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hey EricJ and FC, here is some extra motivaton to keep the growler:

 

Today was Electronic Awareness Appreciation Day at Andrews AFB. The base hosted a sort of petting zoo for high-tech jamming systems. I noticed a Boeing EA-18G parked on the side, and struck up a conversation with the pilot.

 

As we chatted about interference cancellation systems, I couldn't help but notice an odd decal decorating the side of the fuselage. I asked the pilot: What's that aircraft decal on the fuselage?

 

"That's an F-22," he said.

 

ea18g_f22kill-thumb-445x333.jpg

 

Well, why is it there?

 

"Because this is the EA-18G that killed an F-22," he explained.

 

Um, really?

 

Alas, after that bombshell, the conversation quickly dried up. I did learn the EA-18G kill was courtesy of a well-timed AIM-120 AMRAAM shot. And I learned the simulated combat exercise took place at Nellis AFB. How the EA-18G escort jammer got the shot, and whether its jamming system played a role in the incident were not questions the pilot was prepared to answer.

 

For the spotters, the aircraft pictured above is EA-1, the first of two Lot 27 F/A-18Fs converted into flying prototypes for the EA-18G program.

 

 

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewl...-.html#comments

 

 

:blink:

Go Navy! Beat the Air Force! :rofl:

Edited by Silverbolt

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Since it was an exercise, we don't know for sure. We only know in the rules of the exercise they deemed that shot to have scored. Was the F-22 allowed to go "all out" against a Growler?

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There was another exercise I heard about on Alert5.com that a VFA-11 pilot managed to get his gun pipper on a F-22 as well. More than likely the F-22 was OPFOR for the air to air exercise and the F-22 lost. Kinda how the Navy puts "GO NAVY BEAT ARMY" quite proudly on their aircraft. Next time that happens it's going to be "GO ARMY BEAT NAVY" on a Navy jet. But honestly, given the Army's record...

 

And it's always good to have inter-service rivalry sometimes, keeps the motivation up :good:

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the story that I heard on those (about fortyfifth hand....) was that the Raptor came down into a furball and simply didn't see that other guy coming up from behind.

 

pretty much the rule from decades past that it is the guy you didn't see that bagged your @$$.....

 

but since the exchange rate was somewhere in the hundred to one, I wouldn't put the Raptor out to pasteur just yet.

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By Dave

 

That's kinda pathetic when you're painting a simulated kill marking on your plane...

 

 

Seems we are not the first forum members to see this

Edited by macelena

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"By Dave

 

That's kinda pathetic when you're painting a simulated kill marking on your plane..."

 

 

:rofl::haha::good:

 

you've got that right!

 

:good:

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That's kinda pathetic when you're painting a simulated kill marking on your plane...

 

Well it's about all the action the air to air guys are gonna get for the next few years so might as well make them feel special! You should see the number of mission markings on the UK's Harrier fleet, they're going to need bigger aircraft to paint them on soon!

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Well it's about all the action the air to air guys are gonna get for the next few years so might as well make them feel special! You should see the number of mission markings on the UK's Harrier fleet, they're going to need bigger aircraft to paint them on soon!

 

Bah, they need to get creative! Do you think Erich Hartmann had 352 kill markings painted on his bird? :rolleyes:

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Bah, they need to get creative! Do you think Erich Hartmann had 352 kill markings painted on his bird? :rolleyes:

 

in Roman Numerals!!

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"By Dave

 

That's kinda pathetic when you're painting a simulated kill marking on your plane

 

 

Any plane getting a simulated kill on a raptor is noteworthy. If An EA-6B were able to do this to a phantom

in the 80's you can sure bet it would sport "simulated kill markings"

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in Roman Numerals!!

 

You know that I meant 352 individual kill markings.

 

 

As for kill marks, reminds me of the story of the EF-111 which was credited with a kill of a Mirage F1 during Desert Storm... quite a feat these days for an unarmed plane! I bet that plane has a kill mark on it! :flyer:

Edited by TX3RN0BILL

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Any plane getting a simulated kill on a raptor is noteworthy. If An EA-6B were able to do this to a phantom

in the 80's you can sure bet it would sport "simulated kill markings"

 

Key word being simulated.

 

Although I am one to talk, I got a freaking ARCOM in 1998 for after killing 7 T-80s, taking a hit on my tank, doing self aid and buddy and on my loader, dismounting and then with my loader working our way behind an 8th T-80 and destroying it with AT-4s then killing the crew of a BRDM AT-5 with our M-4s. Of course this was all at NTC using MILES gear. If you think I'm going to do that crap in a real situation, I'll sell you a beach house in Arizona..

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You know that I meant 352 individual kill markings.

 

 

As for kill marks, reminds me of the story of the EF-111 which was credited with a kill of a Mirage F1 during Desert Storm... quite a feat these days for an unarmed plane! I bet that plane has a kill mark on it! :flyer:

 

I think it's in the boneyard in AZ, so who knows?

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