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Süßes Teil. Echt cool.

The Tomcat was a very nice bird. No question about it. It was well promoted in the cinema with "Top Gun" movie. A lot of its reputation came from this movie. The Tomcat had an outstanding performance as interceptor. It was designed to defend the US carrier battle groups against soviet bombers. It was the first plane with lift body design but it was the last fighter with swing wings. And the swing wings are the weakpoint (not only at the Tomcat, also at the MiG-23 etc.) The swing wing design is heavy and potential dangerous for the pilot. Cracks on the swing wings grounded very often the entire Tomcat fleet. As a dogfighter the F-14 performed not very wellagainst german MiG-29s, while israeli F-15s made a much better job in test fights against the german Fulcrums. The design of the Eagle is much more reliable. This plane had an outstanding performance to withstand battle damages. In one case 1982 a syrian MiG shot a missile on an Eagle and the half wing of the F-15 was blown away. The F-15 managed the way home. In an other case a SAM destroyed a whole wing of a F-15 and also this bird came home safely. I doubt that a Tomcat would have survived such battle damages. A better reliability, better battle damage resistance and a great performace in combat. Thatswhy i vote for the Eagle. But the be honest: the Tomcat looks better ;-)

I think the Eagle was better. Its in service still today, the Tomcat isnt.

Have a small problem. I wanted to try out the LoFi outfit of the forum and now i find no way to reset the old HiFi style.

Its a good point. And it would be nice to confirm the statement of the remark. That a western nation like France has broken the own embargo is not really surprising for me. Politicians say often one thing and do exactly the opposite. The german example would be that officially it is not allowed to sell german weapons to middle east. In reality West Germany sold Israel the M-48 tanks which fought in 6 day war.

Hot girl. But this is no R-73 missile.

An other picture from an israeli Museum i found in the net: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Israel---Ai...1399c12c90ba151 interessting is the remark: "501 (cn 1) Despite the official story that this is an IAI Nesher, a check of the aircraft ID plates in the wheel wells reveals that this is really the first production Dassault Mirage 5J. On display in the Israel Air Force Museum."

All you cant understand is german. An update will come when my microphone is working again. At the moment it is striking and i dont know why.

I made the tutorial "my way to make terrains" for the SFP1,WOX sims. It works with FE too. Simply look in the tutorials. try it out and if else problems, then ask again.

No it was intended as the soviet counterpart to the F-111 fighters. In the hands of excellent pilots the 23 had an excellent perfomance. But with normal pilots at the controll the 23 was an underperfomer. And with bad pilots it was a nightmare. The same like the Fokker DR.1 in WW1.

Normaly the fabrication numbers are placed in the wheelbay. At the MiG-21 it is in the main gear, but also in some cases in the front wheel bay. Its only a guess, but i think at the Nesher it could be placed at the same places. I would try to look at this places and try to find out wheter there are some sort of fabrication type shields with the name of the manufacturer or the "Made in Israel" or "Made in France" or such things.

The MiG-23MLD polk in the GDR (east germany) was left there in the late 80th because a lot of staff officers of the Soviet HQ in Germany were pilots and were only trained on the MiG-23. To keep their pilot licence they had to fly a certain amount of hours per year. They found simply not the time to make their staff job and at the same moment do a reschooling (hope this is the right term) on the MiG-29 or Su-27.

To believe is one thing, to know the truth is different. And to know the truth it would be neccessary to check it out. I found following picture of the Nesher in the net: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Israel---Ai...next_id=0841989 It is taken at Hatzerim IAF museum, if i have understood it correct. But Hatzerim is some 1000 km away from my home, so i cant check it out myself. Perhaps one of our Israeli friends could do it?

Yeah, true argument, thatswhy the ? in the title. I think it should be possible to check it out. Perhaps a Nesher is displayed at a museum, and so it should be possible to look wheter they have type shields and production numbers which indicated that they are made by France or not. Perhaps our Mr Nesher from Holon could visit an israeli museum (isnt there one at Hazor?) and check it out. I dont know where else the Nesher bird is displayed.

In the german air magazin "Fliegerrevue" i found an interessting article by Tom Cooper who wrote that the widly known story that the Nesher was made in Israel by IAI was a fake. Cooper wrote that the Nesher was built by Dassault in France and was secretly shipped with US transport planes to Israel. American technicians reassembled the planes in Israel and then handed it over to the Heyl Ha'Avir (IAF). He also wrote, that the prove that the Nesher was made in France is the fact, that the planes have french fabrication numbers and signs (Typenschild is the german term). Fliegerrevue 7/2009 page 64 If this would be right, the often told story that the Mossad had stolen the Mirage 5 blueprints from Switzerland would be also a fake.

Poor mans aircraft were they called. Its time that this old outdated expensive and often unreliable beasts are phased out.

Its an ekranoplane. It was designed as a very fast ship (500km/h) which can also hover over land. Armed with Sunburn ship to ship missiles is was a considerable threat to NATO surface vessels.

In reality the advatage of the F-15A radar range against the MiG-23ML is not as big as you think. The reason is that the RCS of the F-15 is very big in comparision with the Flogger.

Danke für den Link, doch ich suche das Teil von 1997, nicht den NASA simulator von heute.

Let the F-35. Not needed expensive toy! A-10 is really needed. Save the live of lots of our soldiers in an enviroiment the F-35 would fail.

Ich weiß es ist eine blöde Art, aber ich weiß mir einfach keinen Rat mehr. Also ich war mit meinem Sohn in der Deutschen Raumfahrtausstellung in Morgenröthe Rautenkranz. War wirklich interessant. Gab allen möglichen und unmöglichen Kram über die bemannte Raumfahrt zu sehen, inclusive der Jacke von Tom Hanks, die er in Apollo 13 getragen hat. Für die Kinder hatten die dort ein paar Computer stehen, wo man sich selber eine Raumstation zusammenbauen konnte. Sohni wollte das Programm unbedingt haben um auch zu Hause bauen zu können. Nur gab es das Teil lediglich als Demo. Es war als CD im Buch "Die internationale Raumstation" aus der Reihe Was ist Was vom Tessloff Verlag 1997. Tja und nun bin auf der Suche nach dem vollständigen Spiel. Hat jemand da eine Ahnung wo man es finden kann, oder ob man es eventuell downloaden kann etc?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX9BspVCjeE&hl=de see yourself

"One small step ...", perhaps the most used phrases when talking about space and astronautics. Yesterday, the german french TV station ARTE broadcasted the 40 years old original transmission of the german TV station ARD of the moon landing and moon walk of the Apollo 11 crew. I sat in front of the TV screen and waited for the famous words. BUT Armstrong climbed out of Eagle, steped down the ladder, was talking about the soil, that it looks like some kind of powder, but no "One small step ..." then he walked around, conected with some sort of string with the Lunar Module, then Aldrin came out, they planted the flag ... Later the german TV moderator said, that Armstrong had told this words, but he was'nt! Not in reality. I think he was intended to say this words, but he was so overwhelmed to stand on the moon that he simply forgot to say it.

Als Trainer würde ich noch die L-39 Albatros vorschlagen. Nettes kleines Ding aus Tschechland.

Afghanistan ist auch verdammt staubig. Ich kann mich noch daran erinnern wie vor den ersten Einsätzen der CH-53 alle Ratschläge ehemaliger NVA Leute in den Wind geschlagen wurden, weil man ja staubige und sandige Umgebungen von Übungen im Mittelmeerraum und den USA, sowie vom Somalia Einsatz kannte. Blöd war nur, daß die in Afghanistan anderen Sand (scharfkantig) haben, den die Turbinen der Helis nun gar nicht mochten. Also war ein anderes Staubschutzsystem fällig. Hätte man vorher wissen können, weil ja die ollen NVA Leutchens in der "guten alten" Zeit mit ein paar Pullen Wodka Bestechungsgeld so einiges an Tips und Tricks aus der sowjetischen Zeit am Hindukusch in Erfahrung brachten. Ich kann aus eigener Anschauung berichten, daß deutsch sowjetische Saufgelage die absolute Härte waren (allerdings nur für Buckels). Ach so, wußtet ihr, daß einige DDR Mi-24D Mitte der 80er Jahre in Afghanistan zum Einsatz kamen? Allerdings ohne Piloten. Die Maschinen wurden zur Garantieinspektion nach Moskau geschickt und Kolja hat sie ohne Wissen der Deutschen gleich an den Hindukusch weitergeleitet. Nach etlichen Nachfragen kamen die Doras dann etwa ein halbes Jahr später zurück in die DDR und unsere Techniker haben die Kisten nicht wiedererkannt. Jede Menge Sand in allen möglichen Ecken, Wartung war überhaupt nicht erfolgt, Ölwechsel mußte bei uns gemacht werden etc... Dazu kamen noch provisorisch geflickte Einschußlöcher und als Clou hatte Kolja die Maschinen noch nicht einmal gewaschen bevor er ihnen einen neuen Tarnanstrich verpaßt hat. Die haben einfach den Sand an den Kisten mit überspritzt, so daß die Außenhaut zum Teil aussah wie lackiertes Sandpapier. Die Koljas, das waren schon so richtig gute Freunde. Wer solche Freunde hat braucht keine Feinde.