Slartibartfast 153 Posted June 22, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18554246 Summary a Turkish F-4 has come down on the border with Syria... some are saying that it was brought down by Syrian Anti-Aircraft weapons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+JonathanRL 974 Posted June 22, 2012 Syrian Regime warning Turkey to interfere? Or horrible accident. This may get out of hand, fast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gr.Viper 131 Posted June 22, 2012 F-4 down, Fishbed defection... It's like the golden days of 70's jet combat down there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lazarus1177 164 Posted June 22, 2012 Hope the pilots survived.If Syrian forces did bring down the plane,then it's a real foolish decision from their side as they may have made a new powerful enemy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+JonathanRL 974 Posted June 22, 2012 Pilots are alive and rescued according to Swedish Media, also Syrians confirms take-down and apologized to Turkish PM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+daddyairplanes 10,234 Posted June 22, 2012 they ought not to have done that. as anyone who's dealt with em before can testify mess with one Turk (including Phantom) you'll find yourself facing many Turks real quick (including Phantoms, Tigers, Vipers) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast 153 Posted June 22, 2012 they ought not to have done that. as anyone who's dealt with em before can testify mess with one Turk (including Phantom) you'll find yourself facing many Turks real quick (including Phantoms, Tigers, Vipers) And a whole mess more if they invoke Article V of the NATO Charter... all 28 Nations turn up for a fight... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastCargo 412 Posted June 22, 2012 I'd imagine Syrian forces are amped up to 11. It wouldn't surprise me if someone has orders to shoot on their own forces if there are any more defections... If the crew had died, I think things could have gotten a lot worse real fast. FC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigBuster 2,884 Posted June 22, 2012 F-4 down, Fishbed defection... It's like the golden days of 70's jet combat down there. Wow yeah - saw the defection to Jordan yesterday! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Brain32 265 Posted June 22, 2012 Turkey is getting rather cocky lately anyway...they shouldn't be crossing Syrian borders carelessly... Wow yeah - saw the defection to Jordan yesterday! Still no aircraft pictures or details...not saying anything...just saying... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 451 Posted June 22, 2012 not saying anything...just saying... That's a bit contradictory, isn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastCargo 412 Posted June 22, 2012 Still no aircraft pictures or details...not saying anything...just saying... Uh, I've seen articles with the aircraft in question (a fat spined MiG-21), and the pilot's name, rank, and that he is a father of five, who's hometown is under control of the rebels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Brain32 265 Posted June 22, 2012 Well the best I've seen was a picture of Egyptian MiG-21 All other illustrations didn't even show the Fishbed but Su-22 and one particularly silly showed MiG-23BN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Brain32 265 Posted June 22, 2012 BTW I'm interested in modern camos for Syrian mig's, saw one blurry desert scheme for the Fulcrum allegedly Syrian but couldn't find the drawing anywhere...sorry for off-topic btw... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lazarus1177 164 Posted June 22, 2012 This isn't the first time for the Arab Spring revolutions that pilots have defected.A few pilots defected from Libya in Mirage F-1s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+guyran 13 Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) This is the photo of the Syrian Mig-21 Ynet news Edited June 22, 2012 by guyran Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+CrazyhorseB34 937 Posted June 22, 2012 OK.....that is not a Syrian MiG-21. It is Egyptian and if I can remember someone used that same photo for a hangar screen downloadable here! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Brain32 265 Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) Yup and it's quite old I remember seeing it ages ago... There are more of that in the same surroundings but from different angle... Edited June 22, 2012 by Brain32 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derk 265 Posted June 22, 2012 Hi, hi, so in other words the Israeli newspapers use Combatace as a source for pictures 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+guyran 13 Posted June 22, 2012 The credit for this photo of Mig-21 belongs to AFP- Agence France-Presse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Brain32 265 Posted June 22, 2012 The credit for this photo of Mig-21 belongs to AFP- Agence France-Presse. Ummm, no it does not unless this guy gave his permission for it: http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=20363&p=439028 Scroll down, they even talk about it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UK_Widowmaker 571 Posted June 22, 2012 The Syrians are saying it was invading their Airspace.....looking forward to the Turkish Response..but seems that Syria are really pushing their luck http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18561219 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fallenphoenix1986 603 Posted June 22, 2012 Still getting mixed reports here as to whether the crew have been picked up, anyone able to confirm? Craig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eraser_tr 29 Posted June 22, 2012 And a whole mess more if they invoke Article V of the NATO Charter... all 28 Nations turn up for a fight... And even messier having read of Russian military units in Syria. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Stary 2,427 Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) ATS sources say pilots didn't have time to bail out..? Edited June 22, 2012 by Stary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
