MAKO69 186 Posted June 10, 2014 City of Mosul falls to breakaway al Qaeda group, more extreme and ruthless than regular al Qaeda. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/iraq-city-of-mosul-falls-into-hands-of-isis-jihadists-after-police-army-abandon-posts/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hrc 156 Posted June 11, 2014 These charming fellows, the Islamic state of Iraq and Levant are fighting Syrian gvmnt. an Kurdish militias in Syria, with extremely genocidal views against Shias and Kurds... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
macelena 1,070 Posted June 11, 2014 Wait, it can´t be possible, it wasn't the yanks doing all the genociding thing in Iraq? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUSTYMORLEY 162 Posted June 12, 2014 What was the point in Invading Iraq just to eventually leave and allow yet another group of fanatics re-assert themselves! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Julhelm 266 Posted June 12, 2014 Al Quaida has never been so strong. They were nothing but a bunch of ragtags hiding in Afghanistan back in 2001. Now they control entire countries. Go War on Terror! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+CrazyhorseB34 937 Posted June 12, 2014 Thank Dick Cheney. Saddam would never have let this happen. The enemy of the "Arab Nationalist" is the "Islamic Fundamentalist." Mid-East political history 101. This is what you get for voting for idiots. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PFunk 198 Posted June 12, 2014 I feel like I should be apologizing to a veteran this morning. I understand the US Embassy is prepping for evacuation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+pcpilot 181 Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) Geeeeze, what a mess. Never did understand invading Iraq. What with Iran saber rattling, the Arab spring across North Africa, Syria fighting a civil war, and even Turkey having difficulties, that whole region is now so unstable its a powderkeg waiting to blow. Now the militants are talking about linking up with Syrian militants and making some sort of Pan Arab Islamist state. Edited June 12, 2014 by pcpilot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lexx_Luthor 57 Posted June 12, 2014 crazyhorse, lol. Mumar Gaddafi same, so he had to go too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
macelena 1,070 Posted June 12, 2014 Rest easy, it´s under control, they took the bait http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/06/isis-iraq-humvees-captured/ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigBuster 2,884 Posted June 12, 2014 Just another day in sunny Iraq then Was very clever of them to wait until the US had pulled out before making their move - genius Really sad for all the civies - they just want to get some stability! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murphy'S 15 Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) Thank Dick Cheney. Saddam would never have let this happen. The enemy of the "Arab Nationalist" is the "Islamic Fundamentalist." Mid-East political history 101. This is what you get for voting for idiots.+100000 you are totally right. Removing guys like Saddam or kaddafi was a total misunderstanding of thé situation. Edited June 12, 2014 by Murphy'S 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capitaine Vengeur 263 Posted June 12, 2014 At the time of Saddam, the Boss was the bastard whose picture was in every place. You could not miss him. That was called dictatorship. Today in Iraq, the Boss is the bastard that is standing before you with a Kalash at the present moment. He cannot miss you. That is called anarchy. Iraq is a hopeless cause. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
macelena 1,070 Posted June 12, 2014 Power Point Ranger can hit the nail in the head more often than any commentator, analyst or self-proclaimed expert out there, sadly 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sky High 166 Posted June 12, 2014 Apparently Obama has armed both sides of the Iraqi conflict. While it shows him up as a less than ingenious player of the 'game', it undeniably shows the continued astute business sense of the US military-industrial complex. On a more pessimistic note, the pieces on the board are becoming somewhat more Armageddonesquely-aligned with a very defined millenarian Sunni entity facing a Shia establishment shadowed by Tehran, while the Ukraine, Russia, Turkey and Israel sit expectantly on the edges of chaos. All we need now is for the Afghans and nuclear-armed Pakistan to get sucked in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+CrazyhorseB34 937 Posted June 12, 2014 We did not die for this shit. My friends died for the greed of the neo-conservative chicken hawks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
33LIMA 972 Posted June 12, 2014 'But war's a game which, were their subjects wise, Kings would not play at' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MAKO69 186 Posted June 12, 2014 We started this sh!t and it was half @ssed in finishing it. We have about 1000 defensive troops at the US Embassy complex w/support. I hate to send more troops but, we never should have left. This kind of action takes a generation or two to make sure it sticks. Thinking more to come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lexx_Luthor 57 Posted June 13, 2014 * Media over reaction Alert * ...and Iran reaction alert. Just being contrarian to the always lying mainstream media (US and Iran both). Maybe its not so bad folks. The shias asked for this by dumping on the sunnis very badly. By the SAME REASON, if AQ goes nuts, the sunnis will eliminate AQ, as they have before. Granted *that* assumes AQ does not become too entrenched. Apparently, AQ is being led by a large number of old Saddam's officers and generals, which helps explain their rapid success -- and is a good reason we should havev kept them employed in the new regime instead of eliminating them. I don't think these guys are very AQ~esque, and they are very smart and well trained. Look for Iraq to split into Sunni, Kurd, and Shia partial states. If AQ goes nuts, it should be self-defeating, as the Sunnis won't tolerate that, and, the body count for AQ will skyrocket if they push far into Shia and Kurd areas. Also, this assumes we don't get "involved" on one side against the other and mess things up again. Iran and Saud as well, for that matter. Like men around llamas, its hard to keep hands off. The best poast ever about this I saw on another forum....Hope some AQ leader brags that "The road to Mecca runs through Bagdad." Then watch the sauds, our ally, and creator of AQ, panick big time lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MAKO69 186 Posted June 13, 2014 * Media over reaction Alert * ...and Iran reaction alert. Just being contrarian to the always lying mainstream media (US and Iran both). Maybe its not so bad folks. The shias asked for this by dumping on the sunnis very badly. By the SAME REASON, if AQ goes nuts, the sunnis will eliminate AQ, as they have before. Granted *that* assumes AQ does not become too entrenched. Apparently, AQ is being led by a large number of old Saddam's officers and generals, which helps explain their rapid success -- and is a good reason we should havev kept them employed in the new regime instead of eliminating them. I don't think these guys are very AQ~esque, and they are very smart and well trained. Look for Iraq to split into Sunni, Kurd, and Shia partial states. If AQ goes nuts, it should be self-defeating, as the Sunnis won't tolerate that, and, the body count for AQ will skyrocket if they push far into Shia and Kurd areas. Also, this assumes we don't get "involved" on one side against the other and mess things up again. Iran and Saud as well, for that matter. Like men around llamas, its hard to keep hands off. The best poast ever about this I saw on another forum....Hope some AQ leader brags that "The road to Mecca runs through Bagdad." Then watch the sauds, our ally, and creator of AQ, panick big time lol. I don't think its an over reaction alert, this sh!t happened, been happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PFunk 198 Posted June 13, 2014 I will never support US troops in a foreign war again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dave 2,322 Posted June 13, 2014 I will never support US troops in a foreign war again. I will always support the troops, just not the assholes who put them there. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+CrazyhorseB34 937 Posted June 13, 2014 This looks like a job for the B-1B. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
macelena 1,070 Posted June 13, 2014 My mom said the exact same thing about the B-1Bs. I think Dad and I shouldn´t have made her watch that Discovery Channel documentary. I'm just concerned that without proper intel or on the ground FACs it could derive in a higher risk of civilians being killed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites