SF2: North Atlantic Ideas

[DWCAce 19]

 

 

You live under a rock?

 

 

Pretty much. While growing up I read mostly history and non-fiction (much to the dismay of my teachers). Almost everyday in 5th grade I had 'The Great Book of Modern Warplanes' in my backpack, which weighed more than all of my other books combined...and I walked to school.

[Gr.Viper 131]

Pretty much. While growing up I read mostly history and non-fiction (much to the dismay of my teachers). Almost everyday in 5th grade I had 'The Great Book of Modern Warplanes' in my backpack, which weighed more than all of my other books combined...and I walked to school.

Ahh.. been there. - Tell the class what book you've read this summer. -Oh, it was a book about shipwreck salvage involving diving operations, welding, pumping and the history of submersibles...

 

A translation of this one, BTW. Awesome read. Find it. http://www.amazon.com/Marine-Salvage-Joseph-N-Gores/dp/071535454X http://www.amazon.com/Marine-Salvage-Unforgiving-Business-Cure/dp/B000ISQ8GE

Eh.. the original print copy is well over $100 now... wow...

 

The late author was.. interesting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Gores

Edited December 5, 2011 by Gr.Viper

[+Stary 2,426]

(joins the prestigeous "have yet to read RSR" club)

[+EricJ 3,943]

Pretty much. While growing up I read mostly history and non-fiction (much to the dismay of my teachers). Almost everyday in 5th grade I had 'The Great Book of Modern Warplanes' in my backpack, which weighed more than all of my other books combined...and I walked to school.

 

When I was younger me too...

 

But yeah it is a good read though. Sure it's not terribly accurate in most cases but the fun stuff starts at Chapter 17. The AWACs strike scenario is something I suggested for Operation Darius but since there weren't any AWACs anyways (Iran's only one crashed).

 

But back on topic if carriers are sinkable then it opens up a whole new can of worms.

[+hgbn 91]

(joins the prestigeous "have yet to read RSR" club)

 

Count me in too

[macelena 1,070]

RSR is a must read, indeed

 

 

About SF2NA, i guess that the game will continue the series of events portrayed in SF2E, my guess is coming all the way, from crusaders-phantoms-tomcats, for USN fighters, the same way SF2E did for the USAF (Hun, Phantom, Eagle) along with some other aircraft (Corsairs for Warthogs). However, i wouldn´t expect much participation by non US forces, maybe some RAF in Scotland (should Scotland appear in the map) given the lack of carriers and so. Besides that, i would like that the game included some late USN Phantoms, at least the F-4N (i don´t see the S coming).

 

About the impact on other releases, it would be great for a campaign about the USN in the Lebanon War. I wonder if an E-2C skin for the IDFAF would do fine. Also, the North Atlantic will provide finally a good scenario for DLCs such as the F-4K and F-8E(FN).BTW, I doubt the Mirage F1 is really to be much at home in this scenario, should it be released as a DLC or an Expansion. However, for SF2E and others, Mirage F1 completes the French AF for all the time frame, as anyone else (US, UK or Germany) are getting Phantoms while the Armee de´l air remains with the Mirage IIIC much after it becomes obsolescent.

 

To summarise, my guess is that it will be SF2E for the USN. Aside from any "code" improvement or anything like that, i guess it will be as great as any other in the series.

[JediMaster 451]

I have 2 versions of that "Great Book of Modern Warplanes." The later one with revised stuff I've read far less than the original.

 

I still laugh when I look at the "unknown" MiGs in there. I love the one that looks like it's halfway between a Fulcrum and a Foxhound, but I forget whether they called it a 29 or a 31.

 

I've been bringing a book to school, and then work, since 6th grade. In the intervening decades I've read hundreds of books, if not more. Well, as I reread ones I like, perhaps not more UNIQUE books, but if you count the number of times I've reread Lord of the Rings, that Warplanes book, Red Storm Rising and Hunt for Red October, my Gulf Air War Debrief, 2001, Foundation Trilogy, etc, it probably totals well up there.

Edited December 6, 2011 by JediMaster

[+SkateZilla 49]

Besides that, i would like that the game included some late USN Phantoms, at least the F-4N (i don´t see the S coming).

 

F-4N and F-4S were listed on the "objects list" after the November update. But TK has said not all objects from that list are in game...

 

But:

So lets start crossing off things from the "list", based on screens posted on TW facebook/google+/twitter.

 

A-4M

A-4N

A-6E (New/Updated From Merged Install?)

A-6E_79 (New/Updated From Merged Install?)

A-7E_74 (Updated From Merged Install?)

A-7E_79 (Updated From Merged Install?)

EA-6B Check.

E-2C Check.

F-4J_74 (Updated From Merged Install?)

F-4N

F-4S

F-14A Check.

F-14A_77 Check.

Lim-6bis (Re-Badged MIG-17)

Lim-6M (Re-Badged MIG-17)

Mirage3E (New/Updated Version of DLC?)

Mirage3EL (New/Updated Version of DLC?)

Mirage3OF (New/Updated Version of DLC?)

Mirage3OA (New/Updated Version of DLC?)

Mirage3OFA (New/Updated Version of DLC?)

Mirage5DE (New/Updated Version of DLC?)

Mirage5E2 (New/Updated Version of DLC?)

Mirage5SDE (New/Updated Version of DLC?)

RF-8G (New/Updated From Merged Install?)

RF-8G_77 (New/Updated From Merged Install?)

Yak-38

Tu-95K-22

Tu-95RT Check.

Tu-22KD

Tu-22KPD

Tu-22M2 Check.

Tu-22M3 Check.

Tu-22PD

Tu-22RD

Tu-16K-10-26 Check.

Tu-16K-26

Tu-16P

Tu-16R

Tu-16RM-1

[SFP1Ace 33]

Tu-16K-26 Check.

Tu-22KD Check.

[JediMaster 451]

I hope for the Yak-38 and the obvious Soviet carrier implication, but...

[+daddyairplanes 8,689]

do we have sub launched Tomahawks? yes still thinking RSR here and OP Doolittle in particular. Hey if lexx_luthor can make them supermaps for his SAC flying why couldnt the map be extended a bit farther to include Scotland and Norway, Murmansk?

 

edit: just google mapped that. that map would be huge!!! could poss use BoB england and North Cape maps for land terrian but sheesh!!! still if it could be done the possibilities....

Edited December 12, 2011 by daddyairplanes

[+Stary 2,426]

but... possibilities...

[snapper 21 767]

So who is up for the bombing Keflavik airfield from 500 feet in a B-52?

[+Dave 2,318]

So who is up for the bombing Keflavik airfield from 500 feet in a B-52?

 

As long as we have escort because we know how well that mission went.

[+JAT81500 135]

Some double tails ?

[+Dave 2,318]

Yeah the Russian twin tail kind.

[macelena 1,070]

I saw that thread, wich interestingy brought the B-52 raid part of RSR to my mind

http://combatace.com/topic/69859-meet-the-b-52-video-on-youtube/page__pid__545392?do=findComment&comment=545392

[+daddyairplanes 8,689]

say again Beagle, one tail or two?

[Teras 67]

i hope for a really nice eye candy graphics...

[+Stary 2,426]

I care more for gameplay mechanics (multi-weapons ships, helicopters, targetable ASMs) terain engine and pure visuals improvements than pure new planes content, I'm sure those in powers here (DAVE and bunch) will start sort of "SF2NA: Enhanced OOB" mod with extra units etc days after release.

 

Can we program new avionics and engine and such? No, so let's hope TK focuses on those, the new planeset as per WIP shots already looks impressive to me BTW given the "no cash bugdet title" standard answer

Edited January 6, 2012 by Stary

[+Dave 2,318]

Yes are going to do an enhanced version. I'm with Stary though eye candy is great but the sim mechanics is what I'm looking for.

[Teras 67]

lets be explicit , TK aint going to change his plan from sim-lite to sim-real! i hope he do but he ain't

Edited January 6, 2012 by Teras

[+Stary 2,426]

lets be explicit , TK aint going to change his plan from sim-lite to sim-real! i hope he do but he ain't

Teras, I wan't it to be still the sim-lite formula similar to as it is, just some more gameplay mehanics added to it, some new avionics modes (It's F-14 after all) and such

plus of course the eye-candy that is there judging by screens

[+Brain32 265]

Yup I agree, no time for switchology here either, just a bit more bling...

 

BTW how long has it been since the last update? Last one was like...last year...

[+Stary 2,426]

BTW how long has it been since the last update? Last one was like...last year...

There's allways a calm before a storm...