UK_Widowmaker Posted July 25, 2013 Posted July 25, 2013 Al Queda must be rubbing their fucking hands together. The British and American Troops, who havent been born yet...but will die by these weapons, will be cock-a-hoop as well I bet! Amazing what a brown envelope passed under a Table will achieve for the over-bloated Arms Industry Quote
+MigBuster Posted July 25, 2013 Posted July 25, 2013 Yes but if you call them rebels everyone will think they are the good guys.........dont you see 1 Quote
Gunrunner Posted July 25, 2013 Posted July 25, 2013 (edited) Trouble is, "the people" do not want inaction, they want their government to do something about these crisis, at the same time "the people" doesn't want to see its sons and daughters slain in a far away war for benefits to themselves unclear and often perceived as neo-colonialists and even if they don't object (because they have no son or daughter), they do object to the cost of that war. Therefore there is only one solution satisfying the will of "the people" for action at little cost, and that giving/selling weapons to the side currently painted/perceived as the good guys, which in turn helps the profits of weapon dealers/makers... politicians don't give a fuck about the long term consequences, they won't be in office anymore when it will blow up in our collective faces, and "the people" has a very short memory and is adept at shifting blame and being unaccountable for what it forces/allows politicians to do. Abolish the People I say ! Edited July 25, 2013 by Gunrunner 1 Quote
macelena Posted July 25, 2013 Posted July 25, 2013 Of course, they will run background checks on them...will they? 1 Quote
+Typhoid Posted July 25, 2013 Posted July 25, 2013 At this point, I think we should arm both sides. With nukes............... 1 Quote
+JediMaster Posted July 25, 2013 Posted July 25, 2013 That's the beauty of chemical weapons. Kills only the people, the land will still be useful after a few days...not a few million years. Quote
Nesher Posted July 25, 2013 Posted July 25, 2013 they should let them kill each other and get it over with they did nothing for more than 2 years, why they think they need to do something now? idiots.. Quote
+Gepard Posted July 26, 2013 Posted July 26, 2013 The old colonial powers France and UK want to play "great powers" again. So they "liberated" Libya and gave the land from Ghadaffi to Islamists. Ooops. Shit happens. Now they want to "liberate" Syria and want to give the land from Assad to Islamists. Ooops. Shit happens. Finaly the result will be that Israel is surrounded by Ooops shit happens states. Its truly a smart policy. But let us sing the song of freedom and democracy and Ooops shit happens. 1 Quote
+Dave Posted July 26, 2013 Posted July 26, 2013 I agree with Typhoid...arm the hell out of them, then let them kill themselves off. No boots on the ground from anyone. Quote
PFunk Posted July 26, 2013 Posted July 26, 2013 I am steadfastly against getting involved militarily anywhere. They don't deserve our kids dying for them. 2 Quote
Nathan Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 isn't the muslim brotherhood a part of al Qaeda . sure I read that some where . If so why would we want to give them arms ? as uk widowmaker said it will only end up being aimed right back at us !! Quote
+CrazyhorseB34 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 Nathan your assumption is incorrect. The MB have been around for about 60 or 70 years. AQ is just a brand name. They represent the more religiously minded people of Egypt. Now that does not mean that individual members do not advocate for the cause of AQ but as an official organization the MB is not dissimilar to the "Tea Party" in the USA. Quote
+Dave Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 CB34 is right, the MB has nothing to do with Al Q. But they do have radical leanings. Quote
Slartibartfast Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 Arm them and then build a 20ft wall round the damn place and let them get on with it and then go back in 5 years and see who is left... Quote
+CrazyhorseB34 Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 But Al Zawahiri the current AQ chief ( at least on paper) is an Egyptian and was in the MB. He joined at the age of 14.He was also in involved in the Sadat assassination. But..... those facts do not really matter because he fell in with AQ after his prison time following the Sadat affair, and volunteered his time as a physician with the Red Crescent in Pakistan during the Soviet Afghan war. That is where he met OBL......... So his direct involvement with the MB now is not so relevant. Quote
+Typhoid Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 CB34 is right, the MB has nothing to do with Al Q. But they do have radical leanings. yes and no. the original leadership of Al Q originated from within the MB or evolved from their radical teachings. They aren't exactly the same, but they do have the same roots and essentially the same ideological outlook. They merely differ in near term tactics. The share the same strategic goals. Quote
+JediMaster Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 Just like the different branches of the IRA. Quote
+Typhoid Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Just like the different branches of the IRA. yea, pretty much. Quote
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