Cliff7600

Contemporary to the F-111D there were already Wild Weasels aircrafts. Imo, unless you have specific weapons (HARM, Maverick AGM), forget about SEAD and focus on strikes and CAS is logical. Good luck with the Aardvark!

Sure Dave! You can have all the positive vibes from me. They're strong enough to cross the ocean. Good luck to her.

Welcome to DiD Cocas! That was the typical first mission ever with a DiD pilot. Good luck! Yes Lt. the Sabres are a big concern and the only F-105 I shot at were slow. I never saw one of them since, too fast! I have to find something to break from the fight when Bingo fuel, because if I run away safely with full AB, my wingmen get caught and shot. 6th mission 1 Esk. 39 PML, Kluczewo AB – MiG-19P 10/31/62 Take off : 15.15 – Landing : 16.50 Target : Diepholz, Sweep 4 Aircrafts We’re paying back. Flying to Diepholz was a long trip from Kluczewo. We engaged four F-100. They fought a weird way, different than we saw till then, faster and higher. We learned later that they were French F-100. It was 4 vs 4 and it took long before I shot down my opponent. 2Lt Pawlikowski didn’t win but punched out and was rescued suffering few injuries. I joined up to Capt Wojciechowski and shot down his adversary. We were low on fuel so we set a course to the east but the enemies back up hunted Lt Grzech and shot him down near Bückeburg. Jan is safe. Running out of fuel, I made an emergency landing at Finow AB while Capt Wojciechowski RTBed without problem. I got promoted to Lt grade, and our troops are in Nürnberg. 7th mission 1 Esk. 39 PML, Kluczewo AB – MiG-19P 11/01/62 Take off : 15.15 – Landing : 15.43 Target : Gross Dölln, CAP 2 aircrafts, #2 : 2Lt Maciej Surma What a failure!!! The mission was to perform a patrol near to the frontier, almost at home. We intercept two F-100 and a difficult dogfight went to a tie. Bingo fuel, we RTBed but one of the Super Sabre followed us and jumped on us while we were on approach. I was Winchester so I wasn’t able to do anything but seeing the bastard shooting down 2Lt Maciej Surma who didn’t survive. It’s our first human loss and it was right here at home. 8th mission 1 Esk. 39 PML, Kluczewo AB – MiG-19P 11/03/62 Take off : 03.23 – Landing : 04.00 Target : Sperenberg area, Intercept 8 aircrafts for a major scramble take off. We intercepted an 8 Mirage formation but they were protected by Sabres. I saw machinegun tracers all around my cockpit and had to break before get hit. Pawlikowski took out 2 sabres and Capt Wojciechowski one of them. While I was trying to catch up the Mirage without success, 2Lt Sporny won a kill against a Mirage but that wasn’t enough to break their assault. They bombed the air base and I wasn’t able to shoot at them. I didn’t see them in the dark despite of my radar. We set a course back home but 2Lt karol Surma got shot down and is wounded, Capt Wojciechowski was shot down too but is safe. I was so upset I decided to chase the last enemy fighters in the area, Maj Wiza and his #4 went with me but we were low on fuel and we went back home. Capt Krol had been killed right at the beginning of the fight. The squadron will leave Kluczewo AB and move in Germany at Rechlin Larz AB.

Even with the WOE bug, the pilot is still alive and ready for new campaigns. Well done Lt! 4th mission 1 Esk. 39 PML, Kluczewo AB – MiG-19P 10/29/62 Take off : 14.23 – Landing : 15.25 Target : Hof, Sweep 8 Aircrafts, 1st flight : 2Lt Jedrek Wisniewski, 2nd flight : Maj Marek Wiza Near Hof we engaged a 4 ships enemy bombers formation. They were B-57s. Maj Wiza shot down two of them and Lt Olszewski and 2Lt Pawlikowski one each. We were leaving the area when some enemy fighters appeared, close to friendly bombers. So we engaged them and after a low level dogfight I shot down an F-100 Super Sabre. Something went wrong during the second egress because Lt Olszewski was alone and chased by the F-100s. They shot him down over Gera before we could help him. He was rescued and is safe. 5th mission 1 Esk. 39 PML, Kluczewo AB – MiG-19P 10/30/62 Take off : 15.23 – Landing : 16.15 Target : Altes Lager, CAP 4 Aircrafts (no drop tanks, we’re trying to save them) We performed a patrol over friendly territory. Ground controllers told us to engage the formation as will so we went to the east of Altes Lager and we find two Super Sabres. In fact, I was alone, the others didn’t follow me when I broke up and dived. I was behind the US fighters and they were flying steady, they didn’t saw me yet. I got close and shot the leader down with a long burst of 30mm. The wingman broke up and Pawlikowski and I tried to take him out. He was a good pilot and we never managed to get a fire solution. Something was wrong and I decided to let my wingmen deal with the F-100 and tried to intercept the other reported enemy formation. I never was able to catch them up and we finally went home, not without problem from the lonely F-100 but we did the egress much better this time. Everybody RTBed and I was quite low on fuel. I didn’t choose the right enemies to engage, four F-105 fighter-bombers did their strike without being intercepted. But we learned that the USAF lost an Ace today and as I am the only pilot who claims a victory it seems that I am that Ace-killer. Our troops are in Bremen and Capt Wojciechowski has been rescued and he’s back to duty! That means that we didn’t lost anybody and that will strengthen up our fighting spirit!

Precisely Lt.! It's something I never managed to do with the F-104, barely did with the F-4 and began to use with the F-106. What you describe is exactly what happened. Unless I only have 2 X 30mm cannons, it's a P variant. So far I think it's quite efficient. DiD experience makes you learn, that's something cool about the idea. the pilot is Jedrek Wisniewski, 3 missions 6 kills, I'm proud of him ;) And the MiG-19 is really great to fly, my favourite from the Red side.

Yes Lt it's bad luck but now I'll be more cautious when performing a landing approach. It was such a simple mistake that costed one of the twelve planes of the squadron! Slarti you're right, it's a personal mod and it doesn't work perfect with the radio messages "Red Crown, Olds lead passing WP3 / Asp lead, Red Crown copy". When that bug is repeated I can't help starting to laugh xD The cool stuff is that I added more aircrafts I like (Canberras Mk2/Mk8, F-105F, MiG-17PFU, Lim-6R, MiG-19PM Czek, Polish and East German, specific skins...) I used the NF4 campaign. During a previous attempt I had Günther Rall on my six! 3rd mission 1 Esk. 39 PML, Kluczewo AB – MiG-19P 10/28/62 Take off : 13.23 – Landing : 14.27 Target : Wunstorf, Escort Il-28 bombers 4 Aircrafts With Capt Krol as #3 we went to Wersdorf to protect friendly flights bombing Wunstorf AB. We were on time 5 nm ahead of the strike flight. Closing to enemy fighters we dived from 5700m to the deck to gain speed and started wide turns to engage them without taking too much risks. It worked. Capt Krol shot down an F-100 Super Sabre and after a low level-foggy weather-high speed dogfight I win on another F-100. I don’t know what my opponent was trying to do but he was too low to gain speed and while he was avoiding ground obstacles I shot at him and took him out. The pilot ejected. There were big explosions from the bombs striking the ground targets and I was able to see the big yellow flames through the fog. There were also some F-102 Delta Dagger and I thought I was less in danger close to them than far because of their missiles weaponry. The F-102 is not an agile adversary and I quickly get a 6 position on one of them. The problem was I could see clearly somebody behind me and I wonder if the guy before me wasn’t just tricking me to give an opportunity shot to his wingman. I’ll never know, I shot him down and did a tight break. I went to the deck and realize I was flying over the enemy base. I decided to pass above some smoking bomb craters thinking that there won’t be any AAA right there and I was wrong! But they didn’t hit me. I called for the others to join up and turned to the east, gaining some altitude. I saw a lonely plane above me, heading to the west. I wondered if it was friendly, and when I saw it was a delta wing shape I knew that it wasn’t. I did a split-S and tried to catch him. I realized later that I forgot to turn on the radar to chase him. It took few minutes to catch him up and I saw it wasn’t an US Delta Dagger, but a Mirage. The guy was flying steady and the Mirage exploded like a bomb when I opened fire, no chance to survive… We finally got back home and I was pretty relieved to land without problem because the weather was quite bad and I saw the runway reaching only 100m high (~300ft). 2Lt Surma got his plane hit by ground fire and Capt Krol damaged an F-102 after his victory on the F-100. It’s the first time I shoot down an enemy fighter during a dogfight, to me the victory against the F-100 today means more than the others.

Hi Rob, you were talking about the A-6 roll rate ;) 2nd mission 1 Esk. 39 PML, Kluczewo AB – MiG-19P 10/27/62 Take off : 12.39 – Landing : 13.21 Target : Braunschweig, Sweep 4 Aircrafts Bad luck today. We flew to Braunschweig and we intercepted 4 Canberra bombers over the battle field, they were attacking our troops with rocket pods. Maciej Surma shot down two of them but Capt Wojciechowski collided with his one. I tried to shot down mine using the little ORO rocket pods but I finally took him out with a very sharp burst of 30mm. We RTBed and while I was on finale I suddenly lost lift. I tried to push the throttle to the max but the plane was falling, it was too late. I hit the ground and I think I broke the left gear, the plane bounced and I saw in the rear mirrors that I was on fire. I ejected and lost the plane. K….! There was no cross wind and the crew chief told me that he thought the rocket pods drag made the plane stall sooner than I expected. I should have extend the flaps sooner. We destroyed 4 enemy bombers but Capt Wojciechowski is reported MIA and I lost my plane.

You cannot imagine how difficult it was to achieve the first mission. Red Thunder 1962, Jedrek Wisniewski is flying with the "bad guys", a Polish MiG-19P Farmer B. It's easier than the Spad but I don't think it will last long. 1st mission 1 Esk. 39 PML, Kluczewo AB – MiG-19P 10/26/62 Take off : 11.39 – Landing : 12.46 Target : Bad Hersfeld, Sweep 8 Aircrafts, 1st flight : 2Lt Jedrek Wisniewski, 2nd flight : Cap Boleslaw Wojciechowski We reached Bad Hersfeld and the ground control operator told us to keep the course to jump on an enemy flight. There were low and apparently were not trying to escape. I caught one of them and it was quite fast, it was a F-105. While I was trying to get close, he straffed our ground troups so I decided to quickly get rid of him. I shot a burst from distance and he started to smoke and dive to the ground. We joined up gaining some altitude then we saw another lonely F-105. He didn’t saw us and I shot him down. Cap Wojciechowski and 2Lt Surma had a victory against the two others F-105.

I do agree with you Lt, DiD flying mode is better than anything. Now I'm trying to improve my skill because I just can't survive. We'll see... Welcome Cocas! Fuel and ammos set on hard. Landing and FM normal or hard, that's my advice. Good luck!

Scary! I guess you won't do that everyday

View File F-4E Karpada for WOI (TMF model/TW skin) This model illustrates the F-4E Phantoms that the Israel Defense Force/Air Force received in October 1973 during the Yom Kippour War. Credits go to: - The MIRAGE FACTORY - THIRDWIRE Thank you Wrench and Sony Tuckson! It'll be better if you install the Mirage Factory Weapon Pack for WOI, available at CombatAce: http://combatace.com...oi-august-2008/ Only for WOI It could work with SFP1, WOV and WOE installs but it won't be as good unless you do some editing. Freeware only Submitter Cliff7600 Submitted 10/17/2010 Category F-4 Phantom II

Ok, thank you very much Wrench! It was the best thing to do and it worked perfectly I'll try to release the result...

Hi (I still don't know how to create decals. I don't have Photoshop, I tried with Gimp, Paint.net, I tried decals tutorials, I checked the Knowledge Base : nothing shows up) Is there somebody kind enough to create a set of serial numbers for the Israel Defense Force F-4 Kurnass? I ask for tail numbers prefixed with 3. For example 300, 301, 302, 303, 304 ... I tried to modify the stock decals but I failed. I don't know how to create the number file.LST neither. Thx

I've been shot down by a Hunter on the 4th mission, pilot killed. Too much dogfight, not enough safety... but that was fun

I went back in Europe for something really different. It's a France vs UK campaign flying a F-47N (what if ) 1st, 2nd and 3rd missions EC 4/20, St André de l’Eure – F-47N Thunderbolt 05/29/60 Take off : 11.50 – Landing : 13.16 Target : Manston, Strike Tuna 11 : 2Lt Charles Bréty / Tuna 12 : 2Lt Amédé Leblanc Report : We flew to Manston and our target was the runway. My wingman missed but I dropped my two 800lbs bombs right in the middle of the runway. While we RTBed I worried about fuel consumption because we didn’t load some auxiliary tanks, but everything went OK. Anyway we tried to intercept some Canberra bombers on their way back but they were much faster than us… 10’ later Take off : 13.26 – Landing : 14.51 Target : Maidstone, Strike Tiger 11 : 2Lt Charles Bréty / Tiger 12 : 2Lt Hector Goujon Report : The planes were quickly reloaded and refueled and we went to destroy the Maidstone railroad station. On our way we formed up with two Skyraiders and together we joined the target area. It was pretty lousy, I missed and wasted the 500lbs bombs and we finally destroy the building because we had some new narrow 250lbs bombs that can be loaded at the HVAR stations. As soon as the job was done we tried to rescue the AD-4s that were calling for help but we were too late. I tried to engage a slow Hunter fighter but when I was winning on him a F-86 Sabre Dog overtook me and hit the Hunter with his 20mm cannons. The Brit had his engine damaged and was loosing speed. I shot a long burst, the pilot ejected safely. 22’ later Take off : 15.13 – Landing : 16.43 Target : Worthy Down, Recon Gopher 11 : 2Lt Charles Bréty / Gopher 12 : Maj Gaston Casenobe Report : A simple Recce mission. We learned that the Skyraiders that we escorted had been shot down. And someone gave me the credit of the F-86D victory over the Hunter. The right thing should be to share it, half a victory for both of us…

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About the Min/Max Positions, that should be helpful too : http://combatace.com...in-max-extents/ or / and http://combatace.com/files/file/5125-minmaxextentposition-exporter/

I cannot do the files if I don't have a LOD file, an OUT file, the identity numbers of the animations and the Min/Max position of the meshes (because I don't have 3DSMax, I know it sucks) About the LOD file, have a look at the ThirdWire.com site http://www.thirdwire.com/downloads_tools.htm I think that's what you need to create the LOD file used in the game. Ask to an admin for proper advices, they are modders. If nobody else with required skills shows up, I can do it but I need all the stuffs that goes with the 3D model.

Cool AARs! After several attempts, I just don't survive the 2nd mission, even in a jet... Take off/mission/landing/take off/mission/DEAD! that's the pattern. Good luck and keep the motor running

What do you mean "to make units"? What do you need to make it fly? If it's just a flight model or a data.ini file I can do that, but I don't have the 3DSMax software so my abilities are quite limited, just file editing...

I saw him flying at an airshow 2 months ago.

Updated The landing gears and fuel tanks are better and I tried a new flight model. Any comments are welcome! Cliff

Salut J'ai mis à jour le dossier Data.ini du Mirage IV pour ThirdWire 1ère génération. Ca devrait être bientôt disponible. J'ai sérieusement bricolé le modèle de vol, si un ingénieur en aéronautique voit ça il meurt de rire... Les infos techniques un peu pointues comme la vitesse de décrochage ou la capacité de chaque réservoir interne sont difficilement accessibles. (même si apparemment l'engin ne "décrochait" pas vraiment, il s'enfonçait de l'arrière) Après faut que les vrais chiffres soient compatibles avec le jeu, pas gagné... Si vous avez quelque chose faites moi signe. Merci De même si vous utilisez le modèle et que vous avez des remarques, ça m'intéresse. Cliff11

D8 !!! Very cool job ...if you're able to do it