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Russo, thanks, rail height works fine for the inner pylons. But, for some reason PylonL02 is missing - it is not listed in the last OUT file and it is missing in the lod as well (could not find it with the HEX editor). I think I didn't get ianh755 right the first time, sorry... From the OUT file: Left_Outer_Wing [242 polys, 247 verts] '24 - Default' Left_Aileron [93 polys, 100 verts] '24 - Default' Port_Nav_Light [10 polys, 14 verts] 'Material #225' Right_Outer_Wing [248 polys, 254 verts] '24 - Default' Starb_Nav_Light [10 polys, 14 verts] '10 - Default' Right_Aileron [93 polys, 100 verts] '24 - Default' PylonR02 [78 polys, 126 verts] '5 - Default'

Guys, I think you are missing to edit the Hawk_T1_data.ini file: [LeftWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=1 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.099,0.450,-1.087 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=800.0 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,RCKT,RP,BOMB,FT AttachmentType=NATO,USN,USAF,UK ModelNodeName=PylonL PylonMass=40.0 PylonDragArea=0.03 FuelTankName=Tank100_MK51 LaunchRailNodeName=IRM_Rail_L LaunchRailHeight=??? <- don't have the exact height yet [RightWingStation] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=2 StationGroupID=1 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.099,0.450,-1.087 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=800.0 AllowedWeaponClass=IRM,RCKT,RP,BOMB,FT AttachmentType=NATO,USN,USAF,UK ModelNodeName=PylonR PylonMass=40.0 PylonDragArea=0.03 FuelTankName=Tank100_MK51 LaunchRailNodeName=IRM_Rail_R LaunchRailHeight=??? <- don't have the exact height yet I have tested the lod with the above edit to the data.ini and it works OK (i.e. rails for IRM and just pylon for bombs), just need to find the correct height figure. Once ready, I will post it here, unless someone beats me to it...

Thanks for the update, much appreciated! If you are still on the subject and wish to handle that, maybe cutting the inner pylons mesh in 2 parts, separating the main pylon from the IRM launch rail, would be an improvement as well. This way the IRM rail can be made to show only when IRM are loaded and when bombs or RP - just the main pylon will be there. Just a thought...

http://combatace.com/files/file/11304-aermacchi-mb-339a-pan/ http://combatace.com/files/file/12063-aermacchi-mb-339a-for-sf2/

Actually, I think I know where you can find a tank with the right angle of the fins. Check this mod by Florian: http://combatace.com/files/file/5305-tornado-ids/ As you said, the rest is just skinning

What kind of tank are you looking for?

Try this: make new fuel stations for the new tanks you want, but keep the existing as well. Keep the same station group ID for the new stations. If you do not want the built in tanks to appear in the weapons selection screen, just delete Tornado 2250_torn_tank from the FuelTankName=Tornado 2250_torn_tank entry, but the keep the text "FuelTankName=". Alternatively, you can keep the FuelTankName=Tornado 2250_torn_tank entry, but make the station a specific weapon station with some nonexisting entry. So, something like this: [LeftInnerWingStationWet] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=17 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.350,-1.434,-0.670 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2500 AllowedWeaponClass=FT, AttachmentType=NATO,W_Germany ModelNodeName=pylon_inner_left ;PylonMass= ;PylonDragArea= LaunchRailNodeName= MinExtentPosition= MaxExtentPosition= MovingPylon=TRUE RotatingPylon=FALSE FuelTankNodeName=torn_2250_tankL FuelTankName= //FuelTankName=Tornado 2250_torn_tank [RightInnerWingStationWet] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=18 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.350,-1.434,-0.670 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2500 AllowedWeaponClass=FT, AttachmentType=NATO,W_Germany ModelNodeName=pylon_inner_right ;PylonMass= ;PylonDragArea= LaunchRailNodeName= MinExtentPosition= MaxExtentPosition= MovingPylon=TRUE RotatingPylon=FALSE FuelTankNodeName=torn_2250_tankR FuelTankName= //FuelTankName=Tornado 2250_torn_tank [LeftInnerWingStationWet2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=19 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=-2.350,-1.434,-0.670 AttachmentAngles=0.0,0.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2500 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=NATO,W_Germany ModelNodeName=pylon_inner_left ;PylonMass= ;PylonDragArea= LaunchRailNodeName= MinExtentPosition= MaxExtentPosition= MovingPylon=TRUE RotatingPylon=FALSE FuelTankNodeName= FuelTankName=Tank1500_Tornado [RightInnerWingStationWet2] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=20 StationGroupID=2 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=2.350,-1.434,-0.670 AttachmentAngles=0.0,-3.0,0.0 LoadLimit=2500 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=NATO,W_Germany ModelNodeName=pylon_inner_right ;PylonMass= ;PylonDragArea= LaunchRailNodeName= MinExtentPosition= MaxExtentPosition= MovingPylon=TRUE RotatingPylon=FALSE FuelTankNodeName= FuelTankName=Tank1500_Tornado

And in Bulgarian too

The outer pylons are there only on the MiG-17 and deffinitely missing on the MiG-17F and MiG-17PF. So, for MiG-17 one can either choose to edit the ini and still use the stock pylons or go for Spillone104's tank. For the later models - 17F and 17PF, only Spillone104's tank with built-in pylon does the job.

Well, I am a bit of a maniac about aircrafts loaded with drop tanks So I spent some time looking into the issue and here are 2 solutions: Solution 1 - go get the new drop tank by Spillone104 Solution 2: - do not Spillone104's tank, but keep the stock one; - extract the MiG-17_DATA.ini, open it; - go to the weapons stations entries and edit as follows: [LeftTankStation] ........ ModelNodeName=LeftWing_OuterPylon <-- it exists in the model, but is missed (intentionally or not) in the data.ini [RightTankStation] ........ ModelNodeName=RightWing_OuterPylon <-- it exists in the model, but is missed (intentionally or not) in the data.ini Now, when you select the stock drop tanks, these will appear loaded on a pylon, not just hanging on a fuel pipe and side supports. P.S. Spillone104, sorry I noticed this just now... Had it been earlier I would not have bothered you biuld another drop tank. I am sorry!

Well that's just the fuel tube and side supports, but the pylon is missing.

It is a possibility, but that way the probe will always be loaded on the frame. May be the modder wanted to be able to select the IFR probe in the loadout screen and fly with it or without it...

The IFR probe is being loaded on the plane as a weapon (FT I think), so it can be flown with it or without it. The problem is that the aircraft nose is listed as node name for the IFR probe.

I think the problem is here: // IFR [Tornado-IFR] SystemType=WEAPON_STATION StationID=16 StationGroupID=8 StationType=EXTERNAL AttachmentPosition=0.52,3.71,0.05 AttachmentAngles=0.00,-1.00,0.00 LoadLimit=2050 AllowedWeaponClass=FT AttachmentType=ITALY,NATO ModelNodeName=Nose PylonMass= PylonDragArea= LaunchRailNodeName= MinExtentPosition= MaxExtentPosition= FuelTankName=Tornado-IFR_MG NoJettisionTank=TRUE Try deleting "nose" from the ModelNodeName.

Hi, hope that helps: http://www.simmerspaintshop.com/forums/f37-photoshop-tutorials/making-outlined-numbers-used-luftwaffe-651/

It is fine with me

Me too I am patiently waiting for your Su-22UM3 Please share this one as well.

I was looking the other day for detail sets for a Mig-25P model kit and I came accross some interesting pictures of a 3D model of the exhaust from a producer of resin conversion sets. Here is a link: http://www.click2detail.com/products-details.php?pro_id=161 Same company produces the long exhaust pipes for MiG-25R, RBS, RBT, BM types and similar pictures of a 3D model of the exhaust available here: http://www.click2detail.com/products-details.php?pro_id=163 May be it will be helpful...

Drop tanks part of the model?

Hi Centurion-1, may I draw your attention to the shape of the nose cone, not sure if it is an issue of the preview or the model itself:

A much needed success for the Rafale after so many losses... Without it, production of the type would end in a few years.

I think it is because different settings were used for making the base MF MiG-23M/MF model and for making the parts to turn the base model into a MiG-23UB.

Thanks! Great, I was looking for a Swiss Mirage. From pictures I have seen, Mirage IIIS did not have the dopler radar under the nose. Luckily the MF model has that radar as a separate mesh, and I managed to remove it easily with an ini edit (thanks to the fellow simmer who showed us how to do it). Thanks again!

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