Wrench

I must disagree..... This is right out of the stock P-35 Barlock: [MissionData] NationName=SOVIET ServiceStartYear=1959 ServiceEndYear=1980 GroundObjectRole=EW_RADAR Availability=COMMON Exported=TRUE ExportStartYear=1960 ExportAvailability=COMMON This is from the P-12 Spoonrest: [MissionData] NationName=SOVIET ServiceStartYear=1959 ServiceEndYear=2010 GroundObjectRole=EW_RADAR Availability=COMMON Exported=TRUE ExportStartYear=1960 ExportAvailability=COMMON From the HAWK HIPAR/PAR: [MissionData] NationName=USMC ServiceStartYear=1959 ServiceEndYear=2000 GroundObjectRole=EW_RADAR Availability=COMMON Exported=TRUE ExportStartYear=1960 ExportAvailability=COMMON As for the HAWK PAR, mine most definately has the under line _ on both the folder name and the ini name "EWR" is the type of radar, defined by the terrain types ini; it allows the game engine to randomly popluate the terrain with various radars. It is NOT the GroundObjectRole.

Ran across this, too, when building the S92 for SF. Rather interesting 'what if'. Given the IDF's penechant for secrecy, it's quite possible that they may have 'experimented' with one. Easy enough to add one to the game to find out....simple redecaling and some ini tweeks Wrench kevin stein

Hell, I'm looking for a Rapair and M-109 series of SPGs!!! Wrench kevin stein

Don't know much about dropping the cockpit (other then maybe adjusting it's height in the cockpit ini???), but changing the color of the sight should be pretty easy, it's just a tga w/alpha channel Open the setka.tga in whatever image program you've got that handles tga w/alpha, like photoshop. In the layers/channels window, set to 'channels' you should see the 3 rgbs and the alpha. Selecting the RGB, you can paint 'under' the alpha any color you want. I kinda think of the alpha as a 'hold-out matte', like they used to use for movie special effects; it only shows through on the parts 'open' (in this case, the sight grid). Save and close. It should work. (just to note, I've done this several times for decals, and vehicle reskins that have the radar grid) Wrench kevin stein

Viggen: Now your work is just beginning..... In the Knowledge Base, you'll find a whole slew of data and loadout inis all pre-set and adjusted for use with the weapons pak. The thread is "Weapons/Load Fixes" or something like that. Just look for the HUGE thread with my name on it! The first several post explaing what, why and how to do it. For the most part, it's a simple copy/paste job. If you have any questions, or run into a problem, feel free to give me a shout ... since I'm the official Keeper of KB, that's my job! Don't forget to get the cat extraction tool, here at CA in the "SF/WoV/WoE Utilities Section". It's the most valuable tool you can own!!! Wrench Kevin Stein

Those are Edwards superb terrains...well worth the download. AvSim is a well known and respected site. btw,there are full sized (ie: actual real world size) versions of the 2 two fo them right here at CA, plus here excellent North Africa and Med maps. I can't remembe which of the PTO maps are the full sized ones ... New Gueina? Burma...disremember. Of course, you'll want to do a seperate install for the North Africa stuff..... Actuallly, you'll need a seperate PTO install as well....you don't want Messerschmitt's showing up to defend Tokyo, do you??? Wrench kevin stein

Well, kinda.... Now mind you, if you're really cleaver, and are super good with the mouse clicker, you can extract all the little bits, goodies, thingamabobs, do-jobies and etcs, and can drop the whole package into any of the Sims (excepting FE, that is -- I mean, really, would you waste a Skyflash on a Fokker D.VII, no -- you'd fly real close, and slow, get right in front of him ..... and LIGHT THOSE BURNERS ... fry his a$$ right up!! Yeah, I'm kinda evil that way....) You'd need: all the aircraft lods (including the shd -shadow- file) all the cockpit 'parts' for the readar, pit lod, all the cockpit tgas, bmps and whatnot. All easily done with the cat extractor. Then you could put it into SF or WoV with minimal muss and fuss. Wrench kevin stein ps: if you think THOSE fantasy-art decals are cool, I've got some super sci-fi ones for a (hopefully) upcoming Dev A-Team aircraft. If it never materalizes, or they just don't work, I'll find a use for most of them! W

Yup. It's all good...our little brother just needed a nudge in the right direction. Ob: you got it right??? I figured that once you could see YOUR Lybia ini, and compared it to Sag's, that all would become clear. Happy Hunting! -- kick Kadaffy Duck for me while you're over there, huh?? Wrench kevin stein

Ok, I see what happening...this is definatley a cat pointer problem. Can you do a copy/paste of you Lybia ini, just the top sections like Sag posted?? Somewhere, it's a simple line that's not pointing to the GermanyCE.cat. that's all it can be, due to the lack of 'stock objects' showing up Wrench kevin stein btw, just to let everyone know, in what little spare time I have, I'm reworking the modern Lybia targets ini to straighten out the misplaced objects. Should have it ready in a few weeks....

Honestly, I was never obvious to ME either!!! Now, thanks to your work, I know what those little numbers mean (kinda always wondered...) I just took them for granted, that they meant something, just never knew what. As to knowing what kind of weapon was loaded on a particular aircraft, I just been using what I've learned over the years, research books I have (hundreds!!!!), photos, and web searches. There are certain obvious things you wouldn't be seeing, like a TER of Mk82s on P-51 (I know that's a lousy example, but....) A lot depends on the aircraft itself. You won't see, for instance, a Walleye on F-100. It has nothing to use as a TV sight (EOGB). You would see it on a Phantom, or Skyhawk (C or later), or Corsair II. Conversely, you CAN have a Bullpup on the Hun, or anything else that 'hardwired' for the controls - since it requires no visual link. RCG type OTH, going back to our Hun (stock F-100D), since it dosen't have any kind of RWR, mounting a ARM on it might not be realistic. None of the Weasel stuff I've rearched has given any indiction of the use of an anti-radiaton missile. (most photos I've seen show, F-100F we're speaking of) bombs and/or rocket pods. But the game allows us to load one. Yes, I know the F had some kind of RWR for the Bear. But the Shrikes may not have been availble at the time, or the aircraft had no more room for electronics 'growth'. Which is actually true; hence the mods for the Thud G into the next WW. I think the loads are more of a 'common sense' things...what's available, and is the bird wired to handle it?? I now pass on the most important thing I've ever learned in all my combat flight simming -- Research, Research and More Research. It has to make 'real world' sense. Bright_Blue_skies: the pdf doc in question is called "Weapons_pak.pdf" and its included in the weapons pak. It should also be at the Weapons Wiki, and might even be here in the Knowledge Base (I'll have to check that) Wrench kevin stein

What exactly isn't working in Lybia???? no terrain? no targets?? Don't forget, Lybia will also need desert terrain tiles (since you can't use the desert.cat without SF) Can you take and post a screenshot of the problem??? I'd reccomend Deuces desert replacement tiles (they should be either here or at SFMods.com - his site). They're enhanced versions of the 'stock' tiles. And the water effects will need adding, too. That fix is here at CA. Just to let you know, Lybia is also one of the terrains wherein you'll find things sorta 'misplaced'....they'll be lots of building out in the Gulf of Sidra, along with various AAA and SAMs too (they like to swim!!) I'm not sure, have to check, but I know I did an upgrade in moving objects 'back' onto the coast or at least inland enough to be out of the water. This is for modern Lybia, not the WW2 stand-in I did a coupla years back. Wrench kevin stein

....and that's when you release the tiger!!!" (pulls lever) Wrench kevin stein

I wondered what the exact question was!!! You know, a full list (like posted above) is in the the weapons pak pdf file. There's also a twin-arm rack (2AR, me thinks??? -- and I just made one for the Thud G WW) These don't work yet: DLP NP not sure: IFP (we DO have illuminator flare, with pods..so I not sure about that one) BFT hasn't been used, that I know of. I only know of 1 bird that might use it; seen a few pics of a Mirage III with bombs on the drop tanks. I know the IDF never used them. Wrench kevin stein

Mine's probably one of the easiest....been in automotive since 1977, either as a technician (mechanics got an upgrade when vehicle computers came out) or shop manager. Hence, 'The Wrench'. Had it like forever, all the way back to the old Janes' Green Board. Wrench Kevin Stein

Wrong again.... after crashing his C model at the end of Lucifer Crusade, it went back to GD in the Republic of Texas for a rebuild. They got it back to him, as an XL, just in time to defeat the Army of The Circle in Thunder in the East. Return From the Inferno is when Hawk got it back after it got 'plane jacked'. Parked on top of a mountain, as I remember (ok, it's on the cover art...but what the hell...!) Baby, you're dealing with an Expert here!!! The Next Question is -- how you gonna do the flamethrower, Jim???? Wrench kevin stein

That would have been my next questions....what's the cat pointer. If you start on the ground, you'd notice it immeadetely, as you wouldn't have an airfield around you! Lybia would require the desert.cat OR the use of alternate terrain tiles for WoV or WoE as well. With of course, the adjusted cat pointer that Sag mentions above. Which game are you using, that would help determine which stock terrain cat you'd need to point too....always helps to know for next time Wrench' kevin stein

A few more teasers..... "Just the FAC, ma'am" "They keep watching the skies...." Join the Hunt... "Never pi$$ off a Hog driver...that's what I'm talking about!!" Wrench Kevin Stein

could you be a little more specific..... as in, "I'm not seeing them visually" or "the little buggers ain't showing up at all!!" Wrench kevin stein

IAI K'fir C7 (by those Master of the Delta Wing, The Mirage Factory) Data ini: [CenterStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0,-0.8,-1.045 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=550.0 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=CenterPylone PylonMass=34.02 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=Kfir_RP1300C [CenterBomb1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0,-2.30,-0.907 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1000.0 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,TER AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=CenterPyloneBomb PylonMass=34.02 PylonDragArea=0.02 [CenterBomb2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0,0.95,-0.907 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1000.0 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,TER AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=CenterPylonebomb PylonMass=34.02 PylonDragArea=0.02 [LeftWingIntStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=4 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.145,-1.6,-0.805 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,FT,BFT,LGB,LGR,TLR AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=LeftInnerPylone PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=Kfir_RP1300C [RightWingIntStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.145,-1.6,-0.805 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,FT,BFT,LGB,LGR,TLR AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=RightInnerPylone PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=Kfir_RP1300C [LeftWingIntStation2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=6 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.145,-1.92,-0.6 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-0.85,0.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName= PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=Kfir_SRP500K NoJettisionTank=TRUE [RightWingIntStation2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=7 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.145,-1.92,-0.6 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-0.85,0.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName= PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=Kfir_SRP500K NoJettisionTank=TRUE [LeftWingIntStation3] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=8 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.145,-1.351,-0.892 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-2.5,0.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=LeftInnerPylone01 PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 [RightWingIntStation3] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=9 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.145,-1.351,-0.892 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-2.5,0.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=RightInnerPylone01 PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 [LeftOuterWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=10 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-3.006,-2.2,-0.78 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-2.5,0.0 LoadLimit=550 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=Leftpylonemissile LaunchRailNodeName=Rail_Magicleft PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= [RightOuterWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=11 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=3.006,-2.2,-0.78 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-2.5,0.0 LoadLimit=550 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=Rightpylonemissile LaunchRailNodeName=Rail_Magicright PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= // rear pyl [LeftFusePyl] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=12 StationGroupID=4 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-0.774,-2.715,-0.77 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,10.0 LoadLimit=450 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=LeftFuseP PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= [RightFusePyl] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=13 StationGroupID=4 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition= 0.774,-2.715,-0.77 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,-10.0 LoadLimit=450 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=RightFuseP PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= // front pyl [LeftFrontPyl] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=14 StationGroupID=5 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-0.878,0.968,-0.901 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,10.0 LoadLimit=450 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=Left_FrontPyl PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= [RightFrontPyl] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=15 StationGroupID=5 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.878,0.968,-0.901 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,-10.0 LoadLimit=450 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=Right_FrontPyl PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= [LeftFrontPylLGB] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=16 StationGroupID=5 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-0.878,0.968,-0.901 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,10.0 LoadLimit=500 AllowedWeaponClass=LGB AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=Left_FrontPyl_LGB PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= [RightFrontPylLGB] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=17 StationGroupID=5 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.878,0.968,-0.901 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,-10.0 LoadLimit=500 AllowedWeaponClass=LGB AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=Right_FrontPyl_LGB PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= Loadout ini: [AirToAir] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Kfir_RP1300C Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=Python3 Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[09].WeaponType=Python3 Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=Python3 Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=Python3 Loadout[11].Quantity=1 [AirToAirLongRange] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Kfir_RP1300C Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=Kfir_SRP500K Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=Kfir_SRP500K Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=Python3 Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=Python3 Loadout[11].Quantity=1 [Attack] Loadout[02].WeaponType=CBU-52 Loadout[02].Quantity=3 Loadout[02].RackType=TER Loadout[03].WeaponType=CBU-52 Loadout[03].Quantity=3 Loadout[03].RackType=TER Loadout[04].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=AIM-9L Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=AIM-9L Loadout[11].Quantity=1 Loadout[16].WeaponType=GBU-12B Loadout[16].Quantity=1 Loadout[17].WeaponType=GBU-12B Loadout[17].Quantity=1 [Anti-Ship] Loadout[02].WeaponType=Mk82 Loadout[02].Quantity=3 Loadout[02].RackType=TER Loadout[03].WeaponType=Mk82 Loadout[03].Quantity=3 Loadout[03].RackType=TER Loadout[04].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=AIM-9L Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=AIM-9L Loadout[11].Quantity=1 Loadout[16].WeaponType=GBU-12B Loadout[16].Quantity=1 Loadout[17].WeaponType=GBU-12B Loadout[17].Quantity=1 Loadout[01].WeaponType=Kfir_RP1300C Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=GBU-10B Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=GBU-10B Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=Python3 Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=Python3 Loadout[11].Quantity=1 Loadout[16].WeaponType=GBU-12B Loadout[16].Quantity=1 Loadout[17].WeaponType=GBU-12B Loadout[17].Quantity=1 [ARMED_RECON] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Kfir_RP1300C Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=Python3 Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=Python3 Loadout[11].Quantity=1 Loadout[16].WeaponType=GBU-12B Loadout[16].Quantity=1 Loadout[17].WeaponType=GBU-12B Loadout[17].Quantity=1 [Recon] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Kfir_RP1300C Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=Python3 Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=Python3 Loadout[11].Quantity=1 Loadout[12].WeaponType=CBU-52 Loadout[12].Quantity=1 Loadout[13].WeaponType=CBU-52 Loadout[13].Quantity=1 Loadout[14].WeaponType=CBU-52 Loadout[14].Quantity=1 Loadout[15].WeaponType=CBU-52 Loadout[15].Quantity=1 The same reasoning about (for the C2), is applied here for the RECON/ARMED_RECON missions. The CAS mission (ATTACK) loadout show just as they're listed...don't know how they did it, but it's kinda cool! Wrench kevin stein

IAI K'fir C2 (by the Mirage Factory) data ini: [CenterStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0,-0.8,-1.045 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=550.0 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=ISRAEL ModelNodeName=CenterPylone PylonMass=34.02 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=Kfir_RP1300C [CenterBomb1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0,-2.30,-0.907 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1000.0 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,TER AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=CenterPyloneBomb PylonMass=34.02 PylonDragArea=0.02 [CenterBomb2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0,0.95,-0.907 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1000.0 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,TER AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=CenterPylonebomb PylonMass=34.02 PylonDragArea=0.02 [LeftWingIntStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=4 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.145,-1.6,-0.805 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,FT,BFT,LGB,LGR,TLR AttachmentType=USAF,ISRAEL ModelNodeName=LeftInnerPylone PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=Kfir_RP1300C [RightWingIntStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.145,-1.6,-0.805 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,FT,BFT,LGB,LGR,TLR AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=RightInnerPylone PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=Kfir_RP1300C [LeftWingIntStation2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=6 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.145,-1.92,-0.6 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-0.85,0.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName= PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=Kfir_SRP500K NoJettisionTank=TRUE [RightWingIntStation2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=7 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.145,-1.92,-0.6 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-0.85,0.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName= PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=Kfir_SRP500K NoJettisionTank=TRUE [LeftWingIntStation3] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=8 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.145,-1.351,-0.892 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-2.5,0.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=LeftInnerPylone01 PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 [RightWingIntStation3] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=9 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.145,-1.351,-0.892 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-2.5,0.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=RightInnerPylone01 PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 [LeftOuterWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=10 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-3.006,-2.2,-0.78 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-2.5,0.0 LoadLimit=550 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=Leftpylonemissile LaunchRailNodeName=Rail_Magicleft PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= [RightOuterWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=11 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=3.006,-2.2,-0.78 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-2.5,0.0 LoadLimit=550 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=Rightpylonemissile LaunchRailNodeName=Rail_Magicright PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= // rear pyl [LeftFusePyl] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=12 StationGroupID=4 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-0.774,-2.715,-0.77 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,10.0 LoadLimit=450 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=LeftFuseP PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= [RightFusePyl] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=13 StationGroupID=4 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition= 0.774,-2.715,-0.77 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,-10.0 LoadLimit=450 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=RightFuseP PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= // front pyl [LeftFrontPyl] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=14 StationGroupID=5 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-0.878,0.968,-0.901 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,10.0 LoadLimit=450 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=Left_FrontPyl PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= [RightFrontPyl] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=15 StationGroupID=5 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.878,0.968,-0.901 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,-10.0 LoadLimit=450 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB AttachmentType=ISRAEL,USAF ModelNodeName=Right_FrontPyl PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= Loadout ini: [AirToAir] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Kfir_RP1300C Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[09].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[11].Quantity=1 [AirToAirLongRange] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Kfir_RP1300C Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=Kfir_SRP500K Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=Kfir_SRP500K Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=AIM-9L Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=AIM-9L Loadout[11].Quantity=1 [Attack] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Kfir_RP1300C Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=AIM-9L Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=AIM-9L Loadout[11].Quantity=1 Loadout[12].WeaponType=Rockeye Loadout[12].Quantity=1 Loadout[13].WeaponType=Rockeye Loadout[13].Quantity=1 Loadout[14].WeaponType=Rockeye Loadout[14].Quantity=1 Loadout[15].WeaponType=Rockeye Loadout[15].Quantity=1 [ANTI-SHIP] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Kfir_RP1300C Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=AIM-9L Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=AIM-9L Loadout[11].Quantity=1 Loadout[12].WeaponType=Mk82SE Loadout[12].Quantity=1 Loadout[13].WeaponType=Mk82SE Loadout[13].Quantity=1 Loadout[14].WeaponType=Mk82SE Loadout[14].Quantity=1 Loadout[15].WeaponType=Mk82SE Loadout[15].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Mk82 Loadout[02].Quantity=3 Loadout[02].RackType=TER Loadout[03].WeaponType=Mk82 Loadout[03].Quantity=3 Loadout[03].RackType=TER Loadout[04].WeaponType=Kfir_RP1300C Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=Kfir_RP1300C Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[11].Quantity=1 Loadout[12].WeaponType=Mk82 Loadout[12].Quantity=1 Loadout[13].WeaponType=Mk82 Loadout[13].Quantity=1 Loadout[14].WeaponType=Mk82 Loadout[14].Quantity=1 Loadout[15].WeaponType=Mk82 Loadout[15].Quantity=1 [RECON] Loadout[01].WeaponType=Kfir_RP1300C Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=AIM-9L Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=AIM-9L Loadout[11].Quantity=1 Loadout[12].WeaponType=Rockeye Loadout[12].Quantity=1 Loadout[13].WeaponType=Rockeye Loadout[13].Quantity=1 Loadout[14].WeaponType=Rockeye Loadout[14].Quantity=1 Loadout[15].WeaponType=Rockeye Loadout[15].Quantity=1 [ARMED_RECON] Loadout[02].WeaponType=Rockeye Loadout[02].Quantity=3 Loadout[02].RackType=TER Loadout[03].WeaponType=Rockeye Loadout[03].Quantity=3 Loadout[03].RackType=TER Loadout[04].WeaponType=Kfir_RP1300C Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=Kfir_RP1300C Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[10].WeaponType=AIM-9L Loadout[10].Quantity=1 Loadout[11].WeaponType=AIM-9L Loadout[11].Quantity=1 Loadout[12].WeaponType=Rockeye Loadout[12].Quantity=1 Loadout[13].WeaponType=Rockeye Loadout[13].Quantity=1 Loadout[14].WeaponType=Rockeye Loadout[14].Quantity=1 Loadout[15].WeaponType=Rockeye Loadout[15].Quantity=1 Note: for some strange reason, it was using a different loadout for ARMED_RECON than the usual ATTACK load. I finally figured out it was using the RECON load....first time I've ever seen that happen. So, this explains why for a recon mission you get all these fun little toys to play with. You can always unload them on the loadout screen, or find some targets of opportunity to expend them one Happy Hunting!! Wrench Kevin Stein

Yes indeed....as my mother taught me as a young lad, "a hangar is where you park your plane, a hanger is what I'm going to beat you with, if you don't clean up your room" Wrench kevin stein

Sweet!!!! Thanks Erik, and the Chk6 crew! Wrench kevin stein

Horray!!! Congratulations all around!!! Wrench kevin stein

IAI Nesher (by Mirage Factory) Data ini: [CenterStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.0,-1.0,-1.034 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1000.0 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=ISRAEL ModelNodeName=CenterPylonebomb PylonMass=34.02 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=M3_RP1300C [CenterBomb1] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0,-2.155,-1.034 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1000.0 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,TER AttachmentType=USAF,ISRAEL ModelNodeName=CenterPyloneBomb PylonMass=34.02 PylonDragArea=0.02 [CenterBomb2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=3 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0,0.0,-1.034 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1000.0 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,TER,CGR,RCN,ARM AttachmentType=USAF,ISRAEL ModelNodeName=CenterPylonebomb PylonMass=34.02 PylonDragArea=0.02 [LeftWingIntStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=4 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.155,-1.6,-0.805 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,FT,TER,EOGR AttachmentType=USAF,ISRAEL ModelNodeName=LeftInnerPylone PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=M3_RP1300C [RightWingIntStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=5 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.155,-1.6,-0.805 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB,RP,FT,TER,EOGR AttachmentType=USAF,ISRAEL ModelNodeName=RightInnerPylone PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=M3_RP1300C [LeftWingIntStation2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=6 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.155,-1.92,-0.6 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-0.85,0.0 //EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=USAF,ISRAEL ModelNodeName= PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=M3_SRP500C NoJettisionTank=TRUE [RightWingIntStation2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=7 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.155,-1.92,-0.6 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-0.85,0.0 //EjectVelocity=0.0,0.0,-2.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=USAF,ISRAEL ModelNodeName= PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName=M3_SRP500C NoJettisionTank=TRUE [LeftOuterWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=8 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-3.006,-2.2,-0.78 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-2.5,0.0 LoadLimit=550 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=USAF,ISRAEL ModelNodeName=Leftpylonemissile LaunchRailNodeName=Rail_Magicleft PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= [RightOuterWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=9 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=3.006,-2.2,-0.78 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-2.5,0.0 LoadLimit=550 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM AttachmentType=USAF,ISRAEL ModelNodeName=Rightpylonemissile LaunchRailNodeName=Rail_Magicright PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= [LeftOuterWingStation3] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=10 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-3.006,-3.082,-0.78 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-2.5,0.0 LoadLimit=550 AllowedWeaponClass=RP AttachmentType=USAF,ISRAEL ModelNodeName=Leftpylonemissile LaunchRailNodeName=Rail_Magicleft PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= [RightOuterWingStation3] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=11 StationGroupID=3 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=3.006,-3.082,-0.78 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-2.5,0.0 LoadLimit=550 AllowedWeaponClass=RP AttachmentType=USAF,ISRAEL ModelNodeName=Rightpylonemissile LaunchRailNodeName=Rail_Magicright PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= [LeftFusePyl] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=12 StationGroupID=4 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-0.705,-3.199,-0.752 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-2.5,25.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB AttachmentType=USAF,ISRAEL ModelNodeName=LeftFuseP PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= [RightFusePyl] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=13 StationGroupID=4 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.705,-3.199,-0.752 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-2.5,-25.0 LoadLimit=1000 AllowedWeaponClass=BOMB AttachmentType=USAF,ISRAEL ModelNodeName=RightFuseP PylonMass=72.58 PylonDragArea=0.02 FuelTankName= Loadout Ini: [AirToAir] Loadout[06].WeaponType=M3_SRP500C Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=M3_SRP500C Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[09].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[09].Quantity=1 [AirToAirLongRange] Loadout[01].WeaponType=M3_RP1300C Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=M3_SRP500C Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=M3_SRP500C Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[09].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[09].Quantity=1 [Attack] Loadout[01].WeaponType=M3_RP1300C Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[04].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[09].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[12].WeaponType=Rockeye Loadout[12].Quantity=1 Loadout[13].WeaponType=Rockeye Loadout[13].Quantity=1 [Anti-Ship] Loadout[02].WeaponType=Mk82 Loadout[02].Quantity=3 Loadout[02].RackType=TER Loadout[03].WeaponType=Mk82 Loadout[03].Quantity=3 Loadout[03].RackType=TER Loadout[04].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=LAU-3A Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[09].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[02].WeaponType=Mk82 Loadout[02].Quantity=3 Loadout[02].RackType=TER Loadout[03].WeaponType=Mk82 Loadout[03].Quantity=3 Loadout[03].RackType=TER Loadout[04].WeaponType=Mk82 Loadout[04].Quantity=3 Loadout[04].RackType=TER Loadout[05].WeaponType=Mk82 Loadout[05].Quantity=3 Loadout[05].RackType=TER Loadout[08].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[09].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[12].WeaponType=Mk82 Loadout[12].Quantity=1 Loadout[13].WeaponType=Mk82 Loadout[13].Quantity=1 [sEAD] Loadout[04].WeaponType=LAU-10A Loadout[04].Quantity=1 Loadout[05].WeaponType=LAU-10A Loadout[05].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[09].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Loadout[12].WeaponType=Rockeye Loadout[12].Quantity=1 Loadout[13].WeaponType=Rockeye Loadout[13].Quantity=1 [Recon] Loadout[01].WeaponType=M3_RP1300C Loadout[01].Quantity=1 Loadout[06].WeaponType=M3_SRP500C Loadout[06].Quantity=1 Loadout[07].WeaponType=M3_SRP500C Loadout[07].Quantity=1 Loadout[08].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[08].Quantity=1 Loadout[09].WeaponType=Shafrir2 Loadout[09].Quantity=1 Please note, these are IDF loadouts ... Argentine Neshers are, again, one of those special cases and will be handled in due time. Enjoy! Wrench kevin stein