Peugeot205 Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Although the Mirage Factory never made a F-4J of the USN and the USMC ,however , they did both the UK F-4J and the late F-4S which is a modernized version of the F-4J. So, I modify the Mirage Factory F-4S , I've converted some Raven_claw HD skins for series 1 and add new ones , two of them made by amariani , and another one made by me. And this is the result.... (The first skin is the one I've made) The aim of this topic is to get to know what does the comunity thinks about this work , if it makes sense to go ahead with it, if it does not, is someone would like to create some skins or decals etc.. 11 Quote
NIELS Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Don't know much about F-4 antennas and bumps..........Looks great though! Quote
+Coupi Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Hello my boy, Really I like your project! Coupi Quote
Hans Topp Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Its nice have the J model, keep going mate!!!! Quote
+daddyairplanes Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 nice. however if your aim is post 1974, you need the DECM antenea on the intakes. found more commonly in photos on the S, that probably is because most J photos that get attn are Vietnam era shots. but the J continued to fly with the Navy until around 82(VF74 and -103 phinal users) and Marines for two years past that (IIRC VMFA-115, did a Forrestal dep in 83 while another squadron was converting to Toms) might also want to talk to Sundowner, i know he has one and i was working a skin pack (Similar to my F-4N pack) for it but thats not even on a burner right this second Quote
CowboyTodd41 Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 That VF-213 skin is fantastic!!! 1 Quote
Peugeot205 Posted November 20, 2014 Author Posted November 20, 2014 nice. however if your aim is post 1974, you need the DECM antenea on the intakes. found more commonly in photos on the S, that probably is because most J photos that get attn are Vietnam era shots. but the J continued to fly with the Navy until around 82(VF74 and -103 phinal users) and Marines for two years past that (IIRC VMFA-115, did a Forrestal dep in 83 while another squadron was converting to Toms) might also want to talk to Sundowner, i know he has one and i was working a skin pack (Similar to my F-4N pack) for it but thats not even on a burner right this second My aim are both 66 and 74 versions, the screens are for the 66 version. However as you mention the squadrons etc, I'd like to know if you (or any other) could provide me with information about the squadrons and dates of F-4J users. Quote
+daddyairplanes Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Gimme a day or so. Have notes but in a snb note file on my tablet. As you skin only two units that used TPS, and most were in the ovrrall gull gray scheme of the late 70s 1 Quote
+daddyairplanes Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) 1973 VF 11,31,32,33,74,41,84,101,102,103,21,92,96,114,142,143,154,213USNGrey VMFA 212,232,235,3112,333,4511975 VF 11,31,33,74,101,102,103,21,92,96,114,191,194,213USNGrey VMFA 115,122,212,232,235,312,333,4511977 VF 11,31,33,74,101,102,103,21,151,154,161,191,194USNGrey VMFA same as above1978 VF 11,31,33,74,102,103,21,151,154,161overall gloss gull grey1979 VF 11,31,33,74,102,103,21,151,154,161overall gloss VMFA 115,122,212,235,312gull gray1980 VF11,31,33,74,102,103VF 11,31 and 103 were overall gull, the others in a toned down grey scheme with some color but not the TPS VMFA 115,122,212,235 all in overall gull gray1981 VF31,33,74,102,103VF 74 and 103 in TPS Phinal Atlantic Fleet Deployment VMFA same as above1982 VMFA 115,122,312,115 carrier deployment USS Forrestal AA codesall in overall gull greydont have info on pre 73 due to not being the period i'm usually interested in. i mod for the 70s and 80s when there was the greatest mix of the new and the old. if interested i can pm you my squadronlist ini and breakdown of USN/USMC units to make decalling a little easier. unless you have my F-4Npack then you already have the units in there nice work for today! you posted while i was typing up the above list Edited November 20, 2014 by daddyairplanes 1 Quote
snakeman Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 They look great ! Phantoms Phorever ! http://www.thephantomshrine.co.uk 1 Quote
Peugeot205 Posted November 20, 2014 Author Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) 1973 VF 11,31,32,33,74,41,84,101,102,103,21,92,96,114,142,143,154,213 USNGrey VMFA 212,232,235,3112,333,451 1975 VF 11,31,33,74,101,102,103,21,92,96,114,191,194,213 USNGrey VMFA 115,122,212,232,235,312,333,451 1977 VF 11,31,33,74,101,102,103,21,151,154,161,191,194 USNGrey VMFA same as above 1978 VF 11,31,33,74,102,103,21,151,154,161 overall gloss gull grey 1979 VF 11,31,33,74,102,103,21,151,154,161 overall gloss VMFA 115,122,212,235,312 gull gray 1980 VF11,31,33,74,102,103 VF 11,31 and 103 were overall gull, the others in a toned down grey scheme with some color but not the TPS VMFA 115,122,212,235 all in overall gull gray 1981 VF31,33,74,102,103 VF 74 and 103 in TPS Phinal Atlantic Fleet Deployment VMFA same as above 1982 VMFA 115,122,312,115 carrier deployment USS Forrestal AA codes all in overall gull grey dont have info on pre 73 due to not being the period i'm usually interested in. i mod for the 70s and 80s when there was the greatest mix of the new and the old. if interested i can pm you my squadronlist ini and breakdown of USN/USMC units to make decalling a little easier. unless you have my F-4Npack then you already have the units in there nice work for today! you posted while i was typing up the above list I have your F-4N mod. I have the squadron list up to date. Thanks DaddyAirplanes. However, I have a doubt. From 1978 on according to your information the overall plane was painted with gull grey or they changed the the USNgrey by the gull grey. Because most of the pics are from Vietnam era and early 70's Edited November 20, 2014 by FRPignon Quote
+daddyairplanes Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 my big folder of pics is at home, will send it to you tonight. as i have been able to tell, the white came out around 78-79. the Marines were generally the last to update schemes, but Navy worked to reduce visual signature. around 1980, a low viz grey scheme came out and then the TPS in 81-82, though only two squadrons flew the J in that. yes most pics are from the nam era. wait till you get this folder. broken down by unit, most labeled by year. gathered over the course of a years worth of google image hunting 1 Quote
Peugeot205 Posted November 20, 2014 Author Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) Nice. Thanks DaddyAirplanes So the overall gull grey should look like this one: Edited November 20, 2014 by FRPignon 1 Quote
Peugeot205 Posted November 21, 2014 Author Posted November 21, 2014 Felix and Historical VF-96 3 Quote
Peugeot205 Posted November 24, 2014 Author Posted November 24, 2014 OK, I'm almost done with USN skins for the early F-4J , I'm missing these ones: VF-21 VF-121 VF-143 VF-154 I'll try to finish them at the end of this week. 1 Quote
Peugeot205 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Posted January 31, 2015 Tomorrow morning , you'll have a surprise in the download section regarding this project. Cheers FRPignon 5 Quote
+daddyairplanes Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 wondered what happened. looking forward to it! Quote
Spinners Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 You just can't have enough F-4's - Phantom's Phorever.... Quote
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