of this community, and as I don't contribute (no time and no particular skill for it), It's fair to pay (not too much !)

thanks for answering

From store part.

 

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1 hour ago, FANATIC MODDER said:

 

And there is more on it. I am now not able to download not even my own uploads, which is crazy. I was recently convinced to come back to modding

Lets listen together :biggrin::wink:

 

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Don't clutter the threat with non related videos

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On 12/31/2024 at 10:19 AM, yakarov79 said:

Many people, still do not get it.. I see.

i have a blunter version

pay a cover charge to get access to thousands of mods  and Combatace goes on for another few years. or consider it a streaming service if you like

or go back to free for all and it shuts down in 6 months

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having free access sure has brought some new names out the wood work. welcome

several old time names complaining in here that suprise me though, both in their complaints and that they are not some form of contributing member (modder, moderator admin). really some names have been around long enough i thought they were

but i do know that many of the names that have suprised me have been around long enough to have gotten most of what they want from CA, and to make most of their own changes too (minus models and terrains)

if having to take a step in fighting a losing battle with bills means "goodbye SF2" (a general quote not specific one), well then have fun with that.

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back to teh original rant of mine,

times change. circumstances change. rarely for the better

i used to be able to watch sports on network television. now i have to pay alot for cable to catch all games broadcast over the week or a little to a streaming service to catch the few on that service each week (hoping my teams are heavy on teh rotation for that channel) or go without

TW didnt do this, he's been pissin us off since Jul of 13 (the last patch for SF2) and has nothing to do with this site. Erik's just trying to keep this thing going and reign in a problem thats part of the growing expenses.

 

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To quote Erik...

"With out more income CA will close. If CA closes then nobody gets anything. I just write what will happen."

Pretty simple.

EDIT: What I'm more surprised at is the passive aggressive tone coming from people towards Erik on this decision. A couple of thoughts:

  • The running of CA is purely for the enjoyment of others, it makes zero profit, in fact it costs him a shit load of money to simply keep the website up and running. Does anyone seriously think he would ever want to apply a subscription to access downloads? It's been made abundantly clear from multiple posts in this thread that it is now beyond financial viability for him to keep things going without much needed help from the broader community
  • I'm amazed at the sense of entitlement being shown by some... I'm yet to see one shred of thanks to Erik for personally bankrolling this site where we all come to blow off some steam and enjoy SF2 (and other games) for over 20 years. That's his own money, that he's perfectly entitled to spend on his own hobbies... but instead, he keeps this place open for all of our enjoyment. Instead of criticising the guy, maybe we could help with him out by buying a subscription? Crazy idea I know, but christ on a bike... come on.
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It seems the somewhat unsavoury post that I responded to has now disappeared (thank you, Mods), but I feel my post is more broadly relevant so I'll leave it as is.
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For all those complaints, no one yet proposed any solution...nothing. It is easier to say "fuk u, I quit" No one is forcing anyone to stay, pay or even create content. It does not matter anymore. 

The worst thing is that you "takers" do not understand that without CA...there will be nothing to take. Of course, after that, mods will stay on private drives, and then it will travel around, some will use it, some will mod it and use it, and no one will give credit to other's work anymore..and all that hard work of guys from CA will be absolutely raped.  But for those who take it, it does not matter...Because mods should be free. I bought a game so you little moder- fukers give more content to download...

You guys who only download, you do not even give a shit to say "thank you" or write a review of the mod...Yes. You do not give a shit about it, who made it and why. As long as the download button is clicked. 

 

And..I just had a thought...Maybe there is a solution to it. That access to download will remain free. 

Let's make content payable. I mean. Download mod - new F-89 for example. Made out of new stuff, not related to old ones..all is new. No one will complain about using old parts in new ones.  But it is not free. 12$ per download. And the whole income from it goes to CA piggy bank. All modders and subscribers have free access to it. 

I think I could convince some other modders. For sure I can do it without a blink. I can even upload a mod within 3-4 days...TAV-8B. I think 15$ will be a fair price.  All income from it is going to CA piggybank. I do not want any profit from it. But If you will share it with someone who did not pay for mod..I will consider it as piracy....

Of course, someone will say that there is some Illuminati circle in CA...but at least, the site will remain free and alive.

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42 minutes ago, daddyairplanes said:

several old time names complaining in here that suprise me though, both in their complaints and that they are not some form of contributing member (modder, moderator admin). really some names have been around long enough i thought they were

If you are referring to me, I contributed in so many projects. Namely F-2/F-8/F-15/F-16/F-111 and lately F-102 but also other projects too.... And of course Tornado. You may think that it's a just a DATA or Avionics ini change but in reality it gets a lot of time do research and Beta testing. I had to do many times calculations all over again. Many times it was difficult to spot out the differences between various versions. I was also checking the performance through  beta testing. The avionics are very tricky too, radar ranges are approx many times the data are very difficult to find or classified. Radar strength is relative too. I had to put values based on reports and use a point of reference from stock TW mainly using the F-4, F-14 and F-15. And of course adjusting the loadouts and the respective weapons. All in the shake of realism. It took countless hours to do all this. I never complained for anything or asked to be put in a "modder" status. I never asked for anything, really.

I am not questioning what people are saying about the problems that they encounter trying to maintain this website. To be honest I was not aware of all these problems. Usually I am so tired by the time I am getting to CA, that I am just looking if they are new downloads and that's it, I rarely participate in the discussion section. I am sure that it could had been done in some other way. If someone had PM about the CA problems, I would had donate some money for help. But above all, it's not about my personal gain. I believe that this would be indeed the nail in the coffin. People were still bothered with SF2 EXACTLY BECAUSE IT WAS NOT LIKE STREAMING, now most of them they won't even bother commenting they would just move on elsewhere.

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3 minutes ago, FANATIC MODDER said:

If you are referring to me,

you are one of several. in this forum and other places

and by contributing member, i mean official. i am aware of your contributions on other mods. but officially you are a "valued member". which i believe means you dont lurk but youre not very active (as you yourself say in your last paragraph)

 

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22 minutes ago, yakarov79 said:

Let's make content payable. I mean. Download mod - new F-89 for example. Made out of new stuff, not related to old ones..all is new. No one will complain about using old parts in new ones.  But it is not free. 12$ per download. And the whole income from it goes to CA piggy bank. All modders and subscribers have free access to it.

It's better that way. Having free access but to pay for new models. Not everything, e.g for old SFP1 derived mods but something like these fantastic new Sabra Dogs of course it's fair enough to be payware

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1 minute ago, daddyairplanes said:

you are one of several. in this forum and other places

Definetely NOT, sorry, what else should I had done to be named a modder??? You can ask Viper63a and Guruu.....also when in  the original F-16 release ALL VERSIONS HAD YF-16A specs on them. Do you know how much time it took to adjust them and put the correct values??

Modding is not only skinning, you should respect the work of others.

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@FANATIC MODDER

Hello and Happy New Year. Thank you for your input. I have relentlessly supported this community and everyone in it for more than two decades. No-one is more disheartened, and gut punched than me with the changes I must make. Since you were so kind to share your position let me reply with the same candor and directness. 

3 hours ago, FANATIC MODDER said:

 And it was a freeware for all these years.

It has never been freeware. TK charged for his games. He stopped developing his games because he couldn't pay the bills, sound familiar? CombatACE has never been freeware. I pay for those "free" downloads. Nothing in this life is free. It would be helpful if we could stop propagating this myth.

3 hours ago, FANATIC MODDER said:

I am now not able to download not even my own uploads, which is crazy.

@Wrench 

Could you open a discussion in the Modder group about this candidate?

@FANATIC MODDER

This is conflating two different issues. One is us being able to pay for the site and the second is your Modder status. The Modder group is a peer accepted position that I have nothing to do with other than the physical change on your account. I have asked Wrench to offer your name up for consideration. We do appreciate the twenty files you have shared with the community, and we are not in any way trying to keep you from downloading your own content. Thank you for your involvement in the community.

3 hours ago, FANATIC MODDER said:

Well, guess what. I am not going to release now anything. Let it be I am finished with modding with SF2.

I understand your position. My wallet is empty. There are no more funds to pay the bills. I am finished with supporting this site. Today is the first and in my email is the bill for December 2024, just like clockwork. How do you suggest I pay that bill or can I send it to you for payment? Please let me know but see we both can play the victim card.

3 hours ago, FANATIC MODDER said:

Now, someone will ask, is this that much to pay ? As you may have been aware, I had purchased most of RAZBAM and DLCs are well as YAP, so it's not that I am not willing paying. My answer is that since 2017 I had been largely inactive. While I was regularly logging into Combat Ace, I was more into looking and rarely downloading let alone installing. I haven't played the sim for almost a year until a couple of months ago. And I think I am not the only one. As years are going on, more and more people are becoming more casual with the SF2, simply because they are growing older and newer sims are becoming available. So giving that sum for me it's something excessive.

I'm trying to follow along, but you lost me. I don't see that you've ever financially supported the site. I do see the twenty files you have here. You have been inactive for the most part and I do see your random hand full of downloads monthly or bi-monthly depending on when you would log in. So, if you're not really downloading then you're coming here to visit the forums which aren't changing they will remain open and accessible at no cost. You want to know what's excessive? The bills that I pay every month. We need 100 monthly subscriptions every month just to pay the bills. Why might you ask? Because our catalogue is large, and our bandwidth bill is huge. 3.521 terabytes for December 2024. So given those sums for me it's something excessive.

3 hours ago, FANATIC MODDER said:

If you keep this, the SF2 modding will slowly fade away and die. You can see yourselves that there is a drastic decrease in downloads in comparison with what was happening a decade ago – which is to be expected, it's an old simulator now. For sure, it's the end of the FE2. Which is so unfortunate.

If we don't keep this, I will turn off the switch tonight and then I will see an absolute decrease in downloads. That would be truly unfortunate.

3 hours ago, FANATIC MODDER said:

Now could had been done?

Some talk with the TW maybe?

One of the main reason that someone would still want to purchase from TW this old simulator WAS the huge aftermarket support from Combat Ace that now there's no more. Would TW still want to market this? Why not just give to you the rights? Or if not be enabled with Combat Ace somehow?

Or even better work on an update? Why not having an update that we can download only from CA (and of course pay for it)?

This is will keep the SF2/FE2 alive. If not, you just put the nail in the coffin.

I don't understand most of this, but I get it.

TK quit because he couldn't make money. Period. End of discussion.

TK is not interested in selling the game or the rights to anyone but you're welcome to talk to him. If you need his email address, I will be happy to provide it to you.

There is no update because TK quit, he could not make money.

You keep SF2 alive, CA keeps it alive, the community keeps it alive. The nail is in the coffin. I've been trying to tell everyone that for years and years. I bring myself to the point of asking for donations and pleading for subscriptions, which is utterly demoralizing and demeaning, but I do it to keep this place open. You know who ends up supporting us during those times? The modders and a couple amazing people who understand. The public, the netizens on a whole have always been about the free part. Oddly, it's those that have never donated that are the ones speaking the loudest about this. So, I spend my time answering concerns and opinions when my time might be better spent figuring out a solution.

Thank you for what you do, and I do hope I answered your concerns.

Erik

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6 minutes ago, FANATIC MODDER said:

It's better that way

perhaps...But still. If there is a user who can create several accounts just to download content...Some users will download, and then send via "facebook"  to other friends that do not want to pay for that shit...So what is the point of payware mods? 

Because I am positive that some will download content to pay the bill..But some will do it with piracy in mind...And that is the reality. 

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