Formats for Carriers and Warship with the Mission Editor

[+Wrench]

I remember asking TK about the water bmp when SF2I Exp1 came out, as it was added to IseralME. Never got a real good answer, just "yes, it shows what's water and what's land"

 

I guess we NOW have a definitive answer.

 

Somebody should packaga ALL the new water bmps and inis, and upload them to the Terrains downloads section

 

(still need Libya and a few others...some for terrains as not yet completed. I know what I"m doing today!)

 

wrench

kevin stein

Edited December 5, 2010 by Wrench

[+Stary]

Why do I have feeling that one will be Wrench, The...

 

On more serious note, it's allways worth checking CAT files and inis for strange new stuff that seems to have no use... for now. I'm still puzzled by that [xObject010] ObjectDLLName=HelicopterObject entry in one ini file...

[+Gr.Viper]

Some AI Navy company for the kittie?

[+Wrench]

Interesting to note, the stock terrain's main ini calls for a ***_Location.bmp, and only IsrealME has one!!!

 

wrench

kevin stein

[+Stary]

wasn't the _Location used to determine which country pilot was shoot down over? I think I recollect TK saying so, there was some issue with many nations on Israel map and some bugs caused by those when it came into determining pilot's status (MIA, captured etc)

[+Crusader]

The locations thing was made to sort out the AI flights for single missions, Syrian kites starting from Syrian airbases only, Egyptian kites from Egyptian bases and so on.

Only in IsraelME so far because it has more than 2 nations involved inthe action.

 

Or something like that.

Edited December 5, 2010 by Crusader

[+Dave]

Finally. Thank you all for your help.

[+Stary]

The locations thing was made to sort out the AI flights for single missions

 

Thank you for clarification

I knew it was related to more than two countries somehow, but my memory failed me.

[+Crusader]

 

but I'm not 100% sure.. you never know with those guys in Austin, Texas ... ;D

[+Wrench]

Then, theoreticly, one COULD create a locations bmp for those maps with multiple "participants" (DS for the best example, what with all the countries nearby)

 

You'd think there'd be one for GermanyCE, but I guess all the Red forces are considered "WarsawPact", and therefor Soviet???

 

Something to experiment with, along with the terrains nations ini, that determine who is where...as set in the targets ini

 

wrench

kevin stein

[+Stary]

Then, theoreticly, one COULD create a locations bmp for those maps with multiple "participants" (DS for the best example, what with all the countries nearby)

 

You'd think there'd be one for GermanyCE, but I guess all the Red forces are considered "WarsawPact", and therefor Soviet???

 

Something to experiment with, along with the terrains nations ini, that determine who is where...as set in the targets ini

 

wrench

kevin stein

 

Hmm, I just thought about new campaign scenario with Polish military uprising against Soviet domination creating second frontline in the back, lets say set during Martial Law period in Poland (1981-1983)... just thinking out loud

[+PureBlue]

Then, theoreticly, one COULD create a locations bmp for those maps with multiple "participants" (DS for the best example, what with all the countries nearby)

 

I'm not sure the purpose of locations.bmp is deterimining starting airfields..

Because then I would guess the index of the colormap, for different nations (int the locations.bmp)

would somehow correspond to the nations.ini indexes.

 

But they don't match.. And the sea is black and the lakes are light blue...

 

So it's still a mystery for me

Edited December 6, 2010 by pureblue

[+Stratos]

One question. I want to design carrier missions on Black Sea terrain, where excatly I should add the BlackSea_Water.bmp file?

[+PureBlue]

Straight in the YourModFolder\Terrains\BlackSea\ folder

don't forget to add the WaterMap callout to BlackSea.INI (also in the same folder)

[+Stratos]

Thanks, but another question. I need to insert this into terrain.ini, but where exactly?

 

WaterMap=TERRAIN_Water.bmp

[+Stary]

Thanks, but another question. I need to insert this into terrain.ini, but where exactly?

 

WaterMap=TERRAIN_Water.bmp

 

at the bottom of [Terrain] section

check this example from my Formosa.ini file:

 

[Terrain]

TerrainFullName=Formosa Strait Taiwanhaixia

DataFile=Formosa_data.INI

TargetFile=Formosa_targets.INI

TargetTypeFile=Formosa_types.INI

MovementFile=Formosa_movement.INI

NationsFile=Formosa_nations.INI

BriefingText=Formosa_briefing.INI

DogfightFile=Formosa_dogfight.INI

DogfightOnly=FALSE

CatFile=..\GermanyCE\GermanyCE.cat

LimitedNations=TRUE

GroundObjectTexture=green

WaterMap=Formosa_Water.bmp <--------------------------here

 

of course your should be:

 

WaterMap=BlackSea_Water.bmp

 

this should do

[+Stratos]

Thanks a lot!! Will try it tonight after work.

[+EricJ]

Worked like a charm Crusader, DBS Map with CVN_71static from the DS mod... Thanks!

[+Stratos]

All works perfectly. Thanks a lot

[Murphy'S]

how can we set a flight based on the same carrier you take off from to appear on the carrier one minute after your own launch. (already tried but no joy til now)

 

ps: sorry for the cross post

[+JediMaster]

My guess in the seas = black, lakes = blue thing is to make 3 categories--ground units can't go on either, but naval units can only go on black, i.e. blue excludes any surface units.

 

I think the Tomcat title will have to have helos. Whether friendly SH-3s or enemy Kamovs, true naval combat post-Vietnam can't be done without them.

 

BTW, anyone taking bets on whether we'll see AI-controlled Yak-38s from TK for it? We already have friendly carriers from that era, all he needs is one of the Soviet's and we have the potential for a great naval engagement.

[+Stary]

I think the Tomcat title will have to have helos. Whether friendly SH-3s or enemy Kamovs, true naval combat post-Vietnam can't be done without them.

 

 

OT: me too JM, the recent mess with shadows cast by transparent meshes covered in other threads clearly points to possibility of helos in Tomcat's naval environment.

 

Not sure about the bitmaps colors and such, as Tomcat title is announced to have "new" terrain engine... how different from current is a mistery to me. I hope different, current one is simply old

[Murphy'S]

It seems that whatever you do escort/ other flight which are carriers based never take off from carrier but just "spawn" in the air over your carrier (or their own one)

 

tried a lots of settings but no joy

 

here's a exemple

 

[MissionHeader]

AircraftType=A-7E

MissionMap=DESERT

MissionType=STRIKE

StartTime=11:04:55

StartDate=01/29/1982

NavalMission=TRUE

 

[MissionData]

FriendlyAirActivity=2

EnemyAirActivity=2

FriendlyAirDefenseActivity=2

EnemyAirDefenseActivity=2

PlayerMissionID=1

PlayerPositionID=1

MissionNumber=1188

GeneratedMission=FALSE

AdjustStartPosition=TRUE

AdjustBaseWaypoint=TRUE

CreateStaticAircraft=TRUE

CreateHelpFlight=TRUE

 

[Weather]

WeatherType=SCATTERED

WeatherAlt=3048.000000

WeatherThickness=15.240000

HasHighLayer=TRUE

HighLayerAlt=6326.538086

FogAmount=0.750000

ContrailAlt=7620.000000

StartWindDirection=300.000000

StartWindSpeed=2.057776

WindGustingAmount=2.572220

 

[AircraftMission001]

Name=TAMPA

AircraftType=A-7E

Size=2

Alignment=FRIENDLY

RandomChance=100

MissionType=STRIKE

TargetArea=P1 Airfield

ObjectiveID=1

RatingForSuccess=100

CarrierBased=TRUE

Position=453125.001144,536132.813854,0.000000

Heading=169.077194

Speed=216.473221

StartTime=0.000000

BaseArea=

Waypoint[01].Command=TAKEOFF

Waypoint[01].Position=453211.603683,536082.813846,0.000000

Waypoint[01].Size=100.000000

Waypoint[01].Speed=186.500000

Waypoint[02].Command=DEPART

Waypoint[02].Position=456172.687207,527309.013057,3048.000000

Waypoint[02].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[02].Speed=186.500000

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=431276.719381,507263.930517,3000.000000

Waypoint[03].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[03].Speed=216.473221

Waypoint[04].Command=INITIAL_POINT

Waypoint[04].Position=433565.062393,472444.006651,3000.000000

Waypoint[04].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[04].Speed=216.473221

Waypoint[05].Command=OBJECTIVE_POINT

Waypoint[05].Objective=TRUE

Waypoint[05].Position=415000.000000,445000.000000,3000.000000

Waypoint[05].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[05].Speed=216.473221

Waypoint[06].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[06].Position=414899.739468,460635.368961,3048.000000

Waypoint[06].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[06].Speed=216.066483

Waypoint[07].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[07].Position=415785.780718,484040.756123,3048.000000

Waypoint[07].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[07].Speed=216.066483

Waypoint[08].Command=APPROACH

Waypoint[08].Position=427558.005023,534840.640459,1524.000000

Waypoint[08].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[08].Speed=106.163994

Waypoint[09].Command=LAND_LINEUP

Waypoint[09].Position=445105.605497,540762.813026,762.000000

Waypoint[09].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[09].Speed=75.031876

Waypoint[10].Command=LAND_TOUCHDOWN

Waypoint[10].Position=453081.699874,536157.813858,0.000000

Waypoint[10].Size=25.000000

Waypoint[10].Speed=58.980000

Nation=USN

FormationType=USFighter

PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT

Loadout=Strike

AmmoPercent=100

FuelPercent=100

TracerMixRatio=6

Texture=USNGrey1

Squadron=VA27

AircraftNumber=8

KillMarking=0

 

[AircraftMission002]

Name=A002

AircraftType=MiG-23ML

Size=2

Alignment=ENEMY

RandomChance=60

MissionType=INTERCEPT

TargetArea=P1 Airfield

ObjectiveID=3

RatingForSuccess=50

StartOnGround=TRUE

CarrierBased=FALSE

Position=617000.000000,491000.000000,0.000000

Heading=257.171204

Speed=206.284576

StartTime=-47.077282

BaseArea=P8 Airfield

Waypoint[01].Command=TAKEOFF

Waypoint[01].Position=617795.444336,490540.749939,0.000000

Waypoint[01].Size=100.000000

Waypoint[01].Speed=196.509995

Waypoint[02].Command=DEPART

Waypoint[02].Position=620192.107576,481596.276361,3048.000000

Waypoint[02].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[02].Speed=196.509995

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=509831.776472,495086.553762,1000.000000

Waypoint[03].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[03].Speed=206.284576

Waypoint[04].Command=INITIAL_POINT

Waypoint[04].Position=448356.552107,495958.688210,3000.000000

Waypoint[04].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[04].Speed=206.284576

Waypoint[05].Command=OBJECTIVE_POINT

Waypoint[05].Objective=TRUE

Waypoint[05].Position=433565.062393,472444.006651,3000.000000

Waypoint[05].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[05].Speed=206.284576

Waypoint[06].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[06].Position=415000.000000,445000.000000,3000.000000

Waypoint[06].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[06].Speed=206.284576

Waypoint[07].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[07].Position=522168.232221,440913.447894,1000.000000

Waypoint[07].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[07].Speed=206.284576

Waypoint[08].Command=APPROACH

Waypoint[08].Position=590668.141148,498394.792486,1524.000000

Waypoint[08].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[08].Speed=119.303993

Waypoint[09].Command=LAND_LINEUP

Waypoint[09].Position=608980.604353,495629.999172,762.000000

Waypoint[09].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[09].Speed=77.474365

Waypoint[10].Command=LAND_TOUCHDOWN

Waypoint[10].Position=616204.555664,491459.250061,0.000000

Waypoint[10].Size=50.000000

Waypoint[10].Speed=66.279999

Nation=Paran

FormationType=SovietFighter

PilotTrainingStandard=POOR

Loadout=AirToAir

AmmoPercent=100

FuelPercent=100

TracerMixRatio=6

Texture=SovietCamo1

Squadron=

AircraftNumber=29

KillMarking=0

 

[AircraftMission003]

Name=ASP

AircraftType=F-4E_72

Size=2

Alignment=FRIENDLY

RandomChance=80

MissionType=SWEEP

TargetArea=P1 Airfield

ObjectiveID=2

RatingForSuccess=50

StartOnGround=TRUE

CarrierBased=FALSE

Position=301000.000000,601000.000000,0.000000

Heading=143.841812

Speed=279.393768

StartTime=760.536377

BaseArea=D6 Airfield

Waypoint[01].Command=TAKEOFF

Waypoint[01].Position=300999.999920,600081.500000,0.000000

Waypoint[01].Size=100.000000

Waypoint[01].Speed=205.610001

Waypoint[02].Command=DEPART

Waypoint[02].Position=303873.649957,591278.674394,3048.000000

Waypoint[02].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[02].Speed=205.610001

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=335570.671734,506609.343723,7500.000000

Waypoint[03].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[03].Speed=279.393768

Waypoint[04].Command=INITIAL_POINT

Waypoint[04].Position=387550.125209,449269.982050,7500.000000

Waypoint[04].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[04].Speed=279.393768

Waypoint[05].Command=OBJECTIVE_POINT

Waypoint[05].Objective=TRUE

Waypoint[05].Position=415000.000000,445000.000000,7500.000000

Waypoint[05].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[05].Speed=279.393768

Waypoint[06].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[06].Position=419269.981636,472449.874791,7500.000000

Waypoint[06].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[06].Speed=279.393768

Waypoint[07].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[07].Position=380429.324955,539390.661244,7500.000000

Waypoint[07].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[07].Speed=279.393768

Waypoint[08].Command=APPROACH

Waypoint[08].Position=318605.652831,616007.300074,1524.000000

Waypoint[08].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[08].Speed=129.257996

Waypoint[09].Command=LAND_LINEUP

Waypoint[09].Position=301000.001619,610260.000000,762.000000

Waypoint[09].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[09].Speed=87.732384

Waypoint[10].Command=LAND_TOUCHDOWN

Waypoint[10].Position=301000.000080,601918.500000,0.000000

Waypoint[10].Size=50.000000

Waypoint[10].Speed=71.809998

Nation=Dhimar

FormationType=USFighter

PilotTrainingStandard=POOR

Loadout=AirToAirLongRange

AmmoPercent=100

FuelPercent=100

TracerMixRatio=6

Texture=USAFCamo1

Squadron=

AircraftNumber=90

KillMarking=0

 

[AircraftMission004]

Name=TROUT

AircraftType=F-4J

Size=4

Alignment=FRIENDLY

RandomChance=100

MissionType=ESCORT

TargetArea=P1 Airfield

ObjectiveID=1

RatingForSuccess=50

CarrierBased=TRUE

Position=453613.282395,536102.296275,0.000000

Heading=198.991501

Speed=284.142883

StartTime=51.229183

BaseArea=

Waypoint[01].Command=TAKEOFF

Waypoint[01].Position=453699.884934,536052.296267,0.000000

Waypoint[01].Size=100.000000

Waypoint[01].Speed=210.279999

Waypoint[02].Command=DEPART

Waypoint[02].Position=456640.468615,527271.603416,3048.000000

Waypoint[02].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[02].Speed=210.279999

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=453613.282395,536202.296275,500.000000

Waypoint[03].Size=100.000000

Waypoint[03].Speed=244.800003

Waypoint[04].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[04].Position=447065.473714,542750.104957,500.000000

Waypoint[04].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[04].Speed=244.800003

Waypoint[05].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[05].Position=423236.548521,490756.698511,3048.000000

Waypoint[05].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[05].Speed=282.944183

Waypoint[06].Command=INITIAL_POINT

Waypoint[06].Position=416978.499973,468013.565690,3048.000000

Waypoint[06].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[06].Speed=282.944183

Waypoint[07].Command=OBJECTIVE_POINT

Waypoint[07].Objective=TRUE

Waypoint[07].Position=415000.000000,445000.000000,3000.000000

Waypoint[07].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[07].Speed=284.142883

Waypoint[08].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[08].Position=434107.315680,461576.187573,3048.000000

Waypoint[08].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[08].Speed=282.944183

Waypoint[09].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[09].Position=446963.649597,478047.019544,3048.000000

Waypoint[09].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[09].Speed=282.944183

Waypoint[10].Command=APPROACH

Waypoint[10].Position=428032.499941,534851.130845,1524.000000

Waypoint[10].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[10].Speed=139.554001

Waypoint[11].Command=LAND_LINEUP

Waypoint[11].Position=445593.886748,540732.295447,762.000000

Waypoint[11].Size=1500.000000

Waypoint[11].Speed=84.751678

Waypoint[12].Command=LAND_TOUCHDOWN

Waypoint[12].Position=453569.981125,536127.296279,0.000000

Waypoint[12].Size=25.000000

Waypoint[12].Speed=77.529999

Nation=USN

FormationType=USFighter

PilotTrainingStandard=NORMAL

Loadout=AirToAirLongRange

AmmoPercent=100

FuelPercent=100

TracerMixRatio=6

Texture=USNGrey2

Squadron=VF92

AircraftNumber=13

KillMarking=0

 

[AircraftMission005]

Name=

AircraftType=A-10A

Size=0

Alignment=NEUTRAL

RandomChance=0

MissionType=SWEEP

TargetArea=Al'Duhok

ObjectiveID=1

RatingForSuccess=0

StartOnGround=TRUE

CarrierBased=FALSE

Position=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000

Heading=0.000000

Speed=0.000000

StartTime=0.000000

BaseArea=Al'Duhok

Nation=

FormationType=USFighter

PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT

Loadout=Attack

AmmoPercent=0

FuelPercent=0

TracerMixRatio=0

Texture=USAFCamo1

Squadron=

AircraftNumber=0

KillMarking=0

 

[GroundMission001]

Name=G001

GroundObjectType=CVA-63

Nation=Dhimar

RandomChance=100

ObjectiveID=1

RatingForSuccess=50

Size=1

FormationType=

NavalObject=TRUE

Carrier=TRUE

Position=453125.001144,536132.813854,0.000000

Heading=120.000008

Speed=18.000000

StartTime=433.900085

Alignment=FRIENDLY

PilotTrainingStandard=NORMAL

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=462478.074386,530732.811900,0.000000

Waypoint[01].Size=1546.212891

Waypoint[01].Speed=18.000000

Waypoint[02].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[02].Position=460931.860885,533410.930797,0.000000

Waypoint[02].Size=1546.212891

Waypoint[02].Speed=18.000000

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=442225.714401,544210.934703,0.000000

Waypoint[03].Size=1546.212891

Waypoint[03].Speed=18.000000

Waypoint[04].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[04].Position=443771.927902,541532.815807,0.000000

Waypoint[04].Size=1546.212891

Waypoint[04].GotoWaypoint=1

Waypoint[04].Speed=18.000000

Texture=USNGrey

ShipNumber=0

 

[GroundMission002]

Name=G002

GroundObjectType=CVA-63

Nation=Dhimar

RandomChance=100

ObjectiveID=1

RatingForSuccess=50

Size=1

FormationType=

NavalObject=TRUE

Carrier=TRUE

Position=453613.282395,536102.296275,0.000000

Heading=120.000008

Speed=18.000000

StartTime=402.905457

Alignment=FRIENDLY

PilotTrainingStandard=NORMAL

Waypoint[01].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[01].Position=462966.355637,530702.294322,0.000000

Waypoint[01].Size=1546.212891

Waypoint[01].Speed=18.000000

Waypoint[02].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[02].Position=461420.142136,533380.413219,0.000000

Waypoint[02].Size=1546.212891

Waypoint[02].Speed=18.000000

Waypoint[03].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[03].Position=442713.995652,544180.417125,0.000000

Waypoint[03].Size=1546.212891

Waypoint[03].Speed=18.000000

Waypoint[04].Command=WAYPOINT

Waypoint[04].Position=444260.209153,541502.298229,0.000000

Waypoint[04].Size=1546.212891

Waypoint[04].GotoWaypoint=1

Waypoint[04].Speed=18.000000

Texture=USNGrey

ShipNumber=0

 

[Callsign]

GroundCallsignID=8

FACCallsignID=1

TACCCallsignID=1

 

[+EricJ]

It's a bug, happens to me too.

[Murphy'S]

is there any vietnamsea water.bmp for the sf2V expansion terrains (north and south)?