+daddyairplanes 9,733 Posted April 10, 2015 Thats a ini issue not a lod issue. What af does this? Usaf usually sets up three per flight, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eole 1,032 Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) Mue is there a way to extend the Node coordinates copy function like this ? 'I thing you got the pointer to the structure with the node name and coordinates when the 3D model windows have the focus With the x,y,z coordinates & the the associated nod name you willl help all the skinners around here for the decals placing Thank you in advance Edited April 12, 2015 by Eole2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Coupi 4,325 Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) Hello guys, hello Mue! I think I've missed something... How to rotate (3/4 face for example and Eole screenshot cockpit view type) the views in the x, y and z axes? Thank you for advance, @ Mue, your Tools (with TAE) are very powerful! Best regards Edited April 12, 2015 by Coupi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+gerwin 451 Posted April 12, 2015 LOD viewer v0.5 woth older LOD format support is excellent, now it works great with my custom SF1 and SF2 install! Really enjoyed browsing through the 3D objects like this. Thanks a lot! There were only some ships shown without textures, where the Lod model refers to .JPGs but the CAT archive holds .BMPs instead. (When textures are outside of CAT archives the Lod viewer does fall back to .BMPs) Would Z-Y (side of object) be a better default view then Z-X (back)? Are you considering stepping through to inspect the distance lods? The often ignored but important part of models. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eole 1,032 Posted April 12, 2015 Hello guys, hello Mue! I think I've missed something... How to rotate (3/4 face for example and Eole screenshot cockpit view type) the views in the x, y and z axes? Thank you for advance, @ Mue, your Tools (with TAE) are very powerful! Best regards Pres ALT key and move your mouse SHIFT Key for other axe 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Coupi 4,325 Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) Super! Ok... Many thanks Eole!!! Edited April 12, 2015 by Coupi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Major Bloodnok 463 Posted April 12, 2015 Does anybody know, what causes this on startup(latest update): No interface visible, although options visible when right click. ATI card, WIN7 64 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+mue 715 Posted April 12, 2015 Does anybody know, what causes this on startup(latest update): No interface visible, although options visible when right click. ATI card, WIN7 64 Change the color depth to 32 bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Major Bloodnok 463 Posted April 12, 2015 Change the color depth to 32 bit. Already done that, but still black. I shall try updating my video card drivers. Thanks for the answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Major Bloodnok 463 Posted April 12, 2015 Already done that, but still black. I shall try updating my video card drivers. Thanks for the answer. Yep, new drivers needed, ok now. Thanks for a great tool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+dtmdragon 2,684 Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) This is an amazing modding tool! Took me all of five minutes to place a set decals on a new skin from scratch. No loading the game to check the placement then having to quit and re-adjust the coordinates a thousand times till thier all in the right place. Huge thank you!!! Edited April 13, 2015 by dtmdragon 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HolyKnightAD 4 Posted April 16, 2015 YOOOOOOO!! Such an amazing tool. You have no idea how desperate I was in finding a viewer for many years. I lost the motivation to do skin modding because I had to load the game for viewing purposes which took me so much time. With this tool, I may be able to finish some of my unfinished skin projects and also make new ones faster. Thanks mue. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,728 Posted April 17, 2015 a dumb question just occurred to me... does this tool see objectdata002 cat? and how do we open it?? that's the locked cat, where all the lods are kept. I haven't seen anyone asking about that, or if they've used it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+mue 715 Posted April 17, 2015 a dumb question just occurred to me... does this tool see objectdata002 cat? and how do we open it?? that's the locked cat, where all the lods are kept. I haven't seen anyone asking about that, or if they've used it. The program reads all (unlocked and locked) *.cat files from your <installdir>/objects/ and <installdir>/terrains/ folder and all *.dlc files from your <installdir>/DLC/ folder. Dlc files are just cat files with the *.dlc extension. You open the lods by opening the respecitive *.ini files from your mod folder. Not all lods are in objectdata002.cat. DLC lods are in the *.dlc files. Game specific (eg. Europe, Israel, NA, Expansion Packs,...) lods are in the respective cat files. Terrain object lods are in the terrain.cat files. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,728 Posted April 17, 2015 unfortunately, that's not working for me used the A-1H.ini, and this is what I see... (even changed the setting pointer to the C:\Program Files (x86)\ThirdWire\Strike Fighters 2\Objects (and just for grins and giggles, tried with the desert .ini, and go the message "no reference LOD file found" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+mue 715 Posted April 17, 2015 unfortunately, that's not working for me used the A-1H.ini, and this is what I see... (even changed the setting pointer to the C:\Program Files (x86)\ThirdWire\Strike Fighters 2\Objects (and just for grins and giggles, tried with the desert .ini, and go the message "no reference LOD file found" For me, it works. Have you set the pointer to "C:\Program Files (x86)\ThirdWire\Strike Fighters 2" ? Can you post the exaxt size of ObjectData009.CAT. That's there the A-1H.LOD is. I will check if we have identical cat files. Do have others also problems with loading/displaying stock lods? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KJakker 884 Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) I just tested it on the A-1H.ini in my "C:\Users\User Name\Saved Games\ThirdWire\StrikeFighters2\Objects\Aircraft\A-1H" folder with the setting pointer aimed at "C:\Program Files (x86)\ThirdWire\Strike Fighters 2" and got this. Edited April 17, 2015 by KJakker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,728 Posted April 17, 2015 cat 009 = 119,572, dated 7/13/2013 (latest patch) Got it working, for non DLCs .. I had the pointer setting down one step too far (/Strike Fighters2/Objects) As you can see, was able to open the SCB-125 right away. So, a trick for the DLCs?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+mue 715 Posted April 17, 2015 So, a trick for the DLCs?? No. Just open the *.ini file. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Crusader 2,078 Posted May 5, 2015 mue, any chance for another addition to this tool... ? Could you make it visualize the CollisionPoints .. then its easier to check and edit them :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+RAVEN 414 Posted May 5, 2015 I'd like that also.When you have time and if it can be done? It would make easy to check a new model before it's released. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+swambast 682 Posted May 7, 2015 On the longer term, I would like to be able to modify nodes : Though exporting an dmodfiying meshes can be rated as piracy, I think that being able to either delete a node or replace the original mesh by another one, or add one is ok For what it's worth, I strongly disagree - in my opinion it should remain a "Viewer" just as Mue said it would. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Centurion-1 1,228 Posted May 7, 2015 I would second that.. for now. When and if SF2 "officially" becomes abandonware I think we could rethink that policy, especially regarding stock aircraft. Some of the AI-onlies could use a fair bit of mesh smoothing, as well as cockpit tweaks etc. Could make a really great "Community Update Pack". 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,728 Posted May 7, 2015 one the lod has been exported, isn't it "locked", and the meshes no longer editable? That's always the impression everyone has had. using ini edits to 'move' or 'remove' (hide) meshes is all we can do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastCargo 412 Posted May 8, 2015 On the longer term, I would like to be able to modify nodes : Though exporting an dmodfiying meshes can be rated as piracy, I think that being able to either delete a node or replace the original mesh by another one, or add one is ok Aftyer all, this is what is done with the "fake pilot method". It came to my mind when I realised that a lot of old cockpits are highly facetized according to today's standards, and "rounding" them would be a great imporvement. The difference in the ini/fakepilot method is that the original LOD is not altered and is not redistributed in any way. Your proposal is exactly that. No. What mue has done here is fantastic as it is. If he wants to do more development that's great, but there have to be limits. FC 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites