MrGoTime Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 Sorry if this is addressed anywhere else, but are the balkans included on any existing SF2 terrain? I'd like to use a terrain with the mission building to fly sorties in the balkan airspace, but am having a hard time finding the terrain. I seem to recall that there was one floating around here somewhere. Quote
+76.IAP-Blackbird Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 It`s strange that we dont have it, after all the years. We have every shit filled piece of earth from the last corner of the earth ... but not Balkan ... 3 Quote
MrGoTime Posted July 10, 2015 Author Posted July 10, 2015 One of these days I'll try and teach myself some modding. From my perspective, I wonder how difficult it would be to expand an existing Europe map/terrain a little bit. It may be damn near impossible for all I know (since I know nothing haha). But one of these days I'll take a look when life slows down a bit. Of course, by then, SF2 will be a "vintage" game, I'm sure. Quote
+Wrench Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 expand an existing Europe map/terrain a little bit. It may be damn near impossible unfortunately, it is not possible. Without getting too technical, each map is based off a digital elevation model of x by y degrees (or km -can't remember which). That model is imported into the Terrain Editor (which was never finished, and lacks many functions). After importation, it's then tiled -- and they never go where they should. The larger the terrain, the more work in hand placing every single tile for cites, mountains, forests, fields, oceans, rivers, airbases. Then, you get to build each target area. Not withstanding at the start of terrain creation, telling the TE at the start to expand the DEM by 120%. If you don't, you're stuck with the "usual size" terrain of 63% of reality (the difference between a kilometer and a statute mile) Hell, even the ability of kicking back The Wall, and expanding the usable terrain by 20-60 km has been removed (The Wall is 80km in the outer map edges). As difficult as 3d modeling can be -including the nightmare of cockpit creation-, as creating a FM can be considered a black, Sorcerer's arcane art, Map making is probably the hardest, most mind-numbing, brain-draining and frustrating thing that can be done. That's why there's so few of us. And we're all quite mad.... 1 Quote
+Geezer Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 And we're all quite mad.... 'Tis a fine madness.... Quote
Peugeot205 Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 Sorry if this is addressed anywhere else, but are the balkans included on any existing SF2 terrain? I'd like to use a terrain with the mission building to fly sorties in the balkan airspace, but am having a hard time finding the terrain. I seem to recall that there was one floating around here somewhere. YES 6 Quote
MrGoTime Posted July 12, 2015 Author Posted July 12, 2015 YES ...Magnificent. Where can I find this? Quote
Peugeot205 Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 ...Magnificent. Where can I find this? Right now at my hard drive , but it will be ready at Combat Ace in two weeks 4 Quote
MrGoTime Posted July 13, 2015 Author Posted July 13, 2015 Right now at my hard drive , but it will be ready at Combat Ace in two weeks That sounds awesome. I'll look forward to it. Quote
+Menrva Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 Looking forward to it, seems very promising, tiles are good considering they are generic for such a wide area, good job. I remember a rather old thread where Baltika was showing updates of his own Balkan terrain, but no updates recently, anyway IIRC Brain32 once gave him some hi-res tiles made from satellite images of the Balkans, maybe you can ask if someone has those, those tile templates could be useful at a later stage. Quote
logan4 Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Nice and great work ;o) and I know its in very early status, just a little correction if you not mind. Lake Balaton is a bit higher. I know I live 80km south of it. the area is more in line with Banja Luka / Prijedor region in Bosnia. Quote
Peugeot205 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Thanks for the tip Logan, I've just corrected some targets which were not matching their "real Life" location. Now making the terrain nicer: 8 Quote
Peugeot205 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 1995 Campaign is done and working. The terrain needs some tweeks, and once they are done I'll start with the 1999 campaign. I'm quite happy with the result and I hope to share with you this mod as soon as possible. 5 Quote
shomu1 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Looking forward to it! Will the terrain be navalized? Quote
Peugeot205 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Looking forward to it! Will the terrain be navalized? Naval features will be disabled by default because the navalized terrain did not work as I wanted. Quote
shomu1 Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Ah, so no carrier fun. Oh well. Still looking forward to the terrain. Quote
KJakker Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 (edited) This terrain would be great for some World War II campaigns also. You would need a completely different "movement", "nations", "targets", and "types" INI files, among other things. However it would be great fo things like flying with the 15th Air Force out of Italy. I believe the 15th Air Force flew missions in Italy, France, Switzerland, Germany, Greece, Albania, Yugoslavia, Austria, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Bulgaria, and Romania. Of those this map is only missing southern Albania, Greece, Bulgaria and Romania. That is a lot of territory for USAAF campaigns in 1943-45. It would also work for Luftwaffe and Regia Aeronautica Italiana defensive campaigns from 1942-1945. Edited July 22, 2015 by KJakker Quote
Peugeot205 Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 This is an important question guys. Which SF2 installation has as stock the T-72A tank? Quote
Peugeot205 Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 SF2 Europe? Yes, it is SF2 Europe. Thanks. Quote
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