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i´m working since quite some time on the F-4F cockpits , my biggest problem is that i dont get any flight manual for the Peace Rhine and ICE versions , now i got some pictures from a F-4F Peace Rhine cockpit and was able to almost finish it i still have to do some animations and small items that are missing

so i have now the early F-4F cockpit ( from 1973 onward ) and the F-4F Peace Rhine cockpit ( from 1985 onward ) next will be the ICE cockpit 

the ICE cockpit has a more advanced IFF control panel and a digital fuel quantity indicator and the 4 fuselage weaponstations for the AIM-120  , so still a lot of work

 

F-4F cockpit 1973

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the F-4F Peace Rhine is a big upgrade compare to the early F-4F cockpit , it has the DSCG radar with CCIP , the Shoot Lights and a more modern UHF control panel and the Weapons Panel that is used on the F-4E , one thing i only found on the Peace Rhine and the ICE version is the NBC Protection Blower no other F-4 version has that , so the german pilots hat some protection / filter system in case of a nuclear contamination

F-4F Peace Rhine cockpit

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this are pictures from the NBC Protection assembly and a NBC filter used by the Luftwaffe , dont know if that is the " NBC Protection Blower "

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in the top picture i found an error , sombody used the NBC Protection Battery label instead of the NBC Protection BLower one , the picture below is from a F_4F at the JG74 airbase at Neuburg/Donau and shows the correct labeling

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with the Peace Rhine upgrade the F-4F got a special feature regarding the use of the AIM-9 Sidewinder , the pilot could chose between the SEAM (Sidewinder Extended Acquisition Mode) or SLAVE mode 

the SEAM (Sidewinder Extended Acquisition Mode) is a target acquisition mode for the AIM-9 Sidewinder missile that allows the seeker head to scan a larger area (often a grid pattern) instead of targeting a single point. This enables the missile to locate and acquire targets with a heat source (aircraft), even if they are not directly in the nose. This increases the probability of a hit by allowing radar or helmet sights to pre-initialize the missile or for it to search for targets independently

the "Sidewinder Slave Mode" usually refers to the AIM-9 Sidewinder air-to-air missile, where a radar or helmet-mounted display acquires (locks) the target, and the missile is then guided to that radar track to "slave" the seeker—a form of radar-assisted target acquisition before the missile's infrared seeker takes over or the missile fires to track the target, often in conjunction with the helmet-mounted display (HMD). There is also an interpretation as a vehicle function (Sidewinder Mode) with all-wheel steering for diagonal driving, but the context strongly suggests the missile.

to get the SEAM and Slave lights working and "simulate" the functions i use the SEAM light duringradar search operation , you will get the typicall sidewinder growl sound and the Shoot light will show you if you are in range to fire the missile you will not get the yellow lock on in the HUD , for the SLAVE light i use the Radar Boresight this way you get the Lock on in the HUD the sidewinder growl sound and in the radar scope the VC display

for now the SEAM and SLAVE mode will only work with the AIM-9L , i dont think that the AIM-9B would support this function

 

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if anybody has abetter idea how to simmulate this functions please let me know

 

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If I didn't know those were in game shots, I'd have thought they were real photos. Man, you REALLY deserve a statue!!!

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Outstanding work with that Cockpit! 😮😮😮😮😮😮

Unbelievable that this from SF2. If you'd say this is from DCS, I would instantly believe it. 

@Erik we seriously need a WOW-Emoji for reactions inside threads!

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@ravenclaw_007 there isnt an F-4F ICE sitting in a museum somewhere in Germany? i would think you should be able to talk your way into getting into a cockpit and are abit closer than the rest of us

@ValAstur   theres        :shok:shock and :yikes:yikes. but im suprised there doenst seem to be a wow in there

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3 hours ago, daddyairplanes said:

@ravenclaw_007 there isnt an F-4F ICE sitting in a museum somewhere in Germany? i would think you should be able to talk your way into getting into a cockpit and are abit closer than the rest of us

dont you worry , i got what i need to finish the ICE cockpit

 

new Radar Altimeter i have to make

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new IFF Control Panel 

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and the new RWR Control Panel , i´m afraid there is not much that i can bring to life here , below the RWR Control Panel you can see the Digital Fuel Quantity Inticator and left of that is a small recangle light that would be the VOR light i have to add , the rest will be like on the Peace Rhine cockpit

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aaahhh yap the RWR display is a special case , all pictures i have show the old V36 RWR display even in the ICE , but now i found this 2 pictures showing the IP1310 RWR display so i will add this one to my ICE cockpit

i just wonder when did the Luftwaffe change to the more modern RWR display version , gues we will never know

rear ICE cockpit with the V36 RWR display

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this are the only 2 pictures i found showing the IP1310 RWR display in the front and rear cockpit

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