JonathanRL

Like I said, this is all very weird to my and my expertise is sadly not terrains. All I can say is that these issues do not show up for me. I fly in the 2014/2020 period with Naval Search planes, Carriers, escorts and aircraft added into my personal little playground. The F-14 stops at 86, so maybe you should get the F-18 or the Mirage Factory F-14 package for blue side? I added a makeshift Mi-14 Haze for Naval Search / AWACs duties into this package: http://combatace.com/files/file/13953-carrier-duel-knm-norskehavet-vs-the-kiev/ It may help you as well.

What year are you playing at? In the USN / Soviet setting, I found that any year after 1979 work for me and I only have stock USN assets and the vertical pack. I am sorry I cannot be of more help, but I do not encounter this issue myself.

The other problems are exactly why I ask people to make sure they have the proper aircraft and ships before they try to play the map. If you have proper aircraft and ships for both sides, they do not appear.

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... and sent a revised version (1.2). When you next see the file, it should be the updated version.

Problem solved. Having a water map is simply not enough, it has to be in a 8bit BMP. Any other format and it goes to fuck-all. This explains A LOT of issues I had with them. That said, it does not solve all the issues. Now the Carriers seem to want to spawn a little all over the place, preferably as close to one another as possible without regard for the zones I put for them. I will see what can be done about that.

The Fake Airfields are already there. They simply cannot spawn any Squadrons. That is how the map supports Campaigns. EDIT: Yeah, the water map is clearly the issue.

I find it all very strange. I tried a mission as the Soviets using the vertical packs; I had no issues. That being a single mission of course. As regards to the mission editor, I experienced a similar thing there - unable to move task forces but I designed this for quick carrier battles; so you would not have to use the mission editor to edit out land-based aircraft every time - so I never paid it much attention. So long story short, use it for single missions and not mission editor. It seems like the carriers and task forces are for some reason added after the mission editing stage. Might be a side effect of no land based aircraft thing. I will take a look at the Water_BMP, the only file I could imagine is responsible for this.

Fubar: It has a water map and I been testing the map for a week. It relies on two things. First all your Carrier must be large enough to carry your aircraft and you need to have the Carriers installed and on SF2: NA level. Also, you are not supposed to use a Backfire on this map. It is designed around the Carriers using their air wings. What fleet are you flying as, what year and what Aircraft?

Install the games first with the Thirdwire Game Installer. Saves a bunch of time. Mods can be installed in any order, but I would begin with the weapons packs so Aircraft weapons can overwrite if needed. And do check out the TMF F-14 Tomcat!

View File Open Ocean Carrier Battle Map This terrain is Starys Water-Only terrain, adjusted to be a Carrier duelling ground. It has two Carrier Stations and a few waypoints, as well as movement data to attack Convoys. There is no interference by ground based aircraft whatsoever, both Carriers has to rely on what they have available on their decks and is thus perfect for single missions. The Terrain can however also be used for Sea-Based Campaigns. Installation: Simply unzip into the Mod Folder of your choice. IMPORTANT NOTICE: This Terrain requires Strike Fighters 2: North Atlantic This Terrain may require some management of your Ground Objects. The key to this Terrain is the Ocean_NATIONS.INI. This needs to be adjusted to create the scenario you wish. As of right now, it is set to USN vs Soviet. It is imperative that you choose a year where both nations have a Carrier; regardless of the nations chosen. Do note that it does not have to be a Red vs Blue Scenario. Brazilian Navy vs Indian Navy, Indian Navy vs US Navy, Soviet Navy vs Brazilian Navy and onwards are all fun combinations in their own way. Not to mention the classic "Argentine Navy vs Royal Navy" ;-) To spawn a Carrier Group, there needs to be a Carrier and Escorts. Make sure the Carrier can house the intended aircraft! Troubleshooting: There are a few issues that may arise with this terrain, and all of them are based on your Ground Objects: My Nations/Enemy Carrier is not spawning: Check that you added the correct nation in the Nations.ini Check that the Carrier can carry the size of your aircraft (Some carriers can only house "Small" Aircraft and will not spawn if you chosen a "Medium" aircraft) Make sure the Carrier has a Name List. My Carrier has no Escorts: Make sure you have nation-appropriate Escorts. Escorts are ships designated as Crusiers, Destroyers and Frigates. This is done in the vessels Data file (WarshipClass=FRIGATE) For some nations, you can download Escorts but for others, you need to edit them for the nation you wish to use. Recommended Mods for use with this Terrain: Soviet Navy Vertical Pack WW2 Naval Units SF2: NA Ultimate Carriers Pack CVN Ulyanovsk Recommend you look in the Add-On Ships Section for anything else you may need. Paulopanz has also uploaded several Airplane + Carrier Packages that are worth checking out. Credits: Original Water only terrain by the amazing Stary Submitter JonathanRL Submitted 01/05/2014 Category Full Terrains

They could be just "shells"; without proper avionics and flight models and all that in DCS that takes most time.

I think that while it would be a dream come true for me, esp considering TSF. I think TK still makes enough from the SF2 PC that he would never go for it. I do not think it hurts asking, but TK giving us the source code or just handing over the reins of the project? Doubt that will happen. I for one still thinks that if TK wants to improve his PC sales (you know, the ones he keep whining about), he needs to put effort into it. A Steam release could be a good direction if he ever plans SF 3 - and like you, I do not think he does.

Please let this be the return of the Space Sims. I beg you.

It is not exactly we have a limited supply of nukes on this planet...

No need to Nukes. Take out the ruling family and cripple their command structure. Then move in with food caravans and televised football matches. Should make short work of it all. Then let China have the population and South Korea the land.

All we need now is that Carrier in SF2 so we can have some nice, big blue water navy battles and the Su-33 they have on it.

View File TSF Saab JAS 39 Sea Gripen-C Package. Installation: Unzip the entire package into your mod folder, usually Saved Games\ThirdWire\StrikeFighters2 or similar. Information: The Sea Gripen is Saabs take on a Carrier Borne Fighter, based off their Saab Gripen NG Project. It was however some ideas that the C version also would be an ideal platform for navies with smaller Carriers as a gap-filler until the Gripen NG entered the market. The idea has since been scrapped. However, this is the What-If Section and since we like Saab does not have a Gripen NG (E/F) available, we made one off the Gripen-C instead. Good Gripen-C Templates are included and free for use. This package contains one Aircraft with five skins, correct serials, nation-specific loadouts and correct weapons. Saab Demonstrator: Two made, modified from Swedish Air Force Gripen-Cs. Initally built as a proof-of-concept but then transferred for demonstrations and practical trials. First naval operation trials was made on the USS George H.W Bush during 2012. Alongside the many details in the contract, Saab retained the right to the US Navy Digital Camo for use upon the airframe. Official demonstrations of these Aircraft is said to have been boosted by Saabs decision to give out free copies of The Scandinavian Front during air shows. Swedish Air Force: The Swedish Air Force, in a frenzy to find new budget cuts for their Armed Forces decided to refit a Wing of Fighters from the Gripen-C to the Sea Gripen-C instead of upgrading them to the Gripen NG. The wing was then activated in 2014 as part of the Swedish Air Force Rapid Reaction Force where Carrier Landings in NATO Operations may be a requirement. The wing is based at F 21 Luleå and have access to the USS Queen Elizabeth for Carrier Training for their pilots. Brazilian Naval Avitation: The Brazilian Navy was the first nation to adopt the Aircraft for their navy, making the development of the Aircraft a requirement for the later approval of the Gripen NG Contract. VF-1 recived the Aircraft and begun training in 2014 and declared themselves operation for duty on the A 12 Sao Paulo in early 2016, making a flyover at the Olympic Games. Brazil has scored most kills with their Gripens, shooting down dozens of Drug Smuggling Aircraft and boats every month. Indian Fleet Air Arm: Following the defence paper of 2011, the carrier INS Viraat was to be decomissioned in 2020. However, without the Sea Harriers, she had been reduced to a Helicopter Carrier. Doubting both the Gripen NGs and the Rafaeles capacity to land upon her decks, the Sea Gripen-C was tested and subsequently bought 20 aircraft with a requirement for a quick delivery. The Indian Navy has expressed interest to retain the INS Viraat for a longer period of time, satisfied with the combination. Royal Navy: Following the near-crash-and-recovery of the F-35 Project saw the Royal Navy reducing the ammount of Aircraft to equip their Queen Elizabeth Class Carriers with. In order to retain maximum value for the Carriers built, the F-35B entered a Fleet Defence and offensive air combat role with the Gripen-C with both low purchase and operating costs deemed the best alternative. The 801th Naval Air Squadron with battle honours from world war II, Korea and the Falklands was reactivated to fly the aircraft, putting them in the front line for Britannic Security Policy once again. The Royal Navy is pleased with the Aircraft and has expressed interest to upgrade to the Gripen NG in the 2020s. Credits: Gripen-C 3D Model by Gux, updated by CadetteBra. Sea Gripen adjustments by Ravenclaw. Adjustments by dtmdragon Flight Model by Column5 Avionics by Jat & Moonjumper Skins by Team TSF, Decals by Paulopanz, Spinners & denissoliveira Weapons by Ravenclaw Serials by Team TSF Fact Checking and application by Team TSF Loadouts and .ini editing by Team TSF Templates by Ravenclaw Submitter JonathanRL Submitted 01/02/2014 Category What If Hangar

Sea Gripen-C

Question; Should not the gunner / radio operator be facing backwards?

We are already doing so without any Multiplayer, Macalena.