MigBuster

Wow - has there been an army with a worse combat record!

Happy Birthday

If you see here which is the Have Drill/Ferry pres: http://area51specialprojects.com/video/havedrill_tactical.swf click to go through the presentation - its compared at 350KIAS and 450 KIAS (me not checking!). If you have anything on the 250KIAS then Id be pleased to see it - the MiG-17s wings are still swept back so having a serious doubt is not good enough. The MiG-17 did have a hydraulic system - but early versions did not have powered Ailerons from what I remember - hence why it had to fly in a straight line over a certain speed. But GRViper has provided information from manuals from Soviet MiG-17Fs having all powered flight controls from a point in time. Unfortunately the range and weapons load of the F-104 made the F-4 (with better avionics and extra set of eyes) far more suitable for their needs - as pretty much proved over SEA itself - and probably a major factor in the USAF ditching the F-104 from that conflict and from service rather quickly.

hmmm interesting will give that a try. Yes good point on the Lightning missiles - they are pretty good - no doubt TK feels people are happier when the missile hits things.

Although lightweight the F-5 and F-104 are not really comparible fighters - which is why I believe it was mentioned by Lexx above. The F-104 like the F-4 relies on energy only and its best manoeuvrability comes at high speed - (say 450+kts) for example The F-5A had comparible horizontal turn performance to the MiG-17 in the low speed (say under 400kts) - but I dont believe it was really an energy fighter - especially if compared to the F-104 (theres a great article by Andy Bush on F-104Gs Vs F-5Es from when he was at Top Gun) The F-5A had no radar- the F-5E was larger, faster, had a radar and was a true A-A fighter - pretty sure neither could get near the F-104/F-4/F-15/F-16 regarding energy and speed performance (thats why they tried to do an F-5G/F-20).

Assume you got the LODs, bmps, inis etc - Where are you trying to put them - in an older SF2 patch level game?

Not personally this any use? http://www.joebaugher.com/usattack/newa7.html

The F-14B/D was useful (would never say it was the best) regarding A-A because it could use speed AND could dogfight when it was not fully loaded. It needed to do this in its time because there was zero guarantee of it picking up enemy jets on radar and actually hitting them with any of its missiles - and needed all of its bases covered. Having read a lot on John Boyd the past year I would have to say the above term is truly ignorant - so heres a nice thread with a real pilots thoughts on that: from http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-8478-start-0.html

Fully merged? Is that WOV + WOE Or do you actually have SF2E etc - this is the SF2 forum

Way off - Boyd advocated the use of both energy AND manoeuvrability - not just being agile - All of these platforms can do this - F-22/F-15/F-16/F-18/F-14B&D/MiG-29/Su-27 And all of those platforms would take the piss out of the underpowered compressor stalling nightmare that was the F-14A and totally inept MiG-25P/PD - both of which were Interceptors they are NOT even Fighters in my book.

For WOV - which only goes to 2008 does it not - you want the old editor dated 20-2-2008. Works fine for me in Win 7 - and I dont need to set comp mode either. btw to get weapons back in the game you can delete weapondata.dat - it will use the stock set again.

It wouldn't have just been the skies different - we would have been like cuba - a backwards island cut off from countries around us. Still look on the bright side - we might have joined NATO when Poland did - and thus got us some nice new F-16C Block 52s - result

You dont need to reinstall anything - as a test make a copy of the games .exe file, then rename that copy to something like "test1.exe" for example. Double click on test1.exe to run the game. Exit the game and go to your mod folders - you will see a new folder called "test1" - this is your new install to add mods into.

Which campaign did you download? - can you start you the campaign? - do they need extra objects you dont have?

Fantastic - thanks so much Stary

Well no figures to prove it myself - you could say the majority of TWs customers only ever play the original game - (over 50% judging by the way TK does things) From people posting its the era the games are set in (ie this game has F-105s!), the historical nature (Vietnam/Israel ) and the fact the games don't need to be studied for years to start playing them.

Where are they installed (path?) Are you running any of them with admin rights or in compatibility mode?

Crikey - no idea - not that ive ever stuck to one. Maybe I will go to the gym less - that sounds the sort of res I can live with!

Happy new year to everybody

ooo congrats! :good:

I wish JT the best - its an ambitious project and will no doubt have teething problems of its own to overcome, let alone features missing that others would like in it. Be interesting to see how it is released and if the long term support is there.

Yes probably quicker to remove it from the radio commands box altogether. TK says the F-14 game has been in development for 2 years - so I really hope there are a few surprise changes in it.

Top class as always - will this be for the stock SF2V terrain?

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Hi there. CAS in random single missions will only be a battle between 2 groups of tanks - that is any vehicle defined as a tank. The Game randomly takes any TANK in ground objects and uses it. So for example if you want CAS between 2 sets of infantry instead you would put them into the groundobjects folder defined as being of the type TANK. This of course means you could end up with tanks Vs infantry for example. To control what actually turns up requires a scripted single mission in WOV created by yourself - for example you could download a mission from here similar to what you need and alter it using Notepad.