WINDOWS 10

[RUSTYMORLEY]

I think this question has been asked before, but just for my own peace of mind I think I will give it one more go.

Is there any way to get SF1 series games working on Windows 10. 

Sadly, I upgraded to Windows 10 a few months ago and since then I have been unable to get Wings over Europe SF1 working. I have tried every thing I can think of and every  sensible suggestion, but I think the overall reason (as has been suggested) is that the older generation of Strike Fighters games are not compatible with Windows 10. The game runs but it is incredibly poor and eratic, and crashes to desktop are frequent.

If any of you guys have got WOE  SF1 on your Windows 10 rig and you have got it running well then I would love to know how you have got it set up.  Any advice or info would be most welcome. 

Thanks

RUSTY

 

Edited July 6, 2020 by RUSTYMORLEY

[Geary]

My SF1 in Windows 10 settings.

 

1. Install latest DX9.

    I'm not sure but I believe the latest DX9 driver is 'directx_Jun2010_redist.exe.'  It can be found on the internet.

 

2. Install ENBseries.

    Install the game BUT NOT in the default installation folders.  Put it in the C: root folder or on another drive.

    I use FalconC45's 'HDR Mod 1.01A' found here, 'https://combatace.com/files/category/747-environmental-mods/?page=2.'

   The HDR Mod 1.01A is for high end Nvidia graphics cards.  There is also a mod for ATI/AMD graphics cards on that download page. 

 

3. Set SF1/WOX .exe file compatibility mode to:

    1 - Check box for 'Run this program in compatibility mode for: Windows XP (Service Pack 3).' 

    2 - Check box for 'Run this program as an administrator.'

    Your compatibility mode might differ.  You might need to experiment with different settings to find the right one for your computer.

 

4. I use '4gb_patch.exe.'  I don't know if it makes much difference, but it doesn't stop the game from playing. 

     It can be found about 10 files down here: https://ntcore.com/?page_id=345.

 

Remember computers differ, so my settings and adjustments might not work for your setup.

Good luck.

 

Geary

[+Wrench]

An alternative is just to get the Complete SF2 set, which is on sale for $100 USD. There's an announcement in the SF2 forums:

And since it DOES run in Win10, might be a good investment.

Also, the Winge10 version of SF2 (with the desert map) may be nearly completion and release.

Just saying.

[rlwicker1967]

I just installed SF2 Europe on my Windows 10 machine. It runs flawlessly with a 1GB Radeon card and i5 3.2Ghz and 16 GB memory. Compatibility mode Windows 7 Administrator.

[RUSTYMORLEY]

Thanks for you replies guys, - will have a look at the suggestion made by Geary and if that don't work then SF2 may well be the last resort.

Thanks again for all of you replies chaps. Good to know that you can get some good advice when you need it from other Combat Ace members. Much appreciated.  

Cheers

Rusty

Edited July 9, 2020 by RUSTYMORLEY

[Spinners]

Aye up me duck.

[RUSTYMORLEY]

9 hours ago, Spinners said:

Aye up me duck.

Yes Spinners been a while since my last visit, had totally lost WOE. 

Well I got the game back up and running but the Frame Rate is very poor. It is not really playable as it is. But at least it is working again.

Any suggestions of how to improve Frame Rate. I have adjusted the graphics settings down to a moderate level but I don't want to go any lower as I am loosing image quality. 

Edited July 10, 2020 by RUSTYMORLEY

[Spinners]

48 minutes ago, RUSTYMORLEY said:

Yes Spinners been a while since my last visit, had totally lost WOE. 

Well I got the game back up and running but the Frame Rate is very poor. It is not really playable as it is. But at least it is working again.

Any suggestions of how to improve Frame Rate. I have adjusted the graphics settings down to a moderate level but I don't want to go any lower as I am loosing image quality. 

No not really. I'm not the greatest on that sort of thing and it doesn't help that the elderly game we love isn't optimised for modern hardware. 

When my W7/i5 PC went t1ts up in 2016 I could have bought something bigger and better but I took a long break away from Strike Fighters and came back in 2018 to play SF1 et al on an elderly XP machine before treating myself to a new W10 PC at the start of 2019 when I retired. I don't have any issues with frame rates but I do have an issue with hills and mountains on the far horizon being white - not brilliant in the desert or Vietnam! 

[RUSTYMORLEY]

20 hours ago, Spinners said:

No not really. I'm not the greatest on that sort of thing and it doesn't help that the elderly game we love isn't optimised for modern hardware. 

When my W7/i5 PC went t1ts up in 2016 I could have bought something bigger and better but I took a long break away from Strike Fighters and came back in 2018 to play SF1 et al on an elderly XP machine before treating myself to a new W10 PC at the start of 2019 when I retired. I don't have any issues with frame rates but I do have an issue with hills and mountains on the far horizon being white - not brilliant in the desert or Vietnam! 

I think it is the old story, SF1 is not really compatible with the latest versions of Windows.

[Geary]

I have over 50 SF1 installs that work fine with the latest version of Windows 10.

[RUSTYMORLEY]

On 7/11/2020 at 7:17 PM, Geary said:

I have over 50 SF1 installs that work fine with the latest version of Windows 10.

How is your rig set up, and have you used any additional Mods or something to get it to work okay. ???

[Geary]

 

22 hours ago, RUSTYMORLEY said:

How is your rig set up, and have you used any additional Mods or something to get it to work okay. ???

This is my rig set up:

Asus Essentio CM6830-07

- Intel i7-3770 QuadCore 3.4GHz CPU

- 16GB DDR3 PC3-12800 (800MHz) RAM (2x8GB)

- 4GB GDDR5 EVGA Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Video

- 1TB WD Black SATA-III 7200RPM Hard Drive

- 3TB WD Black SATA-III 7200RPM Hard Drive

- Corsair CX750M 750Watt Power Supply

- MS Windows 10 Professional 64-bit

 

ALL my installs are modded.

 

Have you tried 'My SF1 in Windows 10' explained further up in this post?

 

I'm not sure what causes SF1 to fail in Windows 10 but first it seems to be DirectX 9 missing.    So, install 'directx_Jun2010_redist.exe.'

Then, installing to the default directory seems to cause problems.   So, install to the root directory or a separate drive.

Then, the default compatibility mode causes problems.    So, I set my compatibility mode to 'Windows XP (Service Pack 3).'  AND 'Run as administrator.'

Then, multiple Windows 10 updates cause issues.   I apply all Windows 10 updates.  Still have SF1 working installs.

I use Nvidia graphics cards and Nvidia updates sometimes cause problems.   So, install the 'HDR Mod' for your graphics card, either Nvidia or AMD/ATI.  The ENB series files are the only part of the HDR mod I use.

 

SF1 is built for 32-bit operating systems.  Usually single core processors.  I use the '4gb_patch.exe' because it's supposed to allow single cpu core apps to take advantage of more than one core.  Whether it works or not I don't know, but it doesn't seem to stop the game from playing.

 

I don't know that ALL this is necessary but it works for me.

 

 

 

[RUSTYMORLEY]

2 hours ago, Geary said:

 

This is my rig set up:

Asus Essentio CM6830-07

- Intel i7-3770 QuadCore 3.4GHz CPU

- 16GB DDR3 PC3-12800 (800MHz) RAM (2x8GB)

- 4GB GDDR5 EVGA Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Video

- 1TB WD Black SATA-III 7200RPM Hard Drive

- 3TB WD Black SATA-III 7200RPM Hard Drive

- Corsair CX750M 750Watt Power Supply

- MS Windows 10 Professional 64-bit

 

ALL my installs are modded.

 

Have you tried 'My SF1 in Windows 10' explained further up in this post?

 

I'm not sure what causes SF1 to fail in Windows 10 but first it seems to be DirectX 9 missing.    So, install 'directx_Jun2010_redist.exe.'

Then, installing to the default directory seems to cause problems.   So, install to the root directory or a separate drive.

Then, the default compatibility mode causes problems.    So, I set my compatibility mode to 'Windows XP (Service Pack 3).'  AND 'Run as administrator.'

Then, multiple Windows 10 updates cause issues.   I apply all Windows 10 updates.  Still have SF1 working installs.

I use Nvidia graphics cards and Nvidia updates sometimes cause problems.   So, install the 'HDR Mod' for your graphics card, either Nvidia or AMD/ATI.  The ENB series files are the only part of the HDR mod I use.

 

SF1 is built for 32-bit operating systems.  Usually single core processors.  I use the '4gb_patch.exe' because it's supposed to allow single cpu core apps to take advantage of more than one core.  Whether it works or not I don't know, but it doesn't seem to stop the game from playing.

 

I don't know that ALL this is necessary but it works for me.

 

 

 

Thanks very much for your information Geary.  It is worth taking a look at some of the things you have suggested.  I might just get lucky and get things running well again , enough to add all my SF1 aircraft which I have got stored in a storage file. I think it is worth a shot. I will start with installing Direct X 9 and progress from there. 

I very much appreciate your reply and the information you have posted, it may even help others who have got similar problems with Windows 10.

Thank you Geary.

RUSTY

[plague]

DgVoodoo2 worked for me. Just drop the dlls provided in your main install