EricJ Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 Well I guess I got the bug too about WOE. I managed to finally get it and patched it up, and yeah.... a nice campaign in 2009 wouldn't hurt. I asked malibu43 since he's got something like that. I figured it would be pretty nice, nothing too far out, but here's the plane list. US Aircraft 1 squadron F/A-18E (Bakum Highway) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=8371 1 squadron F/A-18F (Adelsheim Highway) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=8375 1 squadron EA-18G (Twenthe AB) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=8380 2 squadrons F-35A/B/C (Ramstein, Lechfeld, Midlum Highway Strip, Oldenburg Highway Strip ) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=9040 2 squadrons F-22 (Fassberg, Giebelstadt) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=5950 1 squadron F-15E (Rhein-Main) (DS Mod) 2 squadrons A-10 Modern (Buldern,Hohenheide Highway) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=3876 1 squadron AV-8B+ (kirchhardt Highway) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=6681 (recommend serverandenforcer's ini update) 2 squadrons F-16C Blk50 (Buchel, Wunstorf) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=1570 1 squadron F-15C (Bitburg AB) (DS Mod) French 1 squadron M2000C (Hahn AB) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=7286 M2000D (Spangdahlem AB) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=7163 Brits 2 Typhoon (Ingolstadt AB,Landsberg) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=7195 1 Tornado IDS (Norvenich) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=2524 Skin pack: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=7195 1 Squadron GR7 (Kleinalmerspann Highway Strip) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=42033 Polish 1 squadron F-16C Blk52 (Neuberg) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=1570 Skin (http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autocom=downloads&showfile=6850) 2 squadrons PZL Skorpion (Erding) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=8772 MiG-29 (Leipheim) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=8417 Germany 1 squadron F-4F ICE (Sembach) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=2762 2 squadron Tornado IDS (Leipheim) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=2524 2 squadron Typhoon (Lahr, Koln-Wann) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=6398 Hungary 1 squadron JAS39C (Erding) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=6074 Enemy Aircraft (not yet finalized squadron and bases) Su-35 (3 Squadrons flyable) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=8557 Su-39 (2 Squadrons flyable) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=7921 MiG-29C (1 Squadron flyable) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=8416 Su-27SM (1 squadron flyable) http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=8222 Su-27 (3 squadrons flyable) http://marcfighters.combatace.com/arq/Marc..._Su-27_v1.0.zip Bear http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=8063 Su-24 http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=8348 MIG-31BM http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=6951 Wrench's update: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=6965 Su-30 http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=8320 Ground units: M3A1 http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=2747 M1A1 (DS Mod) Mods needed: JSF_Aggies Highway Mod http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=2950 Community Weapons Pack 2.52 http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autoc...p;showfile=7791 Since we've done it in the past, hell it'd be nice to do it in the present? Quote
WingZero Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 Great idea!!!!! But the Mig-29G were sold to Poland i think. A suggestion: French: Mirage 2000-5 Rafale B British: Tornado ADV Enemy Aircraft: SU-30 Bye!! Quote
+allenjb42 Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 Harrier GR7 for the Brits too - assuming it'll take about 2 weeks to put the campaign together, the plane should be available right on time! Quote
eraser_tr Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 Yeah, we need a campaign to utilize the modern aircraft that have been released on both sides. A Grippen and the new Tornado F.3 should go in there too! What would be the premise of the conflict though? Medvedev went apes**t over missiles in poland and the russians got as far as their old iron curtain? the black sea map would probably be more appropriate for a modern NATO/Russia conflict, which would also lend the excuse to being able to fly red aircraft on the blue side as ukrainian allies. Quote
malibu43 Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 Well, here's the thread that talks about what I originally started: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=37899 All I did was take the Red Lightning campaign from WOE and change out the aircraft in all the air units for aircraft listed in my post. Still needs the F-35B to be considered finished... don't know what the status is on that... As far as the back story, I was just kind of pretending the Cold War never ended. I know the red aircraft I selected might not fit any one scenario perfectly, but those seemed to be the highest quality "red" aircraft that I could find, so I used those. They just needed some loadout tweaks to work. It could be easily modified to take place a little closer to the present. Don't know if/when I'll have time to get it done and put on the finishing touches. EricJ, you have the campaign files... you want to take a stab at it? PS - Black Sea terrain would be fun too. Does anyone have any campaigns written with strategic nodes and all that? That's the part I've never done from scratch. Quote
EricJ Posted April 17, 2009 Author Posted April 17, 2009 No I'm really not sure what's going on. I managed to edit yours... and when I started on the airfield, I crashed... so not really sure what the dealio is. And yeah it is pretty much what you're talking about, but I felt something more to the present would be a nice touch. As for Gripen? yeah the Hungarian one would work. But yeah... kinda Red Storm Rising meets the real world. Oil isn't so much the key, maybe just bitterness about being a second rate world power. I've started on that part anyways as far as why, but feel more like it's happening, and flesh it out as I go along. Quote
+Spectre_USA Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 This sounds like a very cool premise, as I love the more modern day chase games in the sky! Cold War 2 sounds even more fun... Quote
EricJ Posted April 17, 2009 Author Posted April 17, 2009 I agree No Rafale since I don't have it. I only using what I generally have. If I remember the Rafale is from Capun. the M2000-5 isn't bad. Quote
Guest a10boar Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 Mr.EricJ,curious about if MiG-29 could be MiG-29 OVT to stand in for MiG-35?Only photos that could find were of India Airshow in 2007 and they are two seaters (Maybe standard,don't know).If my knowledge is bad on subject,could you point me to a correct link to acquire it? Quote
EricJ Posted April 17, 2009 Author Posted April 17, 2009 Nope, all stuff will be what we can download here...and MF MiGs are what's needed. If they made them I'd include them, but other than the aircraft, I'm really trying to go "addon lite" because I shouldn't have to get twenty million addons to have fun. However, to keep it "lite", you will need the Highway Airfield Mod fo sho. Aircraft are a given, but nothing too spectacular. Besides it's pretty old. OVT isn't in service, and just including the F-35 for fun's sake, despite the hideous budget issues it's going through right now. Quote
JediMaster Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 Of course, killing off the F-22 is supposed to secure the F-35s future... Quote
EricJ Posted April 17, 2009 Author Posted April 17, 2009 Hehe, one without the other.. Personally I'm more in favor of the F-35. The Raptor.. well nevermind.. Quote
Guest a10boar Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 Nope, all stuff will be what we can download here...and MF MiGs are what's needed. If they made them I'd include them, but other than the aircraft, I'm really trying to go "addon lite" because I shouldn't have to get twenty million addons to have fun. However, to keep it "lite", you will need the Highway Airfield Mod fo sho. Aircraft are a given, but nothing too spectacular. Besides it's pretty old. OVT isn't in service, and just including the F-35 for fun's sake, despite the hideous budget issues it's going through right now. No problem,thank sir for your time and the pointer to Highway Air Mod.I'm learning slowly and hope my question are not too annoying.Like to do my own campaigning to on what is learned from the leaders in this forum community.KB can be a bit confusing but,will get the grasp of it thru trail and error. Quote
Derk Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 How about 250 F16 MLU's.... (dumb remark since it was removed, but in real life it's there, from Kirkeness in the North to the French border in the South, in greater numbers than for instance the Mirage 2000 or Tornado ADV, multirole, BVR capable, alive and kicking and continuously being upgraded in 4 airforces) Hou doe, Derk Quote
SayethWhaaaa Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 Don't forget the Italians with the Tornado ADV, their leased F-16s and their AV-8B+s. Quote
az12121 Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 Will be there polish air force? It will be nice to see them in that scenario. Quote
the test pilot Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 in fact, italian air force gave back tornado ADVs a while ago. we now operate on F-16ADFs, Typhoons(only A2A Ready), tornado IDS and AMX. Quote
EricJ Posted April 18, 2009 Author Posted April 18, 2009 Let me work more on the scenario and see what I can think of, but trying to keep it down a bit as well. Plus I got some other things to check out. Basically I have it in my mind, just haven't taken time to truly get the scenario, whys and wherefores sorted. When I do I'll revamp the plane list, and so on. Quote
EricJ Posted April 19, 2009 Author Posted April 19, 2009 Finally got a name for it to go by.. Operation Bear Hunt. Basic theory is Medvedev lost some cool points with the oh so stereotypical Ultra Nationalists, with some Putin maneuverings since he was booted out. Putin said create a crisis, and well... Poland gets invaded of course, so now what little air force (any Polish skins for the -16) remains ends up trying to reinvade occupied Poland to get it. I've done some thinking, and was wondering about creation of a few things: POL points (nice rear action strikes, etc.). Generally the feeling is like Red Storm Rising, but of course more modern. Quote
+Florian Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 Eric, if you focus on 2009 maybe include the F-4F ICE´s also for the german air force. JG71 is still operating them from Wittmund AB and will keep them at least till 2011. BTW, if you want to include some really exotic airframe, BAe Systems operates at least six former israeli A-4N Skyhawks from Wittmund under contract of the german Department of Defence for Target Towing. 4 of them in white with blue stripes on the side, one in overall grey and one in Israeli camo. All are using civilian US-Registrations (N431FS, N432FS, N434FS, N437FS, N262WL and N268WL)! Quote
az12121 Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 (any Polish skins for the -16) As you wish: Polish F-16C skin Polish F-16D skin Quote
EricJ Posted April 19, 2009 Author Posted April 19, 2009 Nice, thank you! AmokFloo... not so much into the Scooters, but the ICE sounds like a good idea. I just hope it's not too much for malibu43.. if he's still interested. Most aircraft already in-theatre I want to keep historical as much as possible, the F-22/35 may require some fanagaling. Polish and the Hungarians in the southern portion. For the storyboard I'm working on, F/A-18F VFA-213 at Aldesheim (sp?) Highway Strip, and the E somewhere north, and the EA-18G wherever. Of course the Reds no real preference. Reason I'm keeping the F unit at Aldesheim is that the Theo took some cruise missiles from a Bear they were sheperding. More plotline to follow.. And Jedi Master, is this Padewan thinking that the F-117s are just being stored correct? Not put into AMARC? Quote
EricJ Posted April 21, 2009 Author Posted April 21, 2009 So right now I'm going to lock the plane list and hope malibu43 can take some time... Quote
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