What ALL-NEW terrain would you like to see?

[Stratos]

 

[Sherpa]

I voted for Angola/Namibia.

 

The "Border War" was an interesting air conflict which has never been covered. It was fought from the mid 70s to the late 80s and features some interesting planes: SAAF Mirage III/F.1 vs Angolan Mig 21/23 (with Cuban/east german pilots). At one point in the mid-late 80s, Angola had some of the most sophisticated air defences in the world, courtesy of the USSR.

 

The theater map would not need to be that huge, basically all the fighting took place in the northern half of Namibia and the southern half of Angola, an area which is the same size as the ME map in WOI/SF2I. Almost all SAAF strike/fighter flights took off from bases close to the Namibia-Angola border. The farthest was AFB Windhoek, about in the middle of Namibia.

 

[EricJ]

Honestly a more complete Afghanistan map, that includes the eastern part of the country.

[+ravenclaw_007]

for some obvious reasons i go for a Angola/Namibia or South African terrain

[Lexx_Luthor]

Wrench::

the major problem with doing ANY terrain in North America, is there are no enemies.

Air Defence Command, and US Army -- Nike ..?

 

If anything we could re~create the USArmy+ADC vs SAC+RAF bomber practice runs. I got Al Price's US EW vol.2, and lots of B-47s were "destroyed" but they were the e-decoys. Lots got through.

 

For myself:: , ADC/Nike vs Soviet DA is ... NO CONTEST. Sorry.

 

The more matched contest is SAC vs PVO .... *but* the scenario has to be set up as war of attrition so its not the "one swift strike and be home by Christmas 1914" kind of thing.

[Hellfish6]

Wrench::

Air Defence Command, and US Army -- Nike ..?

 

If anything we could re~create the USArmy+ADC vs SAC+RAF bomber practice runs. I got Al Price's US EW vol.2, and lots of B-47s were "destroyed" but they were the e-decoys. Lots got through.

 

 

 

Boring. Next?

[Lexx_Luthor]

Next is Celebes centered SW Pacific campaign -- late 1950s to early 1960s, with Soviets providing air and naval power, and China providing man power. Bascially, a re~try of Japan's run through the area in late 1941 - early 1942.

 

SW Pacific has opportunity for USN and RN, as well as air forces, and Soviet VMF (bears and stuff) along with VVS. Would Yak-25 make a long range escort fighter? Other than that, the Soviets lack the equivalent of the Zero and its ocean dominating range.

 

An early map I experimented with when I first got into THE SF. The area has lots of deep jungle, high mountains, active volcanoes (need effects) with not so much detail objects or big cities on the ground.

 

 

 

I moved onto SAC vs PVO, but SW Pacific is an idea for ya'll more normal, less weird types.

[Hellfish6]

Celebes would be kinda cool, especially with the commie Indonesians at the time. They had Badgers and MiG-21s.

[Lexx_Luthor]

Well you could fake some Yak-25s there, since its a fake war. Have them arrive with the Soviets. You need something with range here. Maybe Yak-28 fighters and bombers and -27 recon in the later campaign years. I've read the -28 was a fair match for Phantom in Teh Dogfight.

[steelflanker]

Angola/Namibia!!! :yes:

 

[Lexx_Luthor]

Next is a Polar campaign.

 

click here for map basis idea, scroll down ~> http://combatace.com/topic/51214-merry-christmas-from-north-pole/

 

Like I always do, I suggest late 1950s to early 1960s since that covers the niftiest of nifty airplanes on both sides of the sound barrier. Assume lots of air refueling in the background for NATO fighters. This may be possible to set up in DATA.ini with mission range and possibly defining campaign altitudes where the air refuel hack can work for AI flights. I don't know this would really work over the stock dynamic campaign generator. But it may be possible to get close enough.

 

There is room enough over the Pole to borrow some of the long range strategic planesets. Even Canada has a role to play, right on the front line. Will need Aurora effects, but that requires some very long distance grafix definitions in Flightengine, and figuring out how to make it work with the stock campaign engine.

 

I'm doing SAC vs PVO map, but I am willing to help out a Polar Bear Team or a Celebes Campaign Collective....or anyone who needs an undistorted extreme north or south lattitude map.

[RX180]

I like to see an map from Israel to Iran with some nuclear power plants, uranium enrichment plants, air refueling routes and medium range balistic missiles with nuclear warheads that can strike both sides.

[+Soulfreak]

Yugoslavia!!!

Would be nice to fly in a Tornado ECR against Serbia....

[tiopilotos]

My vote goes for South Africa!

 

It would be great to see the SAAF Mirages, Buccaneers and Cheetahs against Angolan Mig-21 and Mig-23.

[Wrench]

Actually, the one true map we've been missing for a long time IS the Balkans. What with all the 'issues' there over the last 50 years ... it's one that's needed

[+Baltika]

Didn't c5 show a Med/Balkans terrain wip a while back?

[Guest rscsjsuso5]

simhq is having this poll on tw terrain choice just to let you guys know about it.

Edited February 2, 2012 by rscsjsuso5

[garyscott]

Balkan area gets my vote. Upper boundaries encompassing Swiss, Hungarian and Romanian airspace, as far west as Sardinia, Eastwards to the Black Sea coast of Bulgaria, and south to the Albanian / Grecian border. Should be a large enough area to expand various scenarios. Varied terrain, good for valley-running to target. God knows how difficult it would be to design??

[Wrench]

God knows how difficult it would

 

Exceedingly. Trust me!

[End1e551]

I would love to see the Gulf area done, and get a nice Gulf War campaign letting us fly the A-10, F-15 and F-16.

[+Dave]

I would love to see the Gulf area done, and get a nice Gulf War campaign letting us fly the A-10, F-15 and F-16.

 

We are testing the SF2 version of that now. So please stand by...

 

2 weeks

[FeDee]

Cenepa, Cenepa! A Mirage war!

 

Kfir and F-1 vs M2000 and M5

[Wrench]

Re: Gulf War

 

we tallking the actual Gulf itself, or more eastenly as in the Bandar Abbas/Hormuz region??

 

Honetly, I feel like the US Govt ... never gonna get out of the frakking Middle East!!

Edited February 3, 2012 by Wrench

[End1e551]

We are testing the SF2 version of that now. So please stand by...

 

2 weeks

 

Much celebrating and cheering you on from my side of the screen!

 

[+CrazyhorseB34]

Bosnia/Kosovo/Serbia map is an absolute must. Too many possibilities for missions and a real good stand alone campaign mod. The Bush War map would be a logical second choice in my opinion. Good MiG-23 vs. F1 action there plus lots of ground pounding. I personnally use that Iberia map as a stand in for Bosnia and Madagasgar for my Bush war fun. Would be good to have proper map.