Bullethead Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 I'm looking forward to that Aviatik as a new challenge. It's going to require some experimentation to find ACM tactics that make effective use of its guns, both offensively and defensively. Very interesting arcs of fire there Do the guns slide on those tracks in the game as I presume they did in real life? Quote
+Polovski Posted October 21, 2011 Author Posted October 21, 2011 Thanks guys, no BH we fixed them in those positions although yes in rl you can slide somewhat. Not sure how easy in combat but anyway the arc is very generous and up/down too you can fire forward and pretty much fully rear with both. We mounted one more forward than the other. P4 has a few surprises for gunners too. Quote
Wayfarer Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 I am going to have to go back in time for that Aviatik. Quote
Olham Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Geeeeee - the new Albatros D.Va of Otto Fuchs looks so brill! Paarma, you got the wood better looking than mine! Very good Job, Sir! The light sparse clouds at sunrise in pic 2 must be a new weather type, Winder? Looking sooooo inviting for an early sortie! And the D.III (although much in the shadow here) looks also "revamped wood-wise". Maybe less weathering? That is a good compromise, I think, cause weathering could rather easily be added by the simmer. The cockpit pic from the Aviatik reveals it: P4 is going so much closer into the detail; the observer looks so real - as if he might turn his head round any second. I had never seen those gun on the rails - an interesting set-up! Now, Hasse Wind will be most happy about this craft, but that's a design I will also have try out. Quote
+elephant Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) Geeeeee - the new Albatros D.Va of Otto Fuchs looks so brill! Paarma, you got the wood better looking than mine! Very good Job, Sir! The new wooden and metal texture is brilliant but I see many mistakes, (OAW and Johannisthal characteristics been mixed up) The photo of the actual Fuchs D.Va, from early 18 looked a bit different... The obvious diference is the camo on wings instead of lozenge. From what it seems from the photo Fuchs' Albatros was a Johannisthal Werke machine, (fuselage cross placement, centerline stencil and lack of bream on the hood). The blue on tail section is extended up to the cross side on fuselage and on the rudder as well. From the update pics the plane is having OAW style lozenge camo (blue rib tapes) and weights table stencil placement... The OAW style lozenge in every Albatros in P3 is a mistake I don't want to see it repeated in P4! Edited October 21, 2011 by elephant Quote
Hasse Wind Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Ah, finally an Aviatik! Looking forward to flying that one in career mode. Quote
OvS Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 From the update pics the plane is having OAW style lozenge camo (blue rib tapes) and weights table stencil placement... The OAW style lozenge in every Albatros in P3 is a mistake I don't want to see it repeated in P4! Please comment more on the OAW style being wrong. If you have historical information that can back this statement, please share it, and if there is time, corrections can/will be made to the best I can. Thanks, OvS Quote
carrick58 Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 AV Av Av Av Av AVIATIK ! LOOKS LIKE I WILL BE JOINING THE 2 SEAT CROWD Quote
Olham Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Hey, OvS - nice to see you, and to hear you are also at the stuff! I guess what elephant meant was, that the OAW Albatros had light blue ribtape, while the Johannisthal-built ones had salmon ribtapes. Quote
theultimat Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Wow - those screenshots look outstanding! Unfortunately, my PC is hardly able to run P3, so I wont be able to get P4 any time soon. I doubt I would be allowed to upgrade my PC either... Quote
shredward Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Hey, OvS - nice to see you, and to hear you are also at the stuff! I guess what elephant meant was, that the OAW Albatros had light blue ribtape, while the Johannisthal-built ones had salmon ribtapes. That could be what he was referring to. To my knowledge, the fabric all came from the same place, but as you pointed out, rib tapes varied. The other major variation, even within the same batch, was lozenge vs painted surfaces. DSA was the master there. Cheers, shredward Quote
JFM Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 Also, on Johannisthal-built D.Va's the weights table is situated with the first line on the horizontal reference datum, with most of it below. The D.Va(OAW)'s weights table is situated entirely above this line, much closer to the cockpit, as seen on that screenshot. Furthermore, with a weights table that high--i.e., an OAW machine--the Leergewicht would be 717kg, not 680. I'll gladly post photos later but right now I have to dash the kids off to soccer. Quote
+elephant Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) Indeed... 717 220 ___ 937 for OAW D.Va Instead of: 680 235 ___ 915 for Johannisthal D.V uprated and D.Va But as showed earlier, Fuchs' machine was a Johannisthal one and the weights table is just misplaced. I've started a personal topic with OvS, Jim. You are invited too... Edited October 22, 2011 by elephant Quote
Olham Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 Does anyone know, why they had different weights??? Quote
+elephant Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 D.Va (OAW) had additional lower wing reinforcements, to additionaly counter the lower wing flutter plague of the V strutted Albatrosse. This led to an increase of weight and as counter measure the fuel tank capacity was decreased, in order to lighten the plane. That finaly comromised the plane's autonomy while the total weight, still remained a few kilos heavier than the Johannistal model! Quote
+Polovski Posted October 22, 2011 Author Posted October 22, 2011 Guys, can you take it to a different thread to talk about the historical details ta Quote
+Paarma Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 Hello, Shortly, im happy you Elephant pointing out the details of OAW build albatroses. The Fuchs machine indeed has errors becourse i have used example picture where this craft was just partly seen. Best regards Arto The new wooden and metal texture is brilliant but I see many mistakes, (OAW and Johannisthal characteristics been mixed up) The photo of the actual Fuchs D.Va, from early 18 looked a bit different... The obvious diference is the camo on wings instead of lozenge. From what it seems from the photo Fuchs' Albatros was a Johannisthal Werke machine, (fuselage cross placement, centerline stencil and lack of bream on the hood). The blue on tail section is extended up to the cross side on fuselage and on the rudder as well. From the update pics the plane is having OAW style lozenge camo (blue rib tapes) and weights table stencil placement... The OAW style lozenge in every Albatros in P3 is a mistake I don't want to see it repeated in P4! Quote
+Polovski Posted November 16, 2011 Author Posted November 16, 2011 More new screenshots posted of Makai's new DR.I and Alb D.II textures! http://combatace.com/topic/64931-phase-4-development-screenshots-merged/page__st__40 Quote
Olham Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 Aaaahhh - fresh Albs!!! And the Dr.1 looks really like a fighter craft now - well done, guys! Quote
Creaghorn Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 what i like on the new albs is that the visible pattern on the sawed wood is not the same on each one Quote
Herr Prop-Wasche Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 Cool! But when, when, when do we get to actually fly these beauties? I know, I know, 2 weeks. Sigh. Quote
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