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well for my purposes that might be okayish. esp with the LOD viewer changing a mesh name is nothing now, but dancing the coordinates still takes some time. sooo if the positions match i'm in business, even if i gotta tweek it some on the final. as stated above, tearing up C-130.net and google for USAF serials (active, AFRes and ANG) through about 1992 (maybe later 90s but not past 99) wouldnt be a all air force serials like most everyone else does that would be freaking huge. aiming for two serials per unit, 3 eras a decade plus maybe two for Vietnam and one for ODS. also probably broken into Pacific and European groups with ANG and AFRes birds mixed as the pics show them being involved. not a whole lot of work then

looks great. one drawback of the decal as skin method is it will highlight any model irregularities. had similar working with the Galaxy and Starlifter. one got fixed by setting postion to front rather than top (probably not applicable) the other by putting a patch decal if you will over that spot in the very bottom of the decal.ini. and some just never worked out (tried putting "Qatar" title on bottom of C-17, shot a skewd version of same on the sides as well as clear version on bottom. wound up leaving it off) one other note, your left outer wings seem abit lighter than the inner. are you using different tga for both parts?

or the crew chief!

two questions one for Dels and one for the greater community watching this project Dels- will your current E serve as a good stand in for decal placement on these new birds? i asked awhile back but honestly don't remember the answer CA at large- i am starting to do my research on ANG use of this aircraft, in particular the A,B,E and H variants. once ive got decal placement down (the decal.ini) would anyone be interested in joining me on this? i will be working the SEA and Euro 1 skins as that is mainly what i have reference for (esp the World Air Power Journal book on the ANG from 1992) but once the decal ini and templates are good should be nothing to plug in the markings for later units (Air Mobility Command era esp light gray) this is still abit of a ways off, as i am now looking up good reference pics and serials on C-130.net then airliners.net and google. My goal is to have two serial per operational unit in a skin

last ones til after the weekend. some RL to take care of and got to quit being lazy and finish the decal.ini (i always put off plugging in the landing gear until the first skin or 2d one. cant go to far in though or would have many ini's to edit)

texture size not so much with placement. but mue's viewer saves ALOT of time in finding mesh name (most important) and where that mesh is in space and time (extremely close second) ive had huge meshes not show for being .025 off a measurement, and definately had fun in the older days trying to figure out what a mesh was called ( remember the old days of messaging and meshname threads?) for those less software savvy. slight bit more detail on that... center of a tail is generally something to the tune of say -15.0,8.0 or -23.50,9.75. setting coordinates to 0,0 and hoping it covers all as a 1:1 only works if the tail portion is at one extreme side or the other of the tga. and that would be bigger still. to cover an airliner or cargo plane right now i use two fuselage (1024) two tail (512) and two engines as well as some times one radome that's reversable (usually 256). thats to pack a fairly appropriate amount of detail into each one, esp given in the case of jumbos they are really more at a distance eye candy and not main attractions.

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amariani, yes and no. the decal ini dance is individual level of difficulty, i've grown quite accustomed to it myself. as for details (esp panel lines) there are tricks to it. with the heavies i've been working on, doors and windows are a layer of the template up on the top (so its easier for them to show of course) and other parts such as cargo doors or exhaust ports can also be added on near top level. though they usually start on the skin, i plug em into the tga for reference on other parts in relation to the doors and windows. the bottom levels of the template are the colors, stripes, words etc that change plane to plane. as for the panel lines the main bare metal skin itself has darker than necessary panel lines throughout and try to remember to set opacities to around 75-80% for main colors and 85 to maybe 90 for stripes, text and logos. i'm experimenting with some panel lines on the side of yeyeye's 757 this time around but it's not a main focus. also it helps to have as much on each decal as possible (meaning fewer decals per plane). Using the Phantom as an example, a right upper wing decal with the camo, insignia, stencils if from the late 70s, and weathering. that level of detail would need at least a 1024 size tga. again, it is doable, you just have to be a millionaire with nothing else to do to have the time to work it

well you did say slightly

oh yeah (Gibbs slaps self on back of head...) need more units. one day maybe

nice. any plans to do USAF squadron hacks?

i've thought of simlar for the naval phantoms, making a weathering pattern tga to go over the skin (naval paint patterns are the same aircraft to aircraft, it the amount of corrosion control touch ups that is different). do 6 and repeat in different orders across the 12 or 14 birds assigned. CAG bird and XO bird would be the best looking as they were the best maintained USAF Phantoms would be a PITA as you would have to 1. line up the camo for the major types 2. make 2-3 variations for the major schemes 3.assign a major scheme as primary (camoLwin etc) then the vairations for the others (camoLwing003) 4. redo the decal.ini so the camo's are up at the top of the ini, and squadron specific stuff overlays on top of that. 5. unless your do it all in 512, the decal folder will be freaking HUGE. i know from experience as 7 airlines for one skin produced a 84MB folder for one era. yes thats just decals for a mid 80s skin alone on a project that will feature 5 time periods it is possible, and the results would be outstanding esp with random generation (look at how many squadrons in 1983 had SEA, SEA Wraparound and Euro 1 on the flightline). to get there might turn one off from modding though!

rugged yes. cheap? well cheaper than the F-35 anyhow. and look at Brazil's AF-1s, also known previously as the A-4 Skyhawks for example of how it is being done already

wondering if any of our Indian friends can clear up if this is fact or internet fiction, though it does seem more plausable as an Indian LWF http://zittara.com/2016/04/23/super-hunter-jet-to-be-in-production-in-india/

looks good, now i'm wondering how far off the DAT Strikemaster is from a Tudor for the current team

yakarov beat me to it. game selects main skin first, then based off of start year. i have multiple units or airlines on my multi engine skins because of setting the unit or airline as the serial number. in the case of the airliners i create a bare metal or white skin, then add the airline markings (2048 sized for the fuselage ones; they run the whole length). so there is a work around, it is just time consuming the pic is the same skin on all Airbuses (L90 iirc) to show what im talking the hardest part is the first one, getting everything lined up. after that, if you make a template like with a skin its just pluggin in the different items.

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oooh is he going offline? (cue the 60s Batman announcer) WILL .......DAT give up the ghost? WILL .......all those files become abandonware? IS ............it worth it to propagate that rumor just to mess with him? TUNE IN NEXT WEEK for answers to these and other burning questions same CA time, same CA place (sorry bout the ot hijack RC)

well as i've said it isnt completely dead. i know of several project out there but the folks seem to be on sabbatical at this moment. btw check pm sir

not to mention that the alure of his site is not the quality of the mods, but rather the variety he has that we don't (Connies, various WW2 ships, the above requested). Also i think most of the 3d modellers wont recreate the wheel since it is available, just difficult to get. F24A, careful what you ask for. those are set to Gen1 (means some minimal conversion at best) and esp props have wonky FMs esp in SF2.

new customer for the DA paint hangar.... after a little more placement for the tail and engines

would be nice. Veltro's the one most likely to tackle such a thing (he did make an HS748) but has been out the loop since july

i did, but Ed's the modeller and he's been out of touch since July. it would have needed a few mission equipment add ons esp on the wingtips IIRC

View File DC-8 Series by Veltro2k Douglas DC-8 series By Veltro2k This mod features three versions of the Douglas DC-8 jetliner and historical skinsets from introduction in the early '60s through the mid '80s. A little something for eye candy around the airfields or to run intercepts on. Versions *DC-8 representing the original DC-8-10/20/30/40 versions with the quieting tubes on the exhaust *DC-8-50 representing the final short fuselage version and JT3D engines without quieting tubes *DC-8-60 representing two of the final new build versions with stretched fuselage. *several historical skinsets for all models *flight and nations ini edits to allow airliner nation and a spaced out in line formation Installation unzip and load into mods folder. allow merging Known Issues * The cockpit is the same pit as in all V2k's big jet planes. Not proper but the plane was meant for eye candy not regular missions * The DC-8-50 model has a seam running along the spine. Until Veltro makes an appearance again this will be there. It is not noticeable at a distance *This is a huge mod (4 1/2 GB) due to how i've made the skins, or specifically the tgas for the fuselage.It takes a bigger decal to paint the side of an airliner Credits Veltro2k original model daddyairplanes skin and tga work, some ini edits stratos, whiteknight06604 last chance, eyes on testing I hope you enjoy this mod as much as i enjoyed making it Kevin Unruh aka daddyairplanes 28 Oct 2016 Submitter daddyairplanes Submitted 10/29/2016 Category Other