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The answer is simply. The SR-71 never violated soviet airspace dramatically, as the U-2 had done and the KAL-007 Jumbo had done twice. There are a lot of examples of shot down US planes and all of them were shot down deep into soviet airspace or allied airspace.. The US was not foolish enough to risk the Blackbird in deep penetration recon missions. In international airspace the soviets fired no single round. It would have been an act of war, they shoot only in their airspace, as an act of selfdefence.

Paralympics starts today.

The trick over the baltic sea was, that the SR-71 had to pass avery small corridor between swedish and east german/polish airspace. The MiG-25PD were started at Eberswalde Finow and were directed to the best point of intercept. So they reached nearly everytime perfect intercept positions 1.3 km behind the SR-71. In the Kola penisula area (Murmansk) the MiG-25 had only a very small chance to intercept a Blackbird, but also in this area the Blackbird was intercepted. Jug mentioned the MiG-25 of Belenko, but the MiG-25PD was a major step foreward.

http://shop.keypublishing.com/acatalog/afm...ember_2004.html The link to "Air Forces Monthly". This is one of the best military aviation magazins and i think you can trust it. By the way, one friend of me, who served out his time as radar operator told me, that he had watched such intercept operations on his radar screen.

The Mig-25PD was used to intercept SR-71 flight over the Baltic Sea in the 80th and they usually intercepted the Blackbird closed to 1.3 km distance hold this distance for a while and then flew home. This intercept missions were tracked by swedish radar stations. And for a while in "Air Forces Monthly" a report about this actions was to find.

I tried it a long time ago. No result. Seems to be that neutral is not working in Campaign.

Since month we all over the world must (can) see the daily soap opera or sitcom that is called US elections. Lets make a "not seriose" voting for US President. Please vote for your candidate!

The same as what happend with the germans some years ago. Dont dope and you has no chance.

Is it confirmed by independent sources or is it a fake like the North Korean Satellite?

Wrench, thanks. will check it out. Typhoid, its a strange thing, i tried and tried and treid and never got exploding planes on the runway. Do you have file airfield_SLB kurz.ini in your Midway folder? Never Enough, Armed Recon is not possible. There are no Truck routes set. Is no space for it on this small islands.

Roodpod, i think it is not as dramaticaly that US people dont know that there is a stat Georgia outside the USA. The same name, okay, can happen. In german we call this land Georgien and in the russian language sphere the name is Grussinia. More serios it is if people mix Chechenya with the Czech Republic. I remember very good the big laughter about George W Bush saying Russia should stop the war against Czech, some years ago. And now some words to all specialist about living in communist regimes. I dont know from where you have your knowledge. First hand it cant be. I still hear the western propaganda from the bad old days of Cold War in your words. And you are wrong. You are speaking like blind people about the rainbow. Why i have the right to say it? I had living in East Germany. The living in the socialist world was absolutly different then the living today. It was better and worser. It was happier and sader. It was richer and poorer. It depends on the fact you are focus on. The breakdown of the socialist/communist system had nothing to do with a strong beloning to freedom and democracy or whatever. The breakdown was the result of an absolutly stupid economical system. One example: Shopping in Moscow of the 80th, lets say you wanted to by 200 gramm cheese. First you had to enter a que for the cashier desk and had to wait. Then you had to pay the 200 gramm cheese and got a billet. With this billet you had to enter the the que in front of the Cheese desk. And after a long waiting time the clerk will give you exactly 200 gramm of cheese. If he had on the first attempt 10 gramm to much he will cut it off, till there were exactly 200 gramm. A second stupid example, this time from East Germany: The state buyed vegetable, eggs, rabits, ducks etc from the village people to put it into the shops of the towns. They gave lets say 25 Mark for each rabbit. In the shops the sold the rabits for the half price, also 12,50 Marks, also made a loss of 12,50 of each sold rabit. Can such an economy survive? If the socialist/communist would have been able to gave their people the living standard of the western contries we would have the Soviet Union and there allies today.

Typhoid, could have something to do with WOE. I havent tested it with WOE, but i will do it as fast as possible. Wrench, if you would send me the lines of the added objects, then i could include them into an updated version of Midway terrain.

eraser, no good time for arms stock buying. USA will not fight for Georgia. The crisis will not be for long. It will come to a peace with a go back to status quo ante. Russia will nor occupy Abchasia and South Ossetia. They will destroy the georgian military infrastructure, the airfields, barracks, ammo storages, weapon factories etc, but no more. They will not attack the oil pipeline and they will surely not make a rush to Tiflis. It would be senseless. They could easily conquer the georgian capital, but they would face a terrible guerilla war and the russians know this. Thatswhy they will kick Saakashvili in his balls and thats it. By the end of this week it will be finished. By the way Saakashvili. Today he visited Gori, a town near the Ossetian border. Was nice to see how he paniced when he heard a helicopter closing. What a coward! Its "man" enough to sent soldiers into the die, but if face danger himself, then sh....ing into the trousers. What for a hero!

Wrench, The tiles i made by using satellite pictures , but unfortunatly i'm no big paintshop guru, so that some failures with the tiles appear. I hope they are not to big. Perhaps a more skilled tilemaker can make better tiles. To the Wildcats: I tried to make parked Wildcats but failed. They always were sunken into the soil. Thatswhy i have deleted it an wanted to contact the guy who made the F-4F. But then i have simply forgotten to do it. Sorry. With the US flag, it would be no problem to put one on the island, but i have no lod file for it. Typhoid. I tested the airfields a lot of times and had never problems with it. Thatswhy two questions: 1. which plane explodes and 2. which game (SFP1, WOE, WOV) do you use?

Its released at the download section now.

The best i have seen today was the shake hands of russian and georgian sportswomen on a medal ceremonyat the Olympic Games. It shows, the problems are made by politicians, not by the normal people.

I agree with you MigBuster. Diplomatic efforts were made in the last weeks. I know the german foreign minister was in Abchasia for negotiations 2 or 3 weeks ago. That something was cooking in this area was obviesly, but that the explosion came so fast was unexpected. Both sides should go back to status quo ante as soon as possible.

It was Churchill. But your statement is also true.

[MissionHeader] AircraftType=F-14A MissionMap=GermanyCE MissionType=RECON StartTime=8:30:00 StartDate=05/08/1982 [MissionData] FriendlyAirActivity=1 EnemyAirActivity=1 EnemyAirDefenseActivity=2 FriendlyAirDefenseActivity=2 PlayerMissionID=1 PlayerPositionID=1 MissionNumber=5123 AdjustStartPosition=FALSE AdjustBaseWaypoint=TRUE [Weather] WeatherType=SCATTERED WeatherAlt=2000.0 WeatherThickness=500.0 FogAmount=0.6 ContrailAlt=8000.0 StartWindDirection=120 StartWindSpeed=5.57222 WindGustingAmount=0.57222 [AircraftMission001] AircraftType=F-14A Name=SHOWTIME FormationType=SovietFighter Size=2 RandomChance=100 MissionType=RECON ObjectiveID=5 RatingForSuccess=100 StartOnGround=TRUE Position=682000.00,838000.00,0.0 Heading=290.0 Speed=0.0 Alignment=Enemy CarrierBased=TRUE Nation=USN AircraftNumber=10 Squadron= PilotTrainingStandard=EXCELLENT Loadout=Recon Waypoint[01].Command=TAXI Waypoint[01].Position=682000.00,838000.00,0.00 Waypoint[01].Size=0.0 Waypoint[01].Speed=0.0 Waypoint[02].Command=TAKEOFF Waypoint[02].Position=682000.00,838000.00,0.00 Waypoint[02].Size=0.0 Waypoint[02].Speed=0.0 Waypoint[03].Command=DEPART Waypoint[03].Position=682000.00,838000.00,0.00 Waypoint[03].Size=500.0 Waypoint[03].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[04].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[04].Position=517000.00,833000.00,1000.0 Waypoint[04].Size=1500.0 Waypoint[04].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[05].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[05].Objective=TRUE Waypoint[05].Position=458900,804000,1000.0 Waypoint[05].Size=1500.0 Waypoint[05].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[06].Command=WAYPOINT Waypoint[06].Position=567000.00,813000.00,1000.0 Waypoint[06].Size=1500.0 Waypoint[06].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[07].Command=APPROACH Waypoint[07].Position=682000.00,838000.00,0.00 Waypoint[07].Size=1500.0 Waypoint[07].Speed=240.0 Waypoint[08].Command=LAND_LINEUP Waypoint[08].Position=682000.00,838000.00,0.00 Waypoint[08].Size=0.0 Waypoint[08].Speed=0.0 Waypoint[09].Command=LAND_TOUCHDOWN Waypoint[09].Position=682000.00,838000.00,0.00 Waypoint[09].Size=0.0 Waypoint[09].Speed=0.0 [GroundMission001] GroundObjectType=CVA-63 Name=Orjol FormationType=Single Size=1 RandomChance=100 ObjectiveID=0 RatingForSuccess=100 Position=682000.00,838000.00,0.00 Heading=280.0 Speed=25.0 Alignment=ENEMY NavalObject=TRUE Carrier=TRUE Nation=USN ShipNumber=25 [GroundMission002] GroundObjectType=SumnerFram2 Name=Destroyer FormationType=ShipConvoy Size=4 RandomChance=100 ObjectiveID=1 RatingForSuccess=100 Position=681600.00,838000.00,0.00 Heading=280.0 Speed=25.0 Alignment=ENEMY NavalObject=TRUE Carrier=True Nation=USN ShipNumber=14

View File Midway Terrain version 1.1 MIDWAY TERRAIN ===================== I. Midway terrain is made for "Strike Fighters Project 1" SFP1. You can use it in Wings over Vietnam and Wings over Europe too. Wings over Israel can handle this terrain too, but the flight modells of prop driven planes shows anomalies in WOI. ============================================== II. Midway terrain covers a part of the Central Pacific Ocean with the atolls of Kure and Midway. It is the place were in 1942 a big Air-Sea-Battle was fought between the Imperial Japanese Navy and the US Navy. The japanese Navy was superior in numbers of ships, but the US side had some major advantages. No.1, the japanese communication code was broken, so that the US Navy commanders were able to read the enemy commands. No.2, the US had radar coverage, so that enemy surprise attacks were nearly impossible. No.3, the US had the superior number of airplanes which were deciding during the battle. The battle was fought as a pure air to sea combat. No single gunfire exchange between naval vessels took place. The result was that the japanese Navy lost 4 carriers and the US Navy lost 1 carrier. It was a impressive victory for the USA in Pacifice war theater. You can compare it with the Battle of Moscow on the Eastern Front or the first british victories in North Africa. Midway Terrain following target areas this are Kure Atoll (Neutral airbase) Eastern Island (Midway AB USMC) Sand Island (Midway USMC) ship formations Japan +Midway Occupation Force +Midway Support Force +Second Fleet Main Force ( 1 small carrier) +First Fleet Main Force (1 small carrier) +First Fleet Carrier Strike Force ( 4 carriers) USN +TF-16 (2 carrier) +TF-17 (1 carrier) ********************************************* III Known problems Up today it is impossible to take off and land from carriers while using single missions which are generated by random single mission screen. Thatswhy i added invisible airfields for taking off and landing in the centre of carrier formations. You will also start from the sea. This is not satisfying. Thatswhy it is the best to start the mission in the air to overcome this problem. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ IV. INSTALLATION 1.)unzip all files into your Terrain folder 2.)unzip Groundobject.rar into your Objects folder. It is neccessary that you download following files from Capuns homepage http://cplengineeringllc.com/SFP1/ yourself and unzip it into your Objects/Groundobject folder. 1. Akagi 2. Brooklyn 3. CV-5 4. Fla-MG (you need to download the Browning AAA gunner. From there you need the files BrowningAAA.LOD and BrowningAAA.bmp) 5. Liberty ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ V. Credits At this place i want to say thank you to the guys who made the groundobjects and who gave me the permission to use them in Midway terrain. Also a big thank you to Hinch for the Zuiho carrier and the japanese Battleship which is a moded Repulse etc. Thanks to TK for the great SFP1 sim family. And finally thanks to all guys who helped me with hints, advices etc. ******************************************* VI. Midway Terrain IS FREEWARE. COMMERCIAL USE IS NOT ALLOWED. GROUNDOBJECTS are forbitten to share. If you want to do this please contact the makers of this Groundobjects If you find bugs please post them in StrikeFighters section of Combatace.com forum. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ VII. Hope you enjoy it. Michael (Gepard) ============================================ VIII. Made in Germany August 2008 ============================================ IX. PS Q: How i can get Midway Terrain running in WOV, WOI or WOE A: 1. Open file Midway.ini 2. Look for line CatFile=..\Desert\Desert.cat 3. Replace this line with: for WOV: CatFile=..\VietnamSEA\VietnamSEA.cat for WOI: CatFile=..\IsraelME\IsraelME.cat for WOE: CatFile=..\GermanyCE\GermanyCE.cat Submitter Gepard Submitted 08/10/2008 Category Terrains

Also, the russian troops in South Ossetia are members of the GUS (Gemeinschaft unabhängiger Staaten, i think CIS is the english term, but i'm not sure.You can compare the GUS with the Commonwealth.) "peace keeping forces". They were sent in by the Council of the GUS, not by the russian government. They kept the peace since 1992. The main problem is, that the NATO invasion of the Kosovo in 1999 now gives the russian government all arguments to intervene in South Ossetia. If you remember, without backing of the UN the NATO started a military operation to push out the Serbs of the Kosovo. The aim was to protect the Kosovo Albaniens. As far as good, but the Kosovo was serbian heartland since more than 1000 years, long before the first Albaniens imigrated into this land. Today the Kosovo is an independent contry. Compare the situation with South Ossetia. The "owner by law" of this land, the Georgians, started a military operation against a "minority" (I set minority in "" because in South Ossetia the Ossetians are the majority). The same had done the Serbs in Kosovo ( in Kosovo the Albanians were the majority). With the same right the NATO protected the Kosovo Albaniens, the Russians now can protect the Ossetians. With the same right the NATO bombed Belgrad the russians can bomb Tiflis. The NATO action against Serbia had opened the way for russian strikes against Georgia. It are two sides of one medal. Exactly the same. If you vote against the russian action against Georgia, you must vote against the NATO action in Kosovo.Unfortunatly. I dont write it to support Russia. You will not hear a "Slava Rossia" from my lips. But you will also not hear "Viva Georgia". It is a god dam situation, caused by stupid politicians, who manipulate law and order for their own favor. And this on all sides. The bad boy here is Saakashvili, but his caucasian counterparts are not much better. Of course Russia has vital interessts in Caucasus, but Europe and America too. The worst thing would be that the actions of caucasian blockheads bring back a new East-West confrontation. We have in Germany a proverb that fits perfect for the Caucasus region. "Wer solche Freunde hat braucht keine Feinde." Word by word translated: "Who has such friends needs no enemies."

The storyline of the conflict. ( surely not complete) -Back in mid 19th century Russia occupied the Caucasus area. A lot of uprisings were suppresed by russian military. -October 1917 revolution in Russia. Forced by the circumstances Lenin opend the way to independence of peoples of former Russian Empire. -In 1918 some caucasus peoples (re)founded their own states. Georgia was one of it. - 1918 to 1922 civil war in Russia -Up to 1921 or 22 all of this "white" republics were blown away by military red forces. -In 1922 the now "red" republics became part of the USSR. - 1925 Stalin, a Georgian, became head of the USSR - The exact date i havent found, but Stalin cutted off South Ossetia from Russian Federation and included it into Georgian Socialist Republic. -1942 german forces reached the caucasus region and tried to start an anti russian revolution. They had only minor success, but Stalin banned hundret thousends of people to sibiria. -1991 the Soviet Union is history. The GUS is founded. Yelzin offered to the peoples of the formes USSR so much independence as they want. As result Georgia is reborn. But Georgia is not only the home of Georgians. There are a lot of other peoples (Abchasians, Ossetians, etc) which also attemped to reach their independence, but the Georgians denied their attempts. -1992 in South Ossetia elections were held and over 90% of the Ossetians voted for independence from Georgia. Georgia sent police forces and the first war broke out. In the same year the GUS achieved a casefire and put in "peace keeping" forces. From this point South Ossetia was independend from Georgia. - 2004 elections in Georgia. After elections Saakashvilli became leader of Georgia (Revolution of Roses). - 2007 Saakashvili sent his police forces against political demonstrations in Tiflis. Reelection was forged, by statements of opposition, by statements of EU and UN officials. US politicians claimed free and fair elections. -2008 tensions in the region raised. georgian attempts to regain lost territories. Political missions of european politicians failed. - night from 07.August 2008 to 08. August 2008, georgian forces opend the fire on south ossetian and "peace keeping forces"positions. Georgian forces started to invade South ossetia, tried to blitz against their capital Swinggali. -By high noon 08. August 2008 the town Swinggali is nearly encirceld by georgian forces. Georgian artillery shell the town mercyless. Georgian airstikes destroy the hospital of the town. Over 1000 civilists die (be carefull with numbers, in this region of the world the guys have very big balls) -Ossetian president cried for urgend help, the russians start to air support South Ossetia and by end of the day the georgian invading forces were pushed away. -By the end of the day russian T-90, mobile artillery and other forces reached South Ossetia. -Today Saakashvili tells the world, that he is innocent victim of russian invasion. To be continued

Not lies, damn lies, and statistics... but lies < dam lies < statistics. Or how Winni Churchill said, " I trust only the statistics that i have forged myself.

Great show in Beijing. In London i will wait for the "Free Scotland" banners. Will be funny to see how the englishmen will react.