SF2: North Atlantic

[+Piecemeal 450]

Seems like these two have their decks populated.

 

 

- I think aircraft on deck are added via an INI file for the ships.The following line determines where aircraft is placed on deck.

MSN File:

[GroundMission001]

Name=Nimitz Carrier Group

GroundObjectType=CVA-63

 

While the first Ship[01].GroundObjectType=CVA-63 determines the actual carrier model.

 

- The helicopters seem to be part of the ship model.

 

Niiiice!! Hopefully their SAM launchers will be active and will be targetable

Edited March 10, 2012 by Piecemeal

[+PureBlue 71]

how'd you get into the INI?

 

The INI thing is just a guess, been messing around with a saved campaign MSN file.

You can see how the carrier groups are formed. Interestingly when I create a CG from scratch, can't get the ships to hold formation..

 

Also the Mission Editor provides insight to the IcelandNA_targets.ini. That file could be the smallest in any stock terrain to date.

4 Airports to each side on the Island.

10-12 airfields off the map for the Soviets.

1 airfield off the map for NATO (RAF Leuchars)

Just a few target areas with Oil Tanks and that seems to be it.. Oh well, lots of cheap real estate for terraformers to fill I guess

 

The ME seems to have a few bugs of its own.

Flying a custom Strike mission, even if a target area on the island is selected the waypoints stay on the Kiev Carrier group object. (Which is always! on the map, along with the 2 US NAVY groups.)

Edited March 11, 2012 by PureBlue

[+PureBlue 71]

Some of these new airfields are either built into the terrain mesh or have a different way of implementing to the map.

Because the objects on them do not sink into the ground when zoomed out.

 

 

Other airfields that are based on previous stock terrains, still have this sinking issue.

[fallenphoenix1986 603]

On landing is anyone else finding themselves bouncing around the deck until they bounce over the side?

Havm't flown a TW game for a couple of years and it was only the gen one games then, don't remember having issues like this with any carrier/aircraft combinations back then.

 

Craig

[Lexx_Luthor 57]

Pureblue::

Some of these new airfields are either built into the terrain mesh or have a different way of implementing to the map.

Because the objects on them do not sink into the ground when zoomed out.

 

That strip is fascinating. I "solved" the problem in SF-1, for me, by eliminating airfield LODs entirely, and just paint them on a terrain tile, making special airfield tiles like you would a city tile or something. I did this mainly because I ran settings that caused airfield lod flickering in my game, and I needed super primitive simple airstrips and its easier to get them to blend into the terrain when seen from any altitutde, just by painting them.

[+SidDogg 130]

...Alright, folks.

 

You ever play until later in the SF2NA Campaign, and all of a sudden....

 

...the enemy battle group is IN THE MIDST of you friendly battle group??!!

 

And you CANNOT take off from the catapult...without eventually getting shot down be SAMs.

 

I'm just sayin. Maybe it's just me, maybe I just have a bad install.

 

Otherwise, IT IS DEFINITELY A BUG!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angry2:

 

Okay. Now I feel better

 

 

 

 

 

SidDogg

[Gr.Viper 131]

F-4 campaign is full of surprises. Like flying to hit a runway with one wingman, no escort, no help from Red Crown and 8 Floggers to kick your ass in overcast weather. A perfect mountain dodging trial. Wingie and 4 Floggers crashed, I hit the ground once for no damage, then again almost at home plate (two MiGs walked me home), lost a wingtip, balanced for a bit and ejected over a base.

[Icarus999 70]

Some of these new airfields are either built into the terrain mesh or have a different way of implementing to the map.

Because the objects on them do not sink into the ground when zoomed out.

 

 

Other airfields that are based on previous stock terrains, still have this sinking issue.

 

What the heck is going on with the positioning of that airfield? How it juts out into the sea like that.... weird.

[+CrazyhorseB34 937]

What is up this "CVN-78" you get when you fly campaign? Definate bug since the intro says USS Nimitz and we all know it is 68! Also, I am not getting this AIM-54 thing. If anybody has any good down and dirty techniques to use to get this thing to work right I am all ears. So far most all of them go ballistic and. 400nm in TWS mode come on gimme a break.

 

 

[Gr.Viper 131]

What the heck is going on with the positioning of that airfield? How it juts out into the sea like that.... weird.

Look up Akureyi Airport.

[Gr.Viper 131]

400nm in TWS mode come on gimme a break.

This is not a radar screen, it's a tactical display showing contacts gathered by all the flights and the Hawkeye. At least it says so in the manual :)

 

Select Phoenix, pick a close bunch of enemy targets, mark them and approach. Range to target vs. missile range is indicated on top of the screen. "Hot trigger" LED will light up and the target mark will start flashing on the display. Launch the missiles and hope that intense jamming put up by Bears and modified Badgers won't make most of your salvo miss. The odds aren't very good, but Sparrows are pure junk against those bombers.

[Icarus999 70]

...Alright, folks.

 

You ever play until later in the SF2NA Campaign, and all of a sudden....

 

...the enemy battle group is IN THE MIDST of you friendly battle group??!!

 

And you CANNOT take off from the catapult...without eventually getting shot down be SAMs.

 

I'm just sayin. Maybe it's just me, maybe I just have a bad install.

 

Otherwise, IT IS DEFINITELY A BUG!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angry2:

 

Okay. Now I feel better

 

 

 

 

SidDogg

 

Carrier battle groups do not merge and take each other on at gun range LOL. It would be pretty damn cool to watch an Iowa class battleship lead a battle group in an epic naval battle if the ships 16"guns and surface to surface weapons capabilities functioned correctly in the new game engine.

Edited March 11, 2012 by Icarus999

[Wrench 9,846]

Not since the Battle of Samar....

[+hi ho silver 179]

I did a new vanilla install of sf2e+sf2x2+sf2na and it still sucks big time keys all messed up Iceland is a no go area tares in tiles land and sea some missing tiles near coast . no map so i cant even tell you where this missing tiles are...Frame rates down and why is the Iceland data 3x bigger than germany theres sod all there ? sorry i hate it ...

[Leidgenosse 17]

Well, apart from the obvious bugs, I've found another small bug in the campaigns. I have the possibility to create a northern sabre campaign flying the A-6E with VA-35 only...But at deck my plane goes Boom then...

 

 

All I made was putting an A-7 cockpit in to make the stock Intruder flyable...

 

 

 

I'm enjoying the game so far and I do thrust in TK putting up patches asap, so no problem about zhe bugzz here

[+Stary 2,427]

On landing is anyone else finding themselves bouncing around the deck until they bounce over the side?

Craig

here, put some screens of it in screenshot thread, happens on too steep landing for me

[+JonathanRL 974]

Oh, flying a F-105D (66) in the Campaign with the help of the customizer is FUN.

Only ECM, few if any countermeasures and speed at your disposal. You have to navigate the canyons of Iceland to survive. Lovely!

[+CrazyhorseB34 937]

OK I got it now guys! Got the AIM-54s workin right. Thanks for the tips. Got to watch "HOT TRIGGER" light.!

 

 

[+Stary 2,427]

to my own suprise using MMT on Phoenix is both fun/easy yet semi-realistic

[MigBuster 2,884]

 

 

 

Nice review

[deiwi 0]

You ever play until later in the SF2NA Campaign, and all of a sudden....

...the enemy battle group is IN THE MIDST of you friendly battle group??!!

And you CANNOT take off from the catapult...without eventually getting shot down be SAMs.

 

Same place, same mission and yet I was able to escape those SAMs.

Real problem is how to land the plane after the mission. One does

not simply choose vector for landing This bug needs to be

fixed ASAP.

[tflash 3]

Wow, "upgrading" from the Phantom to the Tomcat in SFP2 really brings something to the table. The cat is excellent to dogfight the Migs, and the better avionics also make that I have much more success with the Sparrow missiles.

[Fubar512 1,350]

This bug needs to be

fixed ASAP.

 

Issue fixed, installed Iowa class

[+Stary 2,427]

major bug with Isafjordur Airport (forgive me lack of specific fonts) -every wingman crasches into basalt after take off -I know it might be not that big issue as I think in campaign no one starts from there, but just happened to me in single mission:

 

[+SidDogg 130]

OKAY!

 

For those who believe I am joking...

 

See for yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SidDogg