jeanba Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) This can be interesting : http://www.armaholic.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=6304 Most notably : Hi,you can port our freeware titles over to other games, it's perfectly ok as long as you do not try to sell them.Best regards, PhilAlphaSim Ltd The list is here : A-3B Skywarrior.3ds A-3B_AI Skywarrior.3ds A-3B_AI_parked Skywarrior.3ds A-4E Skyhawk.3ds A-4F Skyhawk.3ds A-90 Orlenok.3ds A-90 Orlenok_civ.3ds A4-C Skyhawk.3ds A7-D Corsair II.3ds AC-119G_Shadow.3ds AC-130 Hercules.3ds AD-4 Skyraider.3ds AH-1W SuperCobra.3ds AM39_Exocet.3ds AS12_missile.3ds B-1B lancer.3ds B-2A Spirit.3ds B-2A_Late Spirit.3ds B-52G EVS Gun Clean.3ds B-52G EVS Gun.3ds B-52G Mk117.3ds B-52G Pre EVS Clean.3ds B-52G Pre EVS.3ds B-52H EVS Gun.3ds B-52H EVS.3ds B-52H No EVS.3ds Bell 204 UH-1C Huey.3ds Bristol Beaufighter VI.3ds Bristol Beaufighter X.3ds Bristol Beaufort Torp.3ds Bristol Beaufort.3ds Bristol Beaufort_AI.3ds Bristol Britannia.3ds Buccaneer S2B black.3ds Buccaneer S2B Gulkf War.3ds Buccaneer S2B LV.3ds Buccaneer S2B Mk 2.3ds Buccaneer S2B RAE.3ds Buccaneer S2B RN.3ds Buccaneer S2B SAAF.3ds C-130 Hercules BA.3ds C-130 Hercules C1.3ds C-130 Hercules Mk3.3ds C-130 Hercules USCG.3ds C-130 Hercules.3ds C-141A Starlifter_drop.3ds C-5 Galaxy camo.3ds C-5 Galaxy gray.3ds C-5 Galaxy white.3ds CA Felixstowe F2A.3ds Canberra B-57B.3ds Canberra B-57B_loaded.3ds Canberra B-57C.3ds Canberra EB-57E.3ds Canberra EB-57E_camo.3ds Canberra PR9.3ds Cessna 170B.3ds Cessna T-50 Bobcat Floats.3ds Cessna T-50 Bobcat Land.3ds CF-100 Canuck.3ds CF-105 Arrow Mk2.3ds Constellation EC121K.3ds Constellation EC121R.3ds Constellation L-049_BOAC.3ds Constellation L-1049C_Luft.3ds Constellation RC-121D.3ds Dassault Mirage IVA.3ds Dassault Mirage IVP.3ds Dassault Mirage IVR.3ds De Havilland Hornet F.3ds De Havilland Hornet FMk1.3ds De Havilland Hornet FMk20.3ds De Havilland Hornet FMk21.3ds De Havilland Hornet FMk3 Racer.3ds De Havilland Hornet FMk3.3ds DH82 Tiger Moth.3ds Draken.3ds Draken_AI.3ds Draken_Austrian.3ds Draken_clean.3ds F8F-1 Bearcat v2.3ds F9F-2 Panther USN.3ds FJ-3 Fury.3ds Fortress IIA B-17E RAF.3ds HC-130 Hercules.3ds HP Victor B1.3ds HP Victor K1_camo.3ds HP Victor K2.3ds HP Victor K2_camo.3ds Hughes MD500 pass.3ds Hughes MD500.3ds Hunter G-PSST Miss Demeanor.3ds Hunter_FGA9.3ds Jaguar DIS.3ds Jaguar Ecuador.3ds Jaguar France Gulf War.3ds Jaguar France.3ds Jaguar GR1.3ds Jaguar GR3.3ds Jaguar Gulf.3ds Jaguar India.3ds Jaguar RAFO.3ds Jaguar RD Ecuador.3ds Jaguar T2.3ds LC-130 Hercules.3ds Lockheed SR-71A.3ds Lun Ekranoplan.3ds Lynx AH7.3ds Lynx AH9.3ds Lynx Naval HAS3.3ds Lynx Naval HMA8.3ds Lynx Naval Mk86.3ds Lynx Naval Mk95.3ds Lynx Naval SH14D.3ds Lysander 1 (Clean).3ds Lysander 1 (Stubs).3ds Lysander 3A (Bombs).3ds Lysander 3A (SD).3ds Lysander TT.3ds Martin XB51.3ds Martin-Baker MB5 racer.3ds Martin-Baker MB5 RAF.3ds Martin-Baker MB5.3ds MIG-21 L.3ds Mirage IV.3ds O-1F Bird Dog.3ds Percival Prentice.3ds PfalzIII.3ds PV-2 Harpoon.3ds RA-5C Vigilante.3ds RAF RE8.3ds RF-8A Crusader.3ds S-55.3ds S-55_nowinch.3ds Saro Skeeter.3ds Se5a.3ds Short SA4 Sperrin.3ds Short SC1.3ds ShortBelfastHL.3ds ShortBelfastRAF.3ds Snipe7F1.3ds SPADXIII.3ds SR-71B Trainer.3ds SU-47 Berkut.3ds Sukhoi_Su-7BMK.3ds Super Etendard Arg.3ds Super Etendard Fr.3ds Swift.3ds Swift_longrange.3ds T-28A Trojan.3ds T-28B Trojan.3ds T-28C Trojan.3ds T-28D Trojan.3ds T-34A Mentor.3ds T-34B Mentor.3ds TSR2.3ds Tucano 2.3ds U-2S non-SS 1.3ds U-2S non-SS 2.3ds U-2S.3ds Vickers Valiant.3ds Vickers Varsity.3ds Viggen_AJ37_BareMetal_Clean.3ds Viggen_AJ37_BareMetal_Loaded.3ds Viggen_AJ37_Camo_Clean.3ds Viggen_AJ37_Camo_Loaded.3ds Viggen_JA37_AirSuperiorityClean.3ds Viggen_JA37_AirSuperiorityLoaded 1.3ds Viggen_JA37_AirSuperiorityLoaded.3ds Viggen_JA37_BluePeter_Clean.3ds Viggen_JA37_BluePeter_Loaded.3ds Westland Scout.3ds Westland Scoutbrown.3ds Westland Scoutgrey.3ds Westland ScoutSS11.3ds Westland Wasp.3ds Westland Waspdutch.3ds Whitley 1.3ds Whitley 2 FS9.3ds Whitley.3ds Whitley1 FS9.3ds A-6A_Intruder A1-H A1-J A7-E-VA37 A7-H AT-6F_interior AT6F Blackburn Firebrand FBNDIV Blackburn Firebrand FBNDV Blackburn Firebrand FBNDVC Blackburn Firebrand FBNDVR Blenheim I Blenheim IV Bulldog IIA Dambuster Dassault Mirage IIIB-2 EF-111A Spark Vark F-111F F-111F_Pave F-111G F-111G_clean F-4 Phantom II F-4B F-4B2 F-4C F-4D F-4E F-4E2 F-4EJ F-4F F-4G F-4J Clean F-4J Marines F-4K G1 F-8 Death Angel F-84F-Thunderstreak F-89B F-89D F-89J F-8E F-8J F-8J_FrenchNavy F-8J_Marines F-8_Crusader F105D_THUNDERCHIEF1 F105F_THUNDERCHIEF F105F_THUNDERCHIEF_SILVER1 F111E_LH F7F-3N_Tigercat F7F-3_Tigercat v2 FB-111 FB-111_tanks Gloster Meteor Fmk8 Halifax3 HalifaxC8 Halton Hampden Hampden_1 Hampden_2 Hampden_Coastal Hawker Sea Fury He115B-1 Hudson_5 Hudson_6 Hunter T-7 BDiam Hunter_F6 139 Hunter_Interior VC_44 Ilyushin Il-28 Beagle Alpha Invader_A Alpha Invader_B FS02 Kawanishi H6K5 Mavis MIG-21 Bis lndian MIG-21 L MiG-21K MiG-23airsuper MiG-23asventral MiG-23clean Mig-23ml1 MiG-23ventral MiG-25 Foxbat Mig29 MYA 4 Bison Mya M-50 Bounder MYA VM-T PBM-3B PBM-3D PBM-5 PBM-5A PBM-5A_Dutch Phantom F3 UK Phantom FGR 1 Phantom FGR2 Phantom GR2 ANIV RF-4C CLEAN RF-4C RF-4E RF-4E2 RF-84F-Thunderstreak Sea Venom FAW21 Sea Venom FAW22 Sea Venom FAW53 Shenyang J6 Stirling Su-15 Su-22M-4 Su-33_navy_flanker Su24mFencer Su27Flanker su35_709_superflanker Sukhoi_Su-7 Swordfish RDSfish ArkRoyal Swordfish RDSfish MAC Swordfish RDSfish RAF Swordfish RDSfish Taranto Tu-16_Badger-A Tu-16_Badger-C Tu-16_Badger-C_clean Tu-16_Badger-G Tu-16_Badger-G_clean TU-22C_Blinder Tu-22M_Backfire1 Tu-28P_Fiddler Tupolev Tu-142 Bear Vampire_T11 Vampire_T11_clean Wellington1 WellingtonCC Yak-28p v2 Edited May 6, 2015 by jeanba 1 Quote
stuntman Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 Neat. That might make me try models conversion..Tk plugin only works in 3ds 2009 right? Quote
jeanba Posted May 6, 2015 Author Posted May 6, 2015 First, we should check further if it is "legal" : look so, some kind of "abandonware" old alphasim models Second most planes are already in SF2, and often "better" Quote
+acesfakia Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 .....I CA NOT UNDERSTUND........ Is in a 3d max fie.....???another type.....??/ is a 3ds max files........all this.......Or....must be change.....in another type...etc......??? Quote
jeanba Posted May 6, 2015 Author Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) They are 3dsmax files, all 2 zip, around 15 Mbytes each Edited May 6, 2015 by jeanba Quote
+Stary Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 yup, also as legal stuff goes from old FS2004/FSX user point of view: back in the days long gone Alphasim models were payware selled through numerous sites but well few years back they started giving them away for free, the older models that were really OLD say Fs2002/CFS2 compatible level so this looks like legit thing Quote
Lazarus1177 Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) Ah yes remember them from the time of Fs9/FSX.Interesting models especially their old F-4s. Edited May 6, 2015 by Lazarus1177 Quote
+ravenclaw_007 Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 do you have a link to the side with the 3ds models , all i could find are models for FS9 , CFS2 , FSX or FS02 Quote
jeanba Posted May 6, 2015 Author Posted May 6, 2015 http://www.mediafire.com/download/t883na7l7i9ddz8/ALPHASIM+3ds+models.7z http://www.mediafire.com/download/a5519bdr4fbr0pe/ALPHASIM+3ds+models+2nd+batch.7z Quote
+RAVEN Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 Hope someome has a lot of freetime, cause these will be almost as much work as sarting from scrach. If it's one we already have, i wouldn't bother. Quote
+RAVEN Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 I went through the list and there are a few that interest me, float planes and the Swordfish. Will look some more at them, I'm thinking Ground AC for some. @ Wrench. Make a list if your interested in any for ground use. If you have time? ;) Quote
Wrench Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 you mean 'parked statics'?? I'll look it over .. sometimes, when plotter correctly, they won't interfere with the game-generated parked birds. 1 Quote
+russouk2004 Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 I found these a while back...they are free models that are ex alphasim before they went as Virtavia ive got the notes somewhere there are a few good ones in the pack but most need loads of correctional work.. here are some ok ish ones and some oddities.... 2 Quote
+russouk2004 Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) Lately we see a plethora of franken or semi-franken planes, with a lot of energy and skills involved. But even with the best modding talents, all these models suffer, to some greater or smaller extent, from the flaws and drawbacks due to the use of Franken methods. Already in 2009, Phil from Alphasim gave authorization to export its freeware titles to other games, on the condition that they remain free (http://www.armaholic.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=6304). Quote Hi, you can port our freeware titles over to other games, it's perfectly ok as long as you do not try to sell them. Best regards, Phil AlphaSim Ltd Therefore here's a first batch of models ever released as freeware by Alphasim (no less than 126 models/sub models for the Part 1 and 181 models/submodels for the Part 2, mostly from the Virtavia directory, including the so called "really old models" that are included there ...and happen to be perfect for Il2 exporting, and the Sea Venoms models that for some reason do not appear in the Virtavia directory although they were released as freeware in the past) I'll upload the rest of the models at a later date, after completing their extraction. I've these models on mediafire, so modders can use them if they wish. With a huge thanks to Phil from Aviasim! Here's the link and the list of these models: http://www.mediafire.com/download/t883na7l7i9ddz8/ALPHASIM+3ds+models.7z update April 12th: Freeware Alphasim extracted 3ds models Part 2 http://www.mediafire.com/download/a5519bdr4fbr0pe/ALPHASIM+3ds+models+2nd+batch.7z Edited May 6, 2015 by russouk2004 Quote
Wrench Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 I wonder who he could have possibly been talking about!!! OTH, their newer stuff is pretty good. --- Raven, that Mavis is exactly what I'm looking for , for use parked on the PTO maps. The Mariner looks good too, but I'd rather have a PBY (but, hey, I can find uses for damn near anything!!) russ, I'm trying to figure out the twin-engine floatplane... He-115?? the Beaufighter looks like at late mk 6 or early mk.10...something Daniel had planned, but has been 'overcome by events'. we could use new Beauforts ... it's just a pity they DO need so much work to get into SF2. a LOT of very useful stuff there Quote
+Veltro2k Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 My two cents...tried with other free models that where made available before...a lot of time parts don't line up, gaps that show as towlines in the game and are hard to find, no animation have to be remapped and skinned, faces that show half on one side and half on the other side ..at the end you get frustrated and say F-it let me start from scratch...in my book best use for these is reference....of course that brings out that old reverse engineering demon again Quote
+daddyairplanes Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Would be nice if models that can replace DAT birds go further. Caspian Sea Monster would be interesting to see too...... Quote
Fubar512 Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 I looked into the (then) Alphasim freeware models back in 2008 and 2009, and found most of them to be quite low-poly. In fact, I recall getting another modeler involved in this (IIRC, it was Fastcargo), and he came to the same conclusion, that they were potentially more work to finish, then if one had built them from scratch. The list, though, was no where near as long back then, as all they had for freeware models were the F-86 and possibly the F-117. They also offered a (finished) Kuznetsov and Su-33 model combo for FS2004. We do have Marcelo's Kuznetsov model that will soon be out, as soon as it escapes from the paint shop. Quote
+RAVEN Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Wrench The Mavis is the first thing I looked at. As far as a PBY, mine are on hold until I'm done with the ?-??. :) Quote
+sophocles Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 My 2cents gentlemen; you really don't want to go down that road ..even though most of these models are very good they are very dated construction-wise; the corrections that have to be made..the re-mapping,,the animations..the re-adjustment of pivots..the flipping of polys .. personally i figure it'd take more time to fix these than to model from scratch..you'd best be off starting over .. 1 Quote
+RAVEN Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Mostly I'd agree that their more work then their worth, but for a static AC some of them are not too bad. And as a Reference their a gold mine. Quote
jeanba Posted May 7, 2015 Author Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) Lately we see a plethora of franken or semi-franken planes, with a lot of energy and skills involved. But even with the best modding talents, all these models suffer, to some greater or smaller extent, from the flaws and drawbacks due to the use of Franken methods. Already in 2009, Phil from Alphasim gave authorization to export its freeware titles to other games, on the condition that they remain free (http://www.armaholic.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=6304). Quote Therefore here's a first batch of models ever released as freeware by Alphasim (no less than 126 models/sub models for the Part 1 and 181 models/submodels for the Part 2, mostly from the Virtavia directory, including the so called "really old models" that are included there ...and happen to be perfect for Il2 exporting, and the Sea Venoms models that for some reason do not appear in the Virtavia directory although they were released as freeware in the past) I'll upload the rest of the models at a later date, after completing their extraction. I've these models on mediafire, so modders can use them if they wish. With a huge thanks to Phil from Aviasim! Here's the link and the list of these models: http://www.mediafire.com/download/t883na7l7i9ddz8/ALPHASIM+3ds+models.7z update April 12th: Freeware Alphasim extracted 3ds models Part 2 http://www.mediafire.com/download/a5519bdr4fbr0pe/ALPHASIM+3ds+models+2nd+batch.7zHi, you can port our freeware titles over to other games, it's perfectly ok as long as you do not try to sell them. Best regards, Phil AlphaSim Ltd Dreamk made a lot of models for Il2 and I would say that he is basically right : remember that a lot of models are hasty conversions of freeware meshes, that we do not usually find on combatace ;) ). And on combatace, some models are good but old and start to show their age. I have in mind the TMF Mirage IIIE cockpit for instance : very accurate but according to today's standards, it would require more polygons. See what was done for the super-etendard too. Anyway, they have the same problems for il2 mods : 1% good models, 19% models are "acceptable", and 80% of bad mods (including mines). We can also tell the same thing about FSX. The point is when somebody points this out, the 1% good modders feel offended and they temselves forget the 99% ugly mods. Edited May 7, 2015 by jeanba 2 Quote
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