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Love the Zweibrücken bird........  Unlike this guy, whose last words were probably "What The @#$%^"?

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4 hours ago, Nightshade/PR said:

Love the Zweibrücken bird........  Unlike this guy, whose last words were probably "What The @#$%^"?

thank you, although home girl there is probably about to experience less of a PITA than i had doing the intake lip marks for the 1990 boss birds

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From the small coastal country of Portugal....

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Battle of Khafji

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MiG-21M and MA, hope the censors are ok with this...

 

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2 hours ago, FLOGGER23 said:

MiG-21M ...............

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Some remarks. The colors of east german MiG-21M is close to reality. Good job. The tactical number is to small in size, must be a little bit bigger.

Then the plane is not a MiG-21M, it's a MiG-21MF. This screenshot shows the outer differences between M and MF:

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The plane with camo is the MF. It has a mirror on top of cockpit and small protection plates under the auxillary air intakes. The M has no mirror and was delivered without protection plates. The task of the protection plates is to protect the auxillary air intake from gun smoke, which can cause engine stall. Thatswhy this plates were fitted later during planes overhaul schemes. A refit with mirror on cockpit roof was very rare.

MiG-21M was delivered in all metallic skin and got later camo. The MF was mostly delivered with camo. In east german service MF was translated with "Mit Farbe", what means "With Paint".

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14 minutes ago, Gepard said:

Some remarks. The colors of east german MiG-21M is close to reality. Good job. The tactical number is to small in size, must be a little bit bigger.

Then the plane is not a MiG-21M, it's a MiG-21MF. This screenshot shows the outer differences between M and MF:

The plane with camo is the MF. It has a mirror on top of cockpit and small protection plates under the auxillary air intakes. The M has no mirror and was delivered without protection plates. The task of the protection plates is to protect the auxillary air intake from gun smoke, which can cause engine stall. Thatswhy this plates were fitted later during planes overhaul schemes. A refit with mirror on cockpit roof was very rare.

MiG-21M was delivered in all metallic skin and got later camo. The MF was mostly delivered with camo. In east german service MF was translated with "Mit Farbe", what means "With Paint".

 

Thank you for that input, Gepard, good stuff coming from someone who was there!

With the permission of the admins for the pics,  they can be removed later, I got the M bort records from http://www.forgottenjets.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/ and based on it, I saw some pictures showing the gun blast panels and rearview mirror base (hmm, odd), perhaps they were retrofitted after some overhauls?

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What I can do, of course, is to make early/late versions to cover those plane timelines maybe?

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41 minutes ago, FLOGGER23 said:

Thank you for that input, Gepard, good stuff coming from someone who was there!

With the permission of the admins for the pics,  they can be removed later, I got the M bort records from http://www.forgottenjets.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/ and based on it, I saw some pictures showing the gun blast panels and rearview mirror base (hmm, odd), perhaps they were retrofitted after some overhauls?

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The MiG-21M got a second life as recon bird, in the East German Air Force (LSK). For that task the planes with the best condition were selected and got a midlife update end 1980th. They got self made recon pods, which based on UB-16 rocket pods. Then they got the mirror base, but no mirror on the roof. Then it was intended to include the R-60 (AA-8) missile in the weapon system and to replace the old R-11F-300 by the R-13F-300 engine. But this was planed for the early 1990th ....

The protection plates were refitted to all gun armed MiG-21. Even old and outdated MiG-21PFM (our designation was MiG-21SPS-K)) got this plates.

Here a MiG-21M as it was delivered:

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39 minutes ago, Gepard said:

The MiG-21M got a second life as recon bird, in the East German Air Force (LSK). For that task the planes with the best condition were selected and got a midlife update end 1980th. They got self made recon pods, which based on UB-16 rocket pods. Then they got the mirror base, but no mirror on the roof. Then it was intended to include the R-60 (AA-8) missile in the weapon system and to replace the old R-11F-300 by the R-13F-300 engine. But this was planed for the early 1990th ....

The protection plates were refitted to all gun armed MiG-21. Even old and outdated MiG-21PFM (our designation was MiG-21SPS-K)) got this plates.

Noted! Thanks!

Now, on the SPS's

I understand some were wire to shoot R-60s as this one... (May need the gun blast panels, to be added  later)

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(yes, I need to remove the rearview mirror)

 

Now, the regular SPS's

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Also, for the PF, I also read they were capable of using the Monsun dual Atoll rails, were they not?

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Keep in mind, that all is a huge ongoing WIP 

Any advice you can give me will be beneficial to this project...

Thanks again!

 

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12 hours ago, FLOGGER23 said:

Also, for the PF, I also read they were capable of using the Monsun dual Atoll rails, were they not?

I am sure Gepard knows better, but from what I have read, the Monsun dual rails were used on the PFM, not the PF and in Poland and in the DDR only.

Oddly enough, here is a picture of what looks to me like a DDR MiG-21PF (judging by what appears to me as a PF forward-hinged, single-piece canopy and the narrower PF vertical tail) with the Monsun dual rail, that I came across.

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Mandatory screenshot - we also had MiG-21Ms :biggrin:, here in camo shortly before retirement.

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Perhaps the admin could move all posts relating to MiG-21 in a separate topic.

There is a confusion with MiG-21PFM vs PF designation. When the MiG-21PF was delivered it was not able to carry the Monsun. After an midlife update it got the capability to carry Monsun twin rails. The modified planes were in the East German Air Force (LSK) called MiG-21PFM. Later the soviets delivered their own MiG-21PFM, what posed designation problems in the LSK. The same designation for different versions of the MiG-21.  Thatswhy the soviet MiG-21PFM was called MiG-21SPS in east german service.

To make it short. Early MiG-21PF had had no protection plates and were unable to carry Monsun. Modified MiG-21PF (PFM in east german designation) had protection plates and could carry Monsun rails. The last LSK MiG-21PFM was phased out in 1987. In the early years the planes were all metallic, from end 1970th they got camo.

MiG-21PFM (MiG-21SPS) had initially only single launch rails, and were updated to carry Monsun in mid/late 1970th. Mid 1980th they got the ability to use R-60 (AA-8) missiles.

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Agreed Gepard, it's becoming too much of a WIP thread than a screenshot thread

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I don't know how to move posts to another threats. Sorry, maybe @Wrench knows how to do it.

 

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Sorry, maybe @Wrench knows how to do it.

Neither do I !! Every time I've tried, I've broken the post!! (but I did enjoy them; I learned something about Fishbeds!)

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when taking a break isnt really taking a break.....

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Turkish Naval Forces Sea Wolf Exercise 2

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I don't know ... I just don't know. It's all a Mystery to me!!

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(no need to push ... I know where the door is ...:haha:

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