So what do you fly?

[MAKO69 186]

I thought the flameout was due to her adding to much power to soon it was an F-14A which had the Pratt & Whitney TF30 which didn't like sudden movements of the throttle forward, which could cause flameouts. As I recall the LSO were asking here to add power on approach she was below glidepath.

Edited August 9, 2008 by MAKO69

[column5 62]

I thought the flameout was due to her adding to much power to soon it was an F-14A which had the Pratt & Whitney TF30 which didn't like sudden movements of the throttle forward, which could cause flameouts. As i recall they wer asking here to add power on approach she was below glidepath.

 

What I have read is that moving the throttle too aggressively caused compressor stalls (basically, turbulence around the compressor blades), which then caused the flame-outs. At high altitude it was reccomended that the throttle not be moved at all during maneuvering--I think that may even be in the NATOPS.

[gbnavy61 1]

What I have read is that moving the throttle too aggressively caused compressor stalls (basically, turbulence around the compressor blades), which then caused the flame-outs. At high altitude it was reccomended that the throttle not be moved at all during maneuvering--I think that may even be in the NATOPS.

 

Additional info on the Hultgreen (I believe I misspelled it before) mishap:

 

Apparently she was correcting for an overshooting start by sidesliping - IIRC that was definitely not recommended due to the tendency of the TF-30's to stall. The port engine stalled as a result of the sideslip. She then tried to waveoff from the landing and went to high power on the starboard engine while pulling up too much on the nose - probably distracted by being at low altitude and trying to respond to the compressor stall. By pulling up too much, she stalled and the yaw produced by the starboard engine aggravated the stall causing the departure at low altitude.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxWb68Wk3bY -A better clip w/ LSO audio. He waved her off pretty early.

 

I'm not sure of the specific procedures, I've never gotten hold of an F-14A NATOPS, but that doesn't sound unreasonable.

 

Compressor stalls are aerodynamic stalls just like a wing stall. The blades are at a fixed angle relative to the shafts in the engine, so the only thing that can change is the airflow into the face of the blades. Disruptions in the airflow caused by maneuvering may lead to a compressor stall usually coupled with high power settings (high RPM) or just a rapid application of power (from low to high RPM). A major compressor stall is usually signified by a loud bang, or bangs as the pressure tries to equalize. The stall basically lowers pressure in the front of the engine so that the pressure farther aft in the engine is higher. As we all know from wings flying - high pressure wants to go to low pressure - so, the flow through the engine actually reverses and tries to come out the front. Not what the engine was designed to do. Not to mention, the engine can overspeed (RPMs) and overtemp itself during this violent episode leading to damage and fatigue of components.

Edited August 9, 2008 by gbnavy61

[charlielima 328]

SPADS, Cruds, Scooters, Thuds, Phabulous Phantoms, Intruders and Black Ponies in that order. Ah, FJs too but I don't know where to rank them since I either fly the snot out of them or not at all.

:ph34r: CL

[ironroad 218]

Not to sound completely ignorant, but whats the difference in the F-14A/B/D?

I noticed that the D doesnt have the winglets/and is faster, but other than that, nothing...

 

http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-detail.htm

 

Everything you could ever want to know about the Turkey

[MigHound 0]

With 260 birds in my WOE installation, it's tough to pick, just one aircraft.

 

I'd have to say, my favourite all around American "do-it-all, everything" jet would have to be Dels' F-23A Black Widow II.

That bird should have been elected winner of the ATF competition on, just on looks, alone. But, hey, what do I know.

 

I have been in love with the Tornado, for as long as it has been in service, in Euro forces.

Amokfloo's IDS model, is a great bird for the ground pounder missions, as is Dave's F-15E/I/K series.

 

But... as I say there are nearly a couple dozen others, I like to play with.

[Erwin_Hans 6]

For me...Vipers...

[Bulldog 0]

I was flying MiG-21s a lot until the Flanker, MF F-16s and the F/A-18F showed up. In WOV I still like flying the Thud.

[Bulldog 0]

http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-detail.htm

 

Everything you could ever want to know about the Turkey

 

Great site, thanks for the link!

[+hgbn 91]

Any aircraft from the 1950-1970 timeframe. Like the good old warhorses. newer Aircrafts are fine looking and flies nicely but dont have the soul that I like. IF I have to pick one all time favourite it must be a F-4 Phantom II nearly 75 % of all mission I fly is F-4

[fougamagister 24]

I usually fly the "bad" aircrafts, with bad missiles or bad performances to be proud of shooting the "good" ones

[Bulldog 0]

An addition to my last post..the no.1 reason I got this sim series was the fact I could fly the F-4. So I have to say I will always have a attraction for that bird. For it's time, it just rocks!

[Guest Stiglr]

An addition to my last post..the no.1 reason I got this sim series was the fact I could fly the F-4. So I have to say I will always have a attraction for that bird. For it's time, it just rocks!

 

For it's time??? The "Double Ugly" Phantom was kicking butt and taking names for over 40 years...and that's just in the US inventory!! There's hardly been a time since 1958 when it wasn't in service somewhere!!! :)

[bradders 0]

English Electric Lightning a 60's jet that could still out peform many a modern jet followed by the agressive looking i mean buiness F4 Phantom then F100 Sabre

Edited August 14, 2008 by bradders

[MAKO69 186]

Everyday driver '02 Toyota Pickup.'01 Vette on the better days.

 

A-4 Scooter all variants, F-4 Phantom all variants, A-1 Skyraider, F-18 Hornet/Superbug

 

I like dogfighting w/older jets US AV8A/B-UK Harrier, F-104, F-100 those planes will turn and bight you "HARD" if you pull and whip them to much.

Edited August 17, 2008 by MAKO69

[Echarlie 0]

Mostly F-4B/C Phantom is the reason I bought this series to begin with. Nothing like tryin to kill those twisting and turning Mig-17's with a 9B

 

F-14 when I dont feel like takin on much of a challenge.

 

F-15C When I feel like just flyin around an killin s**t. Although it is my alltime fav, its just a bit too easy.

 

Just finished reading "Going Downtown" and "Thud Ridge" so im thinkin about puttin some time in the 105.

 

EagleCharlie

[Heck 496]

Just finished reading "Going Downtown" and "Thud Ridge" so im thinkin about puttin some time in the 105.

 

EagleCharlie

 

Definately! I've had some of my most fun missions streaking along just above the weeds in a Thud after a strike, watching the Sam launches whacking other flights and my flight members. Have to remember to tell them to rejoin sometime...

[pablo10692 4]

F-4E - Strike

F-5E - Escort

F-14A - Intercept

A-4E - Strike

AMX - Strike

[Lexx_Luthor 57]

I fly what nobody flies, and I fly what I'm not supposed to fly.

[Stick 773]

Well I consider the F-15 retro, so that does it for me.

But I think i said that already

[Guest pfunkmusik]

My preferences run to the A-model Hornet.

 

pfunk

[spriggs 0]

F-100d, Hawker Hunter, F-5E, F-15, F-22, SU-33 <3

[Outlaw7 0]

When I want to tear it up A-10; lotsa firepower

 

dogfights Eurofighter, Gripen, Viper, eagle really nimble and turn on a dime

 

Vietnam dogfight F-4E-love to chase those migs and the Thud for strike with AAA on heavy; like the stuff coming at you from all angle!

[eccles 10]

I love the Mig-21 because I get so many parachute rides after a F-4 Phantom blows my tail off with a Sparrow missile.

Fond of the F-4 though and the Crusader and the Corsair.

 

Now excuse me while I adjust my parachute harness for my next adventure. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I can see my house from up here and whats my old lady doing with the milkman?

 

love you all...................................eccles.

[jjddoo 1]

I love the modern ones - F-22's and F-35's! Waiting for that MiG-29 download to finish for the FrankenSim so I can go blow their tails off!