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Hello.

Last year, I posted a thread here to ask anyone if they had any information on a possible Su-37 'Flounder-A'; an enemy that appears in the 1994 flight sim 'US Navy Fighters'.  It was apparently, an A-10-like CAS aircraft, designed to support Russian troops against US forces in-game.  No one did have any info.  But since then, I have managed to find a small number of images that point to the aircraft's possible existence as a design concept, under the Su-37 designation.

 

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As you can see, it employs a cranked-delta wing design, not unlike the ground-oriented F-16XL.  This allows lower stall speeds than a pure-delta design.  However, the engine appears to be a standard turbofan, like those employed on fighter aircraft, rather than the turbofans employed on the A-10.  Wouldn't this make slow-speed a bit troublesome?

 

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And here is the virtual depiction in US Navy Fighters, pointing to its intended role as an A-10-like CAS platform.

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If this sparks anyone's memories or knowledge of this aircraft, sharing it would be greatly appreciated.

 

On a second note, did there ever exist a Naval version of the F-104 'Starfighter'?

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The above image is the depiction is US Navy Fighters.  Despite saying U.S.A.F. on the wings, in-game, it is operated by the US Navy, under the F-104N designation, complete with CATOBAR gear.

 

Any help on this would be great too.

 

DatBritish.

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In real world that AC was Sukhoi's S-37 project proposal, the one before the later famous S-37 Berkut.

The AC actually had a total of 17 planed hardpoints and its engine was the same as on the Yak-41 stovl main engine. Quite powerful beast.

 

Here are some info on it, but probably you already found these. Also the "secrectprojects" forum has quite a topic on it.

 

S-37 Project
 
Length: 17.65m (Bedretdinov), 17.5m (Butowski)
Wingspan: 12.08m (Bedretdinov), 11.8m (Butowski) (8.64m folded) 
Wing Area: 50 sq m
Height: 5.74m
 
Maximum speed: 1500km/h at low level, Mach 2.0 at height
Maximum altitude: 17000m
Range, 3000kg payload: 800km (low level) 1,500km (high level)
G load: +9/-3g
Supersonic G load: 8g
Acceleration from 600km/h to 1100km/h at 1000m altitude: 14 secs
Acceleration from 1100km/h to 1300km/h at 1000m altitude: 7.2 secs
 
Engine: 1 x R-79M turbofan
Thrust: 18,143kg
 
Weight, Maximum: 24,970kg
Weight, Normal takeoff: 16-18,000kg 
Weight, empty: 12000kg
Internal fuel capacity: 8,300kg
Normal combat payload: 5000kg
Maximum combat payload: 8000kg
 
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In real world that AC was Sukhoi's S-37 project proposal, the one before the later famous S-37 Berkut.

 

The designation S-37, sometimes S-47, was only for internal use in OKB Sukhoi. S stands for "swept wing" while T stands for "delta wing". (Similar to the isdelije numbers of OKB Mikoyan.) It has nothing to do with later service designations. For instance the Su-27 was developed under the index T-10.

If i look to the Flounder, so it is rather a delta wing design, than a swept wing design. So i doubt, that it would have a "S-something" index. It would have had a "T-something" index.

 

For me the Flounder looks a little bit like a modified SAAB-39 Gripen.

 

In real life the Su-37 is one of the latest Su-27 versions which got the NATO Code: Flanker-F

 

 

The F-104N is not a Navy version of the Starfighter, but a NASA version of the F-104G. 3 F-104N were built.

 

If you want a carrierborn NAVY Starfighter. So the modding is simple. Add a tailhook and the line: CarrierBased=TRUE

and it should run.

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Logan show our SU-37 also please!

Sure.

 

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Certainly Gepard, though on cyrilic sites I only found referring to it as "C-37". 

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Yes, dsawan. Few things to fix though. Unfortunately we do not have a dedicated cockpit for it so it will use a stand-in one for the time being.

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Yes, as soon I can get to wrap up the last few bits. I know its been extremely long :blush::blush::blackeye:, but had been busy with life and other projects that slipped up on the priority lane.

 

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On 7/22/2019 at 11:09 PM, logan4 said:

Yes, as soon I can get to wrap up the last few bits. I know its been extremely long :blush::blush::blackeye:, but had been busy with life and other projects that slipped up on the priority lane.

 

know the feeling...ive so much left do do after a break from it all..hard to remember what ive got

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