+Julhelm Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 Because it was based on the A-9. Not true - In fact neither Greg Goebel nor Tony Buttler confirm that assumption, so it'd be interesting to see if anyone can come up with better claims as to why the SU-25 is a copy of the A-9 other than the somewhat similar layout (which totally ignores how the original T-8 design and mockup showed a much smaller machine). Quote
+Dave Posted November 21, 2008 Author Posted November 21, 2008 Not true - In fact neither Greg Goebel nor Tony Buttler confirm that assumption, so it'd be interesting to see if anyone can come up with better claims as to why the SU-25 is a copy of the A-9 other than the somewhat similar layout (which totally ignores how the original T-8 design and mockup showed a much smaller machine). You have your sources, I have mine. Quote
Spinners Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 The Gloster Glory prototype soars above the Gloucestershire countryside. This is Pasko & Column5's lovely little La-15 'Fantail' masquerading as the Gloster Glory - Britains first swept-wing jet fighter. BTW The 'Fantail' flies really nice! Quote
fallenphoenix1986 Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 (edited) re. the Su-25 / ya-9 and Orbiter/Burran... the same engineering problem is likely to result in a similar soloution, the laws of physics in the USA and USSR were exactly the same so its hardly surprising that there are similarities. Edited November 21, 2008 by fallenphoenix1986 Quote
+Syrinx Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Whilst that is true, you would still expect some disparity in design. The Shuttle\Buran is a blatant straight steal. As are the others mentioned. I'd expect that the individual designers would give whatever they created their own look. A Mig is unmistakeably a Mig whatever the variant, yet no US design looks like one. The US and Soviet space programmes of the 1960's are a typical example. Both powers evolved their own designs although the physics was exactly the same for both. Anyhooooooo...back to the screenshots. Quote
Nightshade/PR Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 In keeping with the month's theme......"Smoke Rings" Quote
kct Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) A Panavia Tornado GR.1 from the 9 Squadron of the Royal Malaysian Air Force taking off into the night, to perform night patrol at the Straits of Malacca. This is basically a rework of Syrinx's amazing grey Tornado skins, since the GR.1s is a case of "close to happening but we changed our minds in the 11th hour" to buy something else (Hawks). It's still not complete, notice the missing finflash and serials (they would be laid out in a manner VERY similar to our Hawks). However, we would probably still get the Hawks as transitional aircraft. Edited November 22, 2008 by kct Quote
Rambler 1-1 Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 "Okay two, find that radar site." "I can't see s**t. If you hear a boom, it's either me or the radar." Quote
+Gocad Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Hinch' latest creation OMG! A Des Moines CA! Quote
+Julhelm Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Yeah we copied the t-160 http://www.mda.mil/mdalink/bcmt/images/ima...15_tu-160_b.jpg You would think so given the similarities at first glance, but you do realise the Tu-160 stems from the Myasischev M-18 design from 1969, right? Seriously, look at all the different configurations that were studied for the B-1 and compare that to how all the various SST designs ended up looking virtually the same (Concorde, Tu-144, L2000, Boeing SST) and it should not be surprising that the same set of stringent requirements would result in very similar design solutions: and the Space Shuttle too. http://www.englishrussia.com/images/buran/shuttle.gif That I won't argue with you about, given how detail-for-detail it is. Quote
kct Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) Actually, I am thinking of something. We're not going to go there in terms of the topic about who copied who (well, you know, "there"). I might be wrong, but at the rate it is going... And there is something called "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" or something. Well, "imitation" is not exactly the correct word, but I hope you get my point. Edited November 22, 2008 by kct Quote
Spinners Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 "So the pupil becomes the master" More early 1950's USAF Aggressor shenanigans as an instructor-flown Gloster Glory falls into the sights of a F-84 Thunderjet. Quote
+EricJ Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Also, we're straying from the topic people. Sure some have posted image, but take it somewhere else as well. I really couldn't pass this image up, ran a CAS mission in DBS, and well... the eeeevil Fire Can radars oh my! Quote
Stick Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Yes still at it-Operation Jericho in full swing-problem is I cant make through two missions without getting shot down! Quote
+Spectre_USA Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Also, we're straying from the topic people. Sure some have posted image, but take it somewhere else as well. I really couldn't pass this image up, ran a CAS mission in DBS, and well... the eeeevil Fire Can radars oh my! The same thing happened to me last night with a modern timeframe, as I bumped up the dates. Need to find something different for armor, I reckon. Ranks of immobile firecans versus MRLS was not worth flying 300 miles for... Quote
+CrimsonRoamer Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 One more blue bandit for VF-96 Quote
Spinners Posted November 23, 2008 Posted November 23, 2008 An F-104G Starfighter of No.14 squadron, Royal New Zealand Air Force gets airborne. Anyone know the mesh name for the rear fuselage? I've tried the usual suspects Quote
Emp_Palpatine Posted November 23, 2008 Posted November 23, 2008 Was not a very good idea to mess with me, Mr MiG. Quote
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