dsawan 624 Posted December 10, 2012 A first. probably on e-bay by now. http://times247.com/articles/f-16-engines-stolen-from-israeli-military-base Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerSmith 72 Posted December 10, 2012 let's hope enemy countries don't try to stick it in their Migs, SUs, Fire Foxes, ADFX-01s or whatever the hell them kids fly these days Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morteza1374 37 Posted December 10, 2012 It's not new It had stollen two weeks ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Gepard 11,303 Posted December 10, 2012 let's hope enemy countries don't try to stick it in their Migs, SUs, Fire Foxes, ADFX-01s or whatever the hell them kids fly these days It would not fit into a MiG or Sukhoi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atreides 144 Posted December 10, 2012 Probably a gungho member from Combat Ace, those guys are nutz. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast 153 Posted December 10, 2012 Okay admit it who's wanting their Iron Eagle fantasies to be more than that ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dast24 138 Posted December 10, 2012 But how can a JET ENGINE be stolen from a Airbase?! i, mean it is nothing you but in your pocket an go out to the front door...... maybe only a drunken guy stored it somewhere were no one expected it to be and the drunken guy cant remember..... :-D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted December 10, 2012 Certainly an inside job. Possibly they have a black market contact. Only place I could think of they could go is Venezuela, as they have F-16s that are the same vintage as some of Israel's. You're not going to see the Chinese or others paying for them, there's nothing new there for them. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Jimbib 747 Posted December 10, 2012 Not the first time this has happened... http://www.nytimes.c...16-engines.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
macelena 1,070 Posted December 10, 2012 Hmm...we had an incident a few years ago when police arrested people wich had a factory was making Tomcat engines and other parts near Madrid... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted December 11, 2012 Engines?? I can believe a few parts perhaps, but no one can build a jet engine like that except another jet engine manufacturer...and I think if SNECMA or RR or whoever were building engines for Iran it would've made worldwide news! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nesher 628 Posted December 11, 2012 yeah, on the news they said it was probably an inside job... hope they'll get caught! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
macelena 1,070 Posted December 15, 2012 Engines?? I can believe a few parts perhaps, but no one can build a jet engine like that except another jet engine manufacturer...and I think if SNECMA or RR or whoever were building engines for Iran it would've made worldwide news! Not making the whole engine, apparently they got some parts, made some others, then assembled or supplied what they had for the Iranians. They didn´t just manufacture, the also dealed with retired Israeli (irony) Bell 212 and other stuff, had a hangar full of them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotdown 8 Posted January 5, 2013 Since we are with the Tomcat, how difficult could be fitting those engines to iranian Tomcats?. If I'm not mistaken, late Tomcats used the same engine used by USAF F-15's and F-16's, but I don't Know how much needed to be changed from the original Tomcat design. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted January 5, 2013 Early Tomcats = F-14A (like the Iranian ones) using the TF30 and later the TF30-P-414A. Late Tomcats = F-14A+/B and D. Those used the F110-GE-400, which is similar to (ie derived from a common beginning) but not identical to the F-16's F110-GE-100, F110-GE-129, and F110-GE-132. Some late F-15s use the 129s as well. "The primary difference between the F110-GE-400 and the F110-GE-100 is length - the F110-GE-400 has a 50-inch (1.3 m) tailpipe extension to suit the F-14 airframe, which is fitted downstream of the augmentor. The new engine provided 23,100 lbf (103 kN) of thrust (can go up to 27,600 lbf (123,000 N) max augmented thrust if authorised and or if the situation dictates) compared to the TF30's maximum thrust of 20,900 lbf (93 kN)." -- wiki To take F-16 engines and fit them to their first-gen Tomcats would mean Iran basically making their own F-14B variant, a non-trivial task. I don't doubt it could be done, but I doubt it could be done easily, cheaply, or quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nesher 628 Posted January 6, 2013 you assume that the engines are headed to Iran and not a for scraping (destroying evidence and getting easy money is a smarter thing to do) lets hope that the MP's will find those engines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites