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JonathanRL, June 24, 2013 in The Pub
I hate Journo's...so this has made my feckin' day!
Almost seems fair!
Havanna is a nice place on a nice island. But i guess the journalists will not be happy about that trip.
best part is it was a 15 hour ride with no food or booze. I may not be a fan of Snowden but anytime some of these asshat jouralists gets stuck on a 15 hour flight to a socialist sh!thole I'm a happy guy.
As they said on the Daily Show last night, this is how the US Gov't discredits him. He releases a story about the big too-powerful US gov't knowing everything about everyone...and then we can't find one amateur booking flights in his own name.
Cuba is not a "socialist shit hole." It is a "communist shit hole." I don't think this is funny or clever at all. Hang the traitor son of a bitch.
If you think Snowden is hanging out in the airport lounge you might be fooling yourself. I think he is in the Lubianka dungeon right now getting an old school KGB "debriefing."
I think he is in the Lubianka dungeon right now getting an old school KGB "debriefing."
If he's lucky.
Do you really think so?
I think they have far better techniques now. Slip something into his food/water and he'll likely be very forthcoming with any questions they ask.
That's what I mean. Not him being water boarded or beaten, but the subtle "who is your real friend" approach. Anyone that would seek employment with a contractor with the sole purpose of stealing classified info is a spy. Spies swing, always have always will. Another issue that the "Snowden Affair" brings up is the feeling of individualism that young people in America have. How can a person like Snowden feel that he is responsible for the "liberation" of the American people. There is no team spirit in American youth anymore. No honor or integrity. When I was a kid I was taught that no matter what the circumstances the last thing you do is betray your country. It gives the impression that most young Americans views of patriotism is not one of hard work and sacrifice, but one of leave me alone and let me do what I want. Snowden defends that thesis by "revealing" the "tyranny" of the government to spy on it's citizens. Instead of the real facts that phone logs and such are only a small sacrifice we have had to endure in an effort to prevent terror attacks. Snowden is a fucking fool and anyone who holds him up as a defender of liberty is an imbalanced malcontent. Shut up and color Ed, I hope you rot in hell.
Two facts are certain, Snowden could not have taken a laptop into work at NSA. Didn't happen. Second, if he knows so much, how long did it take for the Chinese take to shuffle him off to Russia. If we had any other President, Putin would have already returned him to the US. Snowden is an embarrassment to America, but his usefulness as a source for the "secret goodies" is questionable. Putin is just thumbing his nose at Obama. I think Obama took the high road today, but that says to me that he has no influence as to whether Snowden is handed over and wants to walk away from the issue. At least Obama is consistent.
I say let Russia have the guy. Not sure at all about the judgment of anybody that defects to Russia. Makes me tremble to read about winters there...........
I agree. I will also add that "apparently" information was removed via thumb drive and then transferred to this nefarious laptop, so I've read. Even a thumb drive being used is questionable, the screening, random searches, and various other entry and exit procedures I will only refer to as "the procedure" into and out of Crypto City make that extremely risky if not almost impossible. Regardless it appears to have happened, the root of which will be corrected while young Mr. Snowden lives out his miserable existence, though short I'm sure it will be, in the not so bad summer months abroad. Good luck Ed it was nice knowing you, dumbass.
Even two bit, fly-by-night tax-preparation firms run encryption software nowadays. In order to use on thumb drive on any system so-equipped, one needs to encrypt the thumb drive as well, theoretically rendering the data on it unreadable on any "outside" system that lacks the same encryption key. I'm sure the NSA uses something more secure than that.
Nobody has said that "Eddie the Worm" is not a skilled computer guy. Now the question is, what does President Obama have to do with this? If Mitt Romney was President would Putin cringe in fear? No. Is this worth starting a war with Russia over? No. POTUS is doing the right thing. To bad this did not happen in 2006. Dubya would have invaded Thailand to get to the bottom of it.
Because it happened on his watch, he owns it (just as Roosevelt & Kimmel owned Pearl Harbor, GW Bush owned 9/11, etc) That's just the reality of the situation.
The one president who comes to mind as dealing with a similar situation the best, was JFK, with the Bay of Pigs. He had little to do with it, but he publicly took responsibility for it.
Excellent point. Possession is nine tenths of the law.
When I was a kid I was taught that no matter what the circumstances the last thing you do is betray your country.
Same here. Then again, my country wasn't betraying me when I was a kid.
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