+Soulfreak 6,524 Posted June 5, 2013 Hello CA Members & Admins! I think it´s slowly getting time to reorganize the SF2 download section. There are so many files inside, that a search for specific files takes very long. Wouldn´t it make sense to reorganize the SF2 download sction in a way the SF1 download section is? Add subcategories for skins / aircrafts? 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+paulopanz 2,876 Posted June 5, 2013 A very good idea for me. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Stary 2,427 Posted June 5, 2013 Dave stated once loong time ago it's really PITA to do so, but if we'll behave gently, the powers that be might reconsider this I hope 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Soulfreak 6,524 Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) Dave stated once loong time ago it's really PITA to do so, but if we'll behave gently, the powers that be might reconsider this I hope Yes i know., i was the guy who made the suggestion that long time ago. But as longer we wait, the more files we got and as much time the reorganisation will take. And we really need a better structure for the SF2 DL section. That is the part where most of the files will uploaded in the future.... The more files in the SF2 section, the more harder to find specific files.... Edited June 5, 2013 by Soulfreak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Gunrunner 314 Posted June 5, 2013 Or at least they should fix the damn search "feature" that ignores/misinterpret dashes, meaning that searching for "f-16" for instance returns nothing, on a site focused on military aviation, it is a vital part of the forum search engine (and using google is not really an alternative). If that was done AND modders all agreed on a common taxonomy for their uploads (some use only "viper" for their F-16 file, others just "falcon", others "F-16", some "F16" or a combination of those, it makes finding everything easily a mess, even using Google), it would made search actually usable. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spool 312 Posted June 5, 2013 I totally agree, would be a very useful thing. good idea! Hi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+acesfakia 1,199 Posted June 5, 2013 I agree too.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+daddyairplanes 10,253 Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) Agreed also. With another upgrade in progress this would be a good time for it. The two section that need it the most are the aircraft and skins sections, followed possibly by objects broken into ground and ships. Edited June 5, 2013 by daddyairplanes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Stary 2,427 Posted June 5, 2013 I think Gunrunner hit the nail on the head with the search engine's limitations, that alone would be of great help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+whiteknight06604 934 Posted June 5, 2013 gunrunner is right. the search engine as it stands is one step above useless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ValAstur 1,294 Posted June 5, 2013 Dave stated once loong time ago it's really PITA to do so, but if we'll behave gently, the powers that be might reconsider this I hope So say we all! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigBuster 2,884 Posted June 5, 2013 Seem to remember this caused some major problems last time - is anyone volunteering to help sort this out btw ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dave 2,322 Posted June 5, 2013 Crashed the server last time ring a bell? Took Erik weeks to sort it out and even longer to stop being pissed at me. Also Erik is still recovering from almost dying last year, he has gone in for several more surgeries and one as recent as March IIRC. When he is up and around, its only for short periods of time. So I am not going to attempt to rearrange the files while he isnt 100%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MigBuster 2,884 Posted June 5, 2013 **** - had no idea - will PM him a message Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+daddyairplanes 10,253 Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) Took Erik weeks to sort it out and even longer to stop being pissed at me. you were a NCO weren't you? if some ones not pissed you're not doing it right! still I guess that kinda answers most of that. may I ask for all of us what would be required (besides sorting the files of course) to make that happen? not to pester about doing it, but at least so the folks at home have a better answer than no time no money too hard. after all Dave you're not TK. Edited June 5, 2013 by daddyairplanes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Gunrunner 314 Posted June 5, 2013 In that case the next best thing would be fixing the search... I guess the lP Board licence comes with a certain amount of tech and bug support, and in my book the forum search behavior when it comes to downloads IS a bug (if only because it works for the other searches), and that's the whole reason you pay for a licence. That would make it relatively safe if Erik didn't feel like messing with the code. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Stary 2,427 Posted June 5, 2013 Sorry Dave, I wasn't aware of that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Erik 1,812 Posted June 6, 2013 I hear you guys and I am willing to do whatever it takes to put the SF2 stuff into some type of organizational state but I can't do it alone. So I would need someone like Dave to do all the moving etc. I can create the structure if I have one to create and I can make sure everything is working prior to moving anything but that would be my limit right now. I have some immediate things to handle concerning the boards which is to get them upgraded and return our functionality to those that use Microsoft products, (Internet Explorer 10, Hotmail, etc) After that I would be down for putting some time into the download section organizational issues. As for the search engine, it's working as designed. For most it's knowing how to use it that makes the thing useless. This is especially true when using a dash, like appear in our model numbers (F-111, P-51) etc. Let's take a common example like I want to find all the variations of the F-35 so someone would type F-35 into the search box, right? I would it's intuitive, it's the model number. To the search engine what you just asked it was find everything that has an "F" in title/content but don't find things that have a "35" in it. (F exclude "minus sign/dash" 35) So if you want to find F-35s on our search engine you have to type in F+35 or (F+35) or F35 but not F-35. It's ass backwards but the minus sign and plus sign have a distinct function, even on Google. Here it's held to be more exact because we have less content and less fuzzy logic running the search engine. I hope that helps. Erik 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usafphantom2 19 Posted June 6, 2013 Get Well soon buddy,Best Wishes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench 9,858 Posted June 6, 2013 to do it, one needs to be Admin or Staff (moderators) with rights to do so; similar to what I did when Erik gave us the WW2 downloads section. And believe me, that took me 3 days to get stuff transferred over, and I still think I may have missed an upload or three. I agree it DOES need to be done, but I for one won't put that extra load on The Boss. Hopefully, at a future date we can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+whiteknight06604 934 Posted June 6, 2013 I think the Search engine just got an educational upgrade. thanks for the tip I had no idea. Erik hope your on the road to better health I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. maybe the reorganization of the downloads can be tied to a fundraising effort? maybe after a certain goal is reached the work could happen. That is if the other factors are resolved. perhapse have the majority go to the site but maybe reserve some to "reward" whoever gets stuck doing the heavy lifting on the project. Case of beer,fleshlight whatever..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Soulfreak 6,524 Posted June 6, 2013 I hear you guys and I am willing to do whatever it takes to put the SF2 stuff into some type of organizational state but I can't do it alone. So I would need someone like Dave to do all the moving etc. I can create the structure if I have one to create and I can make sure everything is working prior to moving anything but that would be my limit right now. I have some immediate things to handle concerning the boards which is to get them upgraded and return our functionality to those that use Microsoft products, (Internet Explorer 10, Hotmail, etc) After that I would be down for putting some time into the download section organizational issues. As for the search engine, it's working as designed. For most it's knowing how to use it that makes the thing useless. This is especially true when using a dash, like appear in our model numbers (F-111, P-51) etc. Let's take a common example like I want to find all the variations of the F-35 so someone would type F-35 into the search box, right? I would it's intuitive, it's the model number. To the search engine what you just asked it was find everything that has an "F" in title/content but don't find things that have a "35" in it. (F exclude "minus sign/dash" 35) So if you want to find F-35s on our search engine you have to type in F+35 or (F+35) or F35 but not F-35. It's ass backwards but the minus sign and plus sign have a distinct function, even on Google. Here it's held to be more exact because we have less content and less fuzzy logic running the search engine. I hope that helps. Erik Get well soon Erik! If you need help, i´ll be there! ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
